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AL East Standings After 7 Games


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Posted by: min0 lee

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Great. He may have a heart condition. I wouldn't even wish injury upon A-Rod, but I guess that's where you and I are different.

I can see I haven't missed much in this thread since I've been away for a week.
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True. That was wrong.

What I really meant was that since he's hurt he can take his time coming back.
I did not say for him to die, gets bettter = well get better. 5 years= stay home.

I chose the wrong words. I made a mistake.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Meh, I'm just pissed off/disappointed at the way the season is turning out.

I'll go wash the sand out of my vagina now.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Jon Lester is now being tested for possible cancer.

*sigh*



Posted by: I Are Baboon

I'm going to the Sox/Jays game Saturday. I'm more looking forward to getting shitfaced at Boston Beerworks before the game.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Noice.

Very Jealous.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Tigers vs. Yankees in a Day/Night Doubleheader. It's a great day to be working from home!
Two really well-pitched games (well, except for Proctor ). Even Wright pitched well.

It was good to see A-rod rise to the occasion and hit that blast down the 3rd base line to drive Jeter in with what was the lead run at the time.



Posted by: boilermaker

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Two really well-pitched games (well, except for Proctor ). Even Wright pitched well.

It was good to see A-rod rise to the occasion and hit that blast down the 3rd base line to drive Jeter in with what was the lead run at the time.
I was just happy to see Monroe launch that ball into the night and somehow validate me sitting on my ass all day watching 7 hours of baseball



Posted by: Goodfella9783

The Tigers have been killin me all season. I have Nate Robertson on my fantasy team and they give him absolutely no run support. Granted he sucked against the CWS last time out, but the last 3 starts he's made he has gotten 1 run in support. He could easily be a 20 game winner. His ERA was around 3.50 all season but the 10-0 loss to the White Sox shot him up to 4.04.



Posted by: boilermaker

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The Tigers have been killin me all season. I have Nate Robertson on my fantasy team and they give him absolutely no run support. Granted he sucked against the CWS last time out, but the last 3 starts he's made he has gotten 1 run in support. He could easily be a 20 game winner. His ERA was around 3.50 all season but the 10-0 loss to the White Sox shot him up to 4.04.
Yeah, I agree. The bats have been silent for him as of late. He pitched pretty well yesterday, but Wang was better. The Tigers are just freakin' loaded with excellent young pitching. Errors have hurt them as well. I can think of two or three games they should have won had they not made stupid errors late in close games. Also, Ordonez and Thames are liabilities in the outfield and they are weak defensively at SS and 2B.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

The Red Sox have traded David Wells to San Diego for catching prospect George Kottaras. Considering the Sox are so far out of it, I think this is a good deal. By all accounts, this kid is a real top shelf catching prospect. Varitek isn't getting any younger and only has two years left on his contract after this season. If this kid is as good as they think he'll be, he shoud be ready to step right in in two years. Of course, for me it could just be the beer talking.

What do you Sox fans think about this? A 43 year old starting pitcher for a good young catcher.



Posted by: boilermaker

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The Red Sox have traded David Wells to San Diego for catching prospect George Kottaras. Considering the Sox are so far out of it, I think this is a good deal. By all accounts, this kid is a real top shelf catching prospect. Varitek isn't getting any younger and only has two years left on his contract after this season. If this kid is as good as they think he'll be, he shoud be ready to step right in in two years. Of course, for me it could just be the beer talking.

What do you Sox fans think about this? A 43 year old starting pitcher for a good young catcher.
I'm not a sox fan, but I think anytime you can get a good young prospect for a 43 yr. old guy, it can't be bad. Wells, could likely be out of baseball altogether next year. As far as catchers go, these days if you get one that can hit and defend, you are way ahead of most.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Two really well-pitched games (well, except for Proctor ). Even Wright pitched well.

It was good to see A-rod rise to the occasion and hit that blast down the 3rd base line to drive Jeter in with what was the lead run at the time.
I didn't know you became a Yankee fan. Welcome aboard.


Things should get better for Boston next year.



