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Interesting steroid reads


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Posted by: Hlanderr

I am going to write a term paper on some roids!

The topic is something controversial, which clearly has different standpoints in our society. Steroids, is a clear choice for me. A year ago today, I was disgusted by steroids, partially because I didn't know a thing about them, aside from the propaganda that the media portrays to youth in America.

This really isn't an informational topic, but rather a discussional topic. I plan on discussing why Steroids were banned (politics, the priority in its ban was not safety by far), the most common cycle and it's REAL side effects, and contradicting information that would help argue against the common generalities about steroids.

Information like this is a bit hard to find, as when I search I get too many information sites. I have some great sources (information sources, hahah) from this site with some interesting reads that have some great points in them, such as a narrative by a "steroid", and others.

If there are any of those hard to find interesting steroids reads where they aren't really informative, but rather discussional, please share.... I'm having a bit of a hard time finding them and a few from this site are really worth digging at.

Thanks



Posted by: Mudge

Pretty much anything and everything the media has put out has been both discussional and missinformative. Not sure where you are finding helpful things but if you are reading pubmed, you aren't going to find discussional.

Do you not already have a stance from which to discuss the topic in your own paper? Are you looking to include statistical information or something along those lines, that you would hope to find in such an article?

Hard to find factual data these days, in any 'article.' The media is about as accurate as the movies in relaying data to the people. All too often it seems if you really know whats going on, you know that at best the media relays data to the end user in a way that may have been accurate at one point, but the words have been rearranged to make them riddled with mistakes at best.

The only way to know and understand, is to know and understand. Digesting something that someone else ate, is not a good way to go about it IMO if this is a serious paper and not just a Jr. high school project for 5% of your grade.

If as an interviewer you sit down and talk to someone about solid fuel rocket science for an hour, are you going to be able to tell me about solid fuel rocket science and make me understand it? If you are a genius of geniuses perhaps, but most likely you will get about 5% of it right, have 10% of it half way right, and completely screw up the rest of it.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Pretty much anything and everything the media has put out has been both discussional and missinformative. Not sure where you are finding helpful things but if you are reading pubmed, you aren't going to find discussional.

Do you not already have a stance from which to discuss the topic in your own paper? Are you looking to include statistical information or something along those lines, that you would hope to find in such an article?

Hard to find factual data these days, in any 'article.' The media is about as accurate as the movies in relaying data to the people. All too often it seems if you really know whats going on, you know that at best the media relays data to the end user in a way that may have been accurate at one point, but the words have been rearranged to make them riddled with mistakes at best.

The only way to know and understand, is to know and understand. Digesting something that someone else ate, is not a good way to go about it IMO if this is a serious paper and not just a Jr. high school project for 5% of your grade.

If as an interviewer you sit down and talk to someone about solid fuel rocket science for an hour, are you going to be able to tell me about solid fuel rocket science and make me understand it? If you are a genius of geniuses perhaps, but most likely you will get about 5% of it right, have 10% of it half way right, and completely screw up the rest of it.
Mudge you have a way of making nothing right and nothing wrong. Now I know I'm fucked up, but after reading the above, I'm more fucked up.



Posted by: brogers

Bhasin et al, 1996 NEJM



Posted by: Hlanderr

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Pretty much anything and everything the media has put out has been both discussional and missinformative. Not sure where you are finding helpful things but if you are reading pubmed, you aren't going to find discussional.

Do you not already have a stance from which to discuss the topic in your own paper? Are you looking to include statistical information or something along those lines, that you would hope to find in such an article?

Hard to find factual data these days, in any 'article.' The media is about as accurate as the movies in relaying data to the people. All too often it seems if you really know whats going on, you know that at best the media relays data to the end user in a way that may have been accurate at one point, but the words have been rearranged to make them riddled with mistakes at best.

The only way to know and understand, is to know and understand. Digesting something that someone else ate, is not a good way to go about it IMO if this is a serious paper and not just a Jr. high school project for 5% of your grade.

If as an interviewer you sit down and talk to someone about solid fuel rocket science for an hour, are you going to be able to tell me about solid fuel rocket science and make me understand it? If you are a genius of geniuses perhaps, but most likely you will get about 5% of it right, have 10% of it half way right, and completely screw up the rest of it.
Mudge first of all I'd like to thank you for replying.

Second of all, in the words of Foreman, my head just exploded.

I understand what you mean Mudge, in terms of still not knowing much about AAS after this paper of mine. That really isn't my objective however.
My main topic is to try to pry the reader away from the propaganda that really captivates American minds on steroids. I was one of them, just about 8 months ago. If you asked me what I thought of them, I would respond just like 99% of all college students-"That's cheating" and "It's fake muscle that leaves you right when you get off". I want to write about not information about steroids, but the common misconception that most Americans have on steroids.

I plan on staying nuetral on the subject, but I plan on trying to separate use from abuse with steroids. The common student knows nothing about steroids- aside from that "they are bad for the body". I want to describe in maybe one page a typical cycle of say Test E (or maybe the more popular Deca) and describe what actually happens in the body (what causes shrinkage and possible gyno) and what happens after the cycle. But my main topic is to de-emphasize what the media portrays steroids out to be. I want to discuss pretty much the politics on steroids, not the chemical signifigance...

And finding info on that is real hard to find... I'm basically trying to dig up articles from users and doctors who describe how steroids aren't as bad as the media makes them out.... it's a hard google search to make.

Again I don't want to bore my teacher with chemical jargon, describing the many esters of Test E and what they are called, but try to get him away from the common media hype against steroids and their ads that place steroids down with drugs like cocaine...

if you know of any articles from users or doctors i would love to have them- my topic needs to rely heavily on quotes from legit sources... especially since i have not used AAS before



Posted by: Hlanderr

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Originally Posted by brogers
Bhasin et al, 1996 NEJM
Found some good reads.... thanks




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