Ok, it does not matter where iam work, gym, pub or out in the fresh air but i have a problem what ever the weather is it could be freezing or i could be cooking in the sauna. My hands are always cold as are my feet but the rest of me could be dripping wet with sweat especially if iam on the treadmill. Firstly yes i have been to the doctor but not much luck there, you seem fine is the answer i got back but obviously somethings not quite right somewhere. Its made worst by the fact that my armpits are always sweating and no i dont stink before anyone asks, well i dont think so anyway.Is this bad circulation or two seperate things, are there suppliments you can take for either or do you think it is to do with my glands at this moment its pissing me off big time and i could do with a second appinion does anyone else suffer with either one of these and if so any answers or ideas will be appreciated
ps yes i do use a deodrant
Posted by: hardasnails1973
Check with medical dr . It could be hormonal or might be missing some essential nutrients, or numerous other causes. Some thing called raynauld's syndrome you might want to check out. You are experincing symptoms of something that could be not allowing circulation to your peripheral features Do you have blood sugar levels imbalances ? If you are not getting circualtion to extremities then you may not be getting circulation down stairs as well. I had same thing and it turned out to be little low on b-12 and folate, b6> How are your sleep patterns ? How late on computer at night time. Are you extra stress? These are factors to concider.
Posted by: MACCA
Thanks for such a quick reply hardasnails1973 yes i do need to get back and see a different doctor thats for sure, sleepwise no probs never stressed to laid back or so my missus says, blood suger levels what other symtoms would that cause?
Posted by: hardasnails1973
Blood sugar fluctations could cause craving for carbs, tired after eating a large meal, cloudy thinking, memory impairment. Look up symptoms diabetes. Alot of weight lifters experience them, but you may not ever get them to be full blown type 2 diabetes however due to the constant fluctuations of food, caloires and carbs we are exposing our self to a condition known as insulin resistance which could cause lack of peripheral ciruculation. Even people on low carb diets diabetes is hidding becuase since being low carb there insulin levels never get spiked and with insulin resistance one can have normal gluclose however body may be producing too much insulin or be producing insulin but the body is not recognizing it so pancrease puts out more then usual and over time pancrease eventually stops producing. Look up metabolic sydrome or syndrome X for more information. Consult medical professional as well and have them treat the cause not symptoms..
Posted by: hardasnails1973
Raynaulds syndrome
IF YOUR FINGERS and toes tingle and grow numb the minute they're exposed to the cold, it may not be just poor circulation. You may have Raynaud's syndrome, a circulatory disorder that causes the small arteries of the extremities to spasm and constrict. Your fingers, deprived of blood, grow pale and may even acquire a bluish tinge, and then get red when circulation returns and the blood rushes back.
Raynaud's syndrome is thought to be quite common, particularly among women, though there are no actual tallies. Many people who have it probably don't believe it's serious enough to discuss with a doctor, but it can be very painful, particularly in the advanced stages, when poor blood supply can cause lasting damage to the sense of touch. I've had patients who, even suffering from relatively mild cases, felt that their lives were terribly disrupted by the problem.
There are conventional medical approaches to Raynaud's: Calcium channel blockers have been used to dilate the blood vessels in seriously affected patients. This usually won't give complete relief but it can help. Unfortunately, these medications can have side effects and are not always effective. There are some excellent natural therapies I recommend that have proven extremely effective for a number of my patients.
A combination of natural ingredients--magnesium, a mineral, combined with taurine, an amino acid--can be very effective, even in people who have had Raynaud's for a long time.
Vitamin E taken as a supplement helps to decrease the circulatory spasms that cause Raynaud's. It's also extremely helpful as a topical ointment on fingers and toes that become ulcerated due to insufficient blood supply.
Fish oils (the omega-3s) are also recommended because they improve tolerance to cold exposure and delay spasm of the blood vessels.
Be sure that you're getting adequate iron in your diet. Lack of iron can cause anemia, which will increase your sensitivity to cold. Foods that are rich in iron include fish, lean red meat, poultry, lentils, and leafy green vegetables.
There are two particularly effective and simple methods to prevent spasms. One, devised by a dermatologist in Vermont, involves twirling the arms to stimulate circulation. Like a softball pitcher, you swing your arm down behind your body and then upward in front of you, at about eighty twirls a minute. This exercise forces blood to the fingers through both gravitational and centrifugal force, and is effective in warming up chilled hands.
Another method, devised by U.S. Army researchers in Alaska, works by conditioning the hands to counter the cold spasm reflex. You soak your hands in warm water for three to five minutes, in a room where the temperature is comfortable. Next, you go into a freezing room and soak your hands in warm water once again, this time for ten minutes. The cold temperature would normally cause your arteries to constrict, but the warm water keeps them open. Eventually, they will remain open even without warm water. In the army experiments involving 150 people, this procedure was repeated three to six times every other day. After fifty-four treatments, hands were found to be seven degrees warmer in the cold.
In addition to regularly practicing these exercises, avoid anything that hampers your circulation and makes you vulnerable to chill:
Do not smoke, because nicotine causes vasospasm and encourages plaque to form in your arteries, slowing circulation.
Do not drink alcohol because though it may seem to make you warm, it actually lowers your body temperature.
Do not drink coffee or drinks with caffeine, because they constrict blood vessels.
Drink lots of fluids and eat hot, regular meals to keep off the chill.
Wear mittens instead of gloves, because mittens trap the heat of your hands. Wear them any time your hands will be exposed to cold: when shopping in the frozen food section, when grasping a cold steering wheel, and so on.
Dress in loose rather than constricting clothes, layered for warmth. Wear fabrics that will draw away perspiration, keeping you drier and warmer, and use foot powder to keep your feet dry and warm.