Posted by: min0 lee

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The Red Sox have traded David Wells to San Diego for catching prospect George Kottaras. Considering the Sox are so far out of it, I think this is a good deal. By all accounts, this kid is a real top shelf catching prospect. Varitek isn't getting any younger and only has two years left on his contract after this season. If this kid is as good as they think he'll be, he shoud be ready to step right in in two years. Of course, for me it could just be the beer talking.

What do you Sox fans think about this? A 43 year old starting pitcher for a good young catcher.

As a Baseball fan I think it's a great idea, you really can't go wrong.
The season looks like it's slipping away and I don't think Wells is going to be effective next year.

As a New york baseball fan, I think it sucks.



Posted by: boilermaker

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As a New york baseball fan, I think it sucks.
Damn Yankees! You already got this year to enjoy and you have to go about defending next year



Posted by: min0 lee

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Damn Yankees! You already got this year to enjoy and you have to go about defending next year
Watch them go to the World Series and lose it to a wild card team.

I actually thought it was going to be Boston vs. the Mets this year, I guess not.



Posted by: boilermaker

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Watch them go to the World Series and lose it to a wild card team.

I actually thought it was going to be Boston vs. the Mets this year, I guess not.
Tigers looked good for a while, but there defensive outfield blows and Polonco's injury creates a big defensive and offensive hole. I'm cautiously optomistic that there pitching can get them though the door, but I don't think they can stay in the room.



Posted by: min0 lee

They did good this year, It's nice to see an old Franchise do well.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Watch them go to the World Series and lose it to a wild card team.

I actually thought it was going to be Boston vs. the Mets this year, I guess not.
Yeah that was my prediction two. Neither team is looking great as of now. We already know the deal with Boston, but New York is having problems with Glavine, and lost their best reliever in Duaner Sanchez. They still have a great offense though no matter what.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Yeah that was my prediction two. Neither team is looking great as of now. We already know the deal with Boston, but New York is having problems with Glavine, and lost their best reliever in Duaner Sanchez. They still have a great offense though no matter what.
Don't forget Pedro is nursing an injury, Glavine is also being rested in time for the playoffs.



Posted by: boilermaker

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They did good this year, It's nice to see an old Franchise do well.
Thanks, Mino. Been a loooooooong time since the roar of '84

With the pitching staff they have, they are loaded for bear for 5 years or so.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Thanks, Mino. Been a loooooooong time since the roar of '84

With the pitching staff they have, they are loaded for bear for 5 years or so.
I hope they keep them. I hate it when teams get cheap and gives away their good players, look at the Kansas City Royals, they let Carlos Beltran, Johnny Damon and Jermaine Dye.



Posted by: boilermaker

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I hope they keep them. I hate it when teams get cheap and gives away their good players, look at the Kansas City Royals, they let Carlos Beltran, Johnny Damon and Jermaine Dye.
That's for sure. I grew up idolizing Whittaker and Trammell. The keystone combo they kept together for 17 seasons. And one voice on the radio all those years - Earnie Harwell. One Captain on our hockey team. Steve Yzerman. A wing since 1984. Thomas and Dumars with the Pistons. They all won at least one championship. The only true fuck ups are the Lions. They could never put it all together. Though, Barry Sanders played his entire career there. All 10 years. ASSHOLE.



Posted by: min0 lee

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That's for sure. I grew up idolizing Whittaker and Trammell. The keystone combo they kept together for 17 seasons. And one voice on the radio all those years - Earnie Harwell. One Captain on our hockey team. Steve Yzerman. A wing since 1984. Thomas and Dumars with the Pistons. They all won at least one championship. The only true fuck ups are the Lions. They could never put it all together. Though, Barry Sanders played his entire career their. All 10 years. ASSHOLE.
He was fun to watch, wierd the way he left.
I loved the old tiger stadium for some reason.



Posted by: boilermaker

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He was fun to watch, wierd the way he left.
I loved the old tiger stadium for some reason.
Barry was simply awesome. Never sang like your ordinary canary

Tiger Stadium was a great old park. They are gonna implode it next year, I think.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Tigers looked good for a while
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New York is having problems with Glavine, and lost their best reliever in Duaner Sanchez. They still have a great offense though no matter what.
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Don't forget Pedro is nursing an injury, Glavine is also being rested in time for the playoffs.
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look at the Kansas City Royals, they let Carlos Beltran, Johnny Damon and Jermaine Dye
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I grew up idolizing Whittaker and Trammell. The keystone combo they kept together for 17 seasons. And one voice on the radio all those years - Earnie Harwell. One Captain on our hockey team. Steve Yzerman. A wing since 1984. Thomas and Dumars with the Pistons. They all won at least one championship. The only true fuck ups are the Lions. They could never put it all together. Though, Barry Sanders played his entire career there. All 10 years.
Ahem. Please note the title of the thread. AL East.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Ahem. Please note the title of the thread. AL East.
LoL. Sox start losing and all of the sudden no AL East talk. Looks like and over abundance of Sox fans to me. Not that there's such a thing.



Posted by: boilermaker

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Ahem. Please note the title of the thread. AL East.
The Tigers used to be in the AL East.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

I am extremely pissed off that tomorrow's Sox/Jays game been been moved from 7:05 to 1:05? WHAT THE FUCK!? I'm going to the game and that earlier start is going to cut into my Boston Beer Works time.

Goddamn incosiderate Red Sox management assholes.

The Beer Works now has TWO Octoberfest brews on tap.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I am extremely pissed off that tomorrow's Sox/Jays game been been moved from 7:05 to 1:05? WHAT THE FUCK!? I'm going to the game and that earlier start is going to cut into my Boston Beer Works time.

Goddamn incosiderate Red Sox management assholes.
Well then, you'll just have to do a majority of your drinking after the game. Hopefully the weather cooperates for you. Where are you sitting?



Posted by: P-funk

who really cares about the AL east?

The AL central is where the race is at this year!



Posted by: soxmuscle

Freak injuries, near life threatening occurences, players under performing. A plethora of things are the reason for this team not performing the way they should be performing.

It's a shame in some cases because this is probably Schilling's last season as a true ace, Papelbon is having the best year of his career, and Ortiz/Ramirez are performing so well.

At the trade deadline, it was clear that this team needed some reinforcements and when it passed without any such acquisitions, I was real irritated. However, I now realize this team wasn't a Roy Oswalt away from being a World Series Champion. Not with the kind of injuries the Sox have sustained in the past month or two.

It's too bad we have the Dan Shaugnessy's of the world spewing there bullshit into the hearts of Red Sox Nation. This team is set-up very nicely for the future, and while the youngsters couldn't be relied upon this year, next year I guarantee you that Hansen, Delcarmen, and Papelbon will be one of the scariest back of the bullpen's in baseball.

Just for shits and giggles.

Your 2007 Boston Red Sox:

C - Jason Varitek
1b - Carlos Pena, Jeff Bagwell
2b - Dustin Pedroia
ss - Julio Lugo
3b - Kevin Youkilis
lf - Wily Mo Pena
cf - Andruw Jones
rf - Coco Crisp
dh - David Ortiz

c - George Kattaras (acquired by SD for Wells)
if - Alex Cora, Willie Harris
of - David Murphy, Gabe Kapler

Schilling, Clemens, Beckett, Wakefield, Lester

Tavarez, Foulke, DiNardo, Hansen, Delcarmen, Papelbon

Bagwell coming off of injury might make a formidable platoon mate with Carlos Pena. Lowell has to go, the guy is a perennial first half hitter, and can't be relied upon for all 162 games. Bagwell has been out this whole season, and has Boston roots. It'd be a nice home coming and if he could put together a season similar to the Big Hurt in Oakland, he'd be an excellent person to take a gamble on.

Manny Ramirez, as much as I hate to say it, is probably in his last days as a Sox (Sock?). I have said this in the past and it never seems to come true, which is a good thing in my opinion, but it seems like this time it will finally come true. He'll probably be shipped to Anaheim or New York, two teams who covet him.

I could see a deal where Lastings Milledge is involved and either Crisp or Milledge is then spun to Atlanta for Andruw Jones. Jones seems to be a favorite of Epstein's.

As does Julio Lugo. Lugo would have been a Red Sox at the deadline had he been willing to play third. Instead he ended up in LA and is a platoon player when clearly he deserves to be playing on a regular basis. Theo Epstein has coveted him for two seasons now, and although I have loved having Gonzalez at short this season, you can't expect him to hit .285 with 10 home runs next year. He's one of the few players on this team actually performing better than he should be.