NATURAL PRESCRIPTION FOR RAYNAUD'S SYNDROME
Use the warm water and arm twirling techniques described above to enhance circulation and prevent spasms.
Avoid smoking, alcohol, and caffeine; all will constrict the blood vessels and promote spasm.
Dress to ward off cold and perspiration. See the list of tips above.
Eat hot, regular meals.
Ingest adequate iron by eating fish, poultry, lean red meat, lentils, and green leafy vegetables. Do not take iron supplements unless indicated by blood testing.
IN ADDITION TO YOUR DAILY SUPPLEMENTS, TAKE:
Magnesium with taurine in the following amounts: magnesium, 200 mg. three times daily, and taurine, 250 mg. three times daily, during the cold season, if no relief after four weeks, discontinue use.
Vitamin E: 400 I.U, daily
Fish oils: 1,000 mg. three times daily.
When you squeeze your toenail or fingernail hard it turns white then when you release it should quickly turn red again, try this if it takes time to refill then you have bad circulation.
Posted by: MACCA
OK, firstly thanks hardasnails1973 for so much good feedback.The grow pale, bluish tinge and then go red when circulation comes back is spot on.In the winter i have a ten minute cycle ride home and if my hands get the slightest damp all my fingers lock up and i can not straighten them,the pain could almost make me cry, once indoors which is a big problem to get the key in the lock i put my hands in warm water and then i can straighten my fingers out.I suppose i am a typical bloke and dont go to the doctors whan you should but when you get told everythings fine you just shrug it off.I am at work at the moment so i will get on the internet and have a look at the Raynaulds syndrome write ups many thanks.
Posted by: hardasnails1973
no problem, might want to check for hidden anemias b-12, folic acid, iron, copper, selenium as well. just make sure you are properly supported with good mineral base and you will be fine. For iron anemia check ferritin levels, copper levels ceruoplasm, folic acid mch and other indicators under CBC
Posted by: MACCA
HARDASNAILS1973 just been reading up on a few sites and there are a few things about vibration white finger, this is something where i work that crops up a lot, as over the years we have used a lot of air tools for chiseling, cleaning metal products, these tools vibrated like hell and we used them for many hours of the day as this was before the whole vibration white finger came to light, nowadays we are only allowed to use these tools for a small amount of time. We use to have on site assessments to see if any guys had it and if you had signs of it you were monitered over time to see if it got any worse but the problem i have is that i only get it when my hands get cold or damp?????
Posted by: hardasnails1973
are you around alot of heavy metals and enviromental toxins you inhale. This could also affect you since working around machinery. One friend had doctors baffled and when I just asked her a simple queation where she worked and it was a refinery where she was inhaling toxins over any years accumlating in her body giving her all kind of crazy symptoms..So work enviromnent would be a good think to start with..
Posted by: MACCA
Yes for the last 19/20 years i have been working inside a workshop where we repair heavy rollingstock, trains that is, lathes are going,welding,burning, grinding of all the metal components we have very strict guidelines for smoke dust etc but it wasnt always like this.
Posted by: MACCA
Do you think the best and first thing i should get checked out is my blood???
Posted by: hardasnails1973
Blood tests are worthless for enviormental detoxins unless exposure was with in 24-72 hours or there is a constant exposure so in your case it may be viable, other wise hair analysis woud be mor appropiate and they are used by hospitals to very prolong toxic exposure. Some thing is leading me possible towards lead over exposure, but again this is only speculation and should be followed up with clincial examination. i had arsenic toxicity and I had blue silver tinted finger nails untill I clear it from my system, cold hands and feet as well. and when we did a DMSA challenge Arsenic poped up we pinpointed the cause to chicken because arsenic is in the feed they give the chickens. I was testing high because my liver detoxification was sluggish and could not expell it as optimal rate. Over time it build up. People may not feel effects untill 5-10 years after daily exposures. I have spoken to alot of worlds top drs on heavy metals and it is highly rampant and rarely ever looked into as possible cause..
Posted by: Trouble
Before you go recommending environmental toxins as causative, I would look to a more simple answer. That the blood supply dilation reaction is impaired (NOS initiation by insulin). That free radicals short circuit this reaction. Your best bet is to work on insulin management - make sure that your diet isn't making this issue worse. Thermal sensing in peripheral tissue also regulates vasodilation and constriction. Insulin insensitivity, often at levels that cannot be accurately measured, has been shown to affect young adults (early 20s), reducing vein and arterial elastic response by more than 45%. Moreover, in the insulin insensitive individual, response to insulin may be counterintuitive, that is, it cases vasoconstriction via an inflammatory response.
Therefore, diet and use of supplements that help restore insulin insenitivity, coupled with use of taurine for your vibration damaged nerve endings (more probable than metal cytotoxicity) will be helpful in addressing your peripheral circulation issues.
Your "white finger" issue is most likely impaired circulation. I would consider use of horse chestnut extract to help promote improved function in vein directional valves that promote directional flow in legs and arms. You can purchase creams that can be used in conjunction with oral horse chestnut supplements, that locally increase herbal efficacy.
You may want to look into arginine creams during the coldest weather, as they have been shown to temporarily reverse vasoconstriction in hands and feet, and cause cold damage to these tissues.
If you do have metal toxicity, make sure you use magnesium (citrate, gluconate or malate) to help your body displace and transport these toxins to liver and kidney for diposal. You can ask your physican to have nail and hair samples tested for metal toxicity before you jump to conclusion on their effect on your health. I would be more concerned about particulate irritants being an issue; you may want to be checked for pulmonary health.