Dustin Pedroia will replace Mark Loretta. I love Loretta, but as an A free agent, you can't pass up on the draft picks we'd receive. Plus, Pedroia although he hasn't shown he's ready yet, has hit well at all levels and can hold the fort at second with the offensive addition of Julio Lugo at shortstop.

Clemens, like Bagwell, comes to Boston to make his final run with Schilling. He knows he made a mistake this year, and he won't do that again the second time around. Book it.

Wily Mo Pena will replace the beloved dirtdog Trot Nixon in right. I love Nixon, and he'll always be a Red Sox at heart, but you can't continue to rely on him in right field when he's only being able to play so often. He also can't hit lefties, and Pena needs to be at the plate more to hopefully improve that eye that seems to be coming along.

I feel like Crisp will be back. Some players are made for Boston, some aren't. Edgar Renteria wasn't, and the Braves might take advantage of that again, but at the same time I can't imagine Epstein giving up on the 26 year old this quickly. He's cheap, he hasn't been effective this year, but you could see that all change next season. All players have off years, just like all players have better years than they probably should have.

Kattaras will finely replace Mirabelli, whose been anemic at the dish. I love the Wells trade. This kid has a chance to be good, especially considering he's learning the game from the best, our captain, Jason Varitek. We've needed a youngster to back him up, this canadian is it.

Theo will acquire another bullpen arm. He won't make the same mistake again. You can expect Tavarez or DiNardo to be casted off somewhere else.

Alex Cora might be replaced, he did the same thing in LA two years ago. He's an excellent role player, he tried to make it as a starter in Cleveland and was DFA'd a third of the way through the season.

Would you be angry with a line-up of:

Youkilis 3b
Lugo ss
Ortiz dh
Jones cf
Bagwell/Pena 1b
Pena rf
Varitek c
Crisp cf
Pedroia 2b

Looks alot better than the Four-A line-ups we've thrown out there the last few days. Of course you miss Manny though, alot. If Theo has learned anything, its that we need a 3-4-5. Ramirez, Ortiz, Jones would be the best in baseball.

Get 'er done.

/end rant



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Well then, you'll just have to do a majority of your drinking after the game. Hopefully the weather cooperates for you. Where are you sitting?
BLEACHER SEATS, baby!

Actually, I'm kind of bummed because the earlier start also means no morning weights/cardio workout. No time.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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This team is set-up very nicely for the future...
Totally agree, which is why I was not terribly disappointed that nothing happened at the trade deadline.

Andruw Jones came pretty close to being a Red Sox this season, so seeing him in Boston next season would not surprise me.

I don't see the Mets trding Lastings Milledge though....even though he is a terrible defensive player.

As good a year as Papelbon has had, the Sox need to get him back into the starting rotation. Closers are a lot easier to come by that starting pitching. Hoprefull Craig Hansen will live up to expectations and slide into that closer role. I think Mike Timlin might be done.



Posted by: Triple Threat

sox, giving up on Hinske? I noticed that you didn't mention him.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Would you be angry with a line-up of:

Youkilis 3b
Lugo ss
Ortiz dh
Jones cf
Bagwell/Pena 1b
Pena rf
Varitek c
Crisp cf
Pedroia 2b
Looks good to me. It will be sad to see Manny go, but Andruw Jones in Boston will be an easy 40-50 HR season. And I g*ddamn arm in Center for once! And we might see Wily Mo Pena be the first guy since Scotty Smalls to bust the guts out of a ball . That's a powerful line-up. Who knows wtf will happen this off-season.



Posted by: soxmuscle

It's not that I'm giving up on Hinske, but he's purely a situational hitter and in Boston he isn't suited for anything more than pinch hitter role.

Toronto is paying a good enough amount of his contract, so he won't be too hard to pawn off if they do infact pick up a Bagwell slash have enough confidence in Carlos Pena.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Oh my goodness.

For Immediate Release

September 1, 2006



BOSTON, MA --The Lester family has asked the Red Sox to release the following statement:



Jon Lester has been diagnosed with a treatable form of anaplastic large cell lymphoma and will begin treatment within the coming week.



Jon and his family wish to thank all those involved in his care at Massachusetts General Hospital . Our gratitude also extends to the Red Sox organization which has provided Jon and his family much needed support during this ordeal.



We ask that you respect our need for privacy during this difficult time.



-- RED SOX --

***

God bless, Jon Lester. Everybody should say a prayer for him tonight.

I'll be thinking about you, get well, my man.



Posted by: boilermaker

That's bad news, but, they are pretty good at treating forms of lymphoma these days with Chemo. Here's hoping he comes out of it alright.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Hopefully they caught Lester's cancer early enough.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Scary stuff. What is he like 22 or 23?



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Scary stuff. What is he like 22 or 23?
Born: Jan 7, 1984



Posted by: Triple Threat

Big series coming up in Boston with the White Sox in town.

In more important news, the Yankees magic number is now 18.



Posted by: busyLivin

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Big series coming up in Boston with the White Sox in town.

In more important news, the Yankees magic number is now 18.
the white sox should win tonight: Detroit & Minnesota won. They wait to lose when they have an opportunity to go up in the standings.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Red Sox should be psychologically up for tonight's game. Ramirez, Nixon and Varitek are all back.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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the white sox should win tonight




Posted by: busyLivin

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the white sox should win a lot of games that they lose. Disappointing year.. they don't deserve to make the playoffs.

Minnesota should get the wild card.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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the white sox should win a lot of games that they lose. Disappointing year.. they don't deserve to make the playoffs.

Minnesota should get the wild card.
Yeah I honestly don't know how the Red Sox just pulled that off. Especially Taveras' performance. Who's pitching tomorrow?



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Yeah I honestly don't know how the Red Sox just pulled that off. Especially Taveras' performance. Who's pitching tomorrow?
vasquez vs gabbard. ortiz comes back tomorrow, too.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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vasquez vs gabbard. ortiz comes back tomorrow, too.
Great pitching from both sides tonight. Fortunately, we got that run and it was enough. I guess we just have the White Sox number this year. I wonder why we can't play like this againt the other AL teams?



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I wonder why we can't play like this againt the other AL teams?
Red Sox record vs AL is 59-62, vs the NL it's 16-2.



Posted by: boilermaker

Just keep pounding on those White Sox



Posted by: busyLivin

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Just keep pounding on those White Sox




Posted by: IainDaniel

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Red Sox record vs AL is 59-62, vs the NL it's 16-2.

Fucking national leauge. Mind you 2/3' of the AL have .500 or better records against the NL. Including teams like seattle



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Hey, remember those two guys the Red Sox traded away for Josh Beckett? Well here's one of them: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260906128

FUCK!



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I'm going to the Sox/KC game today. Hopefully Mike "Shit Ass" Timlin won't make an appearance.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I'm going to the Sox/KC game today. Hopefully Mike "Shit Ass" Timlin won't make an appearance.
At least with a 7 pm start, you'll be able to get your drinking in.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Boston would have appreciated him more, there was no one to see his no hitter.
I noticed the few times they fill that stadium is the Yankees or Mets play their....most of the fans are transplanted New Yorkers.

Did you know that the Marlins have won the same amount of world series as the Mets and they are tied with the Yankees with no hitters.
They just lack tradition I guess.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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At least with a 7 pm start, you'll be able to get your drinking in.
I drank two 24 oz beers and a 16 oz one (Octoberfest, hefeweizen, and pale ale).

We left the game after the 11th inning because we had to get home. THANK GOD we left when we did. Frikkin pathetic Red Sox.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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We left the game after the 11th inning because we had to get home.
Too bad you couldn't stay for all the excitement. Almost half of all the runs were scored in the 12th.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

YYYYYYEAH, complete game for JULIAN TAVAREZ!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260922114

So yeah, like WTF dude?



Posted by: SpeedyReedy5

I like the yankees baby this is the year. We spend all this money I think we finally gel together and return to the top.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Boston Red Sox have now been officially eliminated from qualifying for this year's playoffs.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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YYYYYYEAH, complete game for JULIAN TAVAREZ!!

ESPN.com - MLB - Recap

So yeah, like WTF dude?
Haha! I never saw this post. But that's exactly what all of Red Sox nation was thinking after his starts in Sept.




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