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Help me here, Nolva question


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Posted by: Rocco32

I'm battling a mild case of Gyno I think. From what I don't know but my nipples have been hurting for awhile. Here is what I have:

USP Clomiphene Citrate 50MG/ML
USP Tamoxifen Citrate 10MG/ML
60ML Vial

What should I do, how much should I take? Thanks!



Posted by: laylo

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Originally Posted by Rocco32 View Post
I'm battling a mild case of Gyno I think. From what I don't know but my nipples have been hurting for awhile. Here is what I have:

USP Clomiphene Citrate 50MG/ML
USP Tamoxifen Citrate 10MG/ML
60ML Vial

What should I do, how much should I take? Thanks!
use one or the other. research and decide which one you want to take. from my research im going to take 20 mg tamoxifen (nolvadex) a day until its gone then taper down a week or two after. i had a bad cause of gyno, pretty big lumps and ive just been taking novadex xt and they are almost gone. but im still gonna take the nolva when it comes to get rid of it completely



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

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Originally Posted by Rocco32 View Post
I'm battling a mild case of Gyno I think. From what I don't know but my nipples have been hurting for awhile. Here is what I have:

USP Clomiphene Citrate 50MG/ML
USP Tamoxifen Citrate 10MG/ML
60ML Vial

What should I do, how much should I take? Thanks!
Are you sure the nolva isn't 20mg/ml. Anyway, take 40mg ed for a week or until you notice the flare up going away.



Posted by: laylo

right right, yeah i got liquid



Posted by: Pirate!

His post was from April. I hope he got rid of the gyno by now.



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

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His post was from April. I hope he got rid of the gyno by now.
LMAO, thank you for pointing that out. I didn't even bother to check.



Posted by: laylo

hahah, yeah hope he got it figured out



Posted by: KelJu

If not, he probably has a nice rack by now.



Posted by: Pound for Pound

laylo, would you mind sharing what caused your gyno?



Posted by: DOMS

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laylo, would you mind sharing what caused your gyno?
Uhhh...laylo only posted three times, and that was back in 2006. I don't think he's going to answer you.

I'm no expert on it, but I think that gyno is a result (in the case of exogenous testosterone) of taking certain steroids that, due to homeostasis, will increase estrogen levels. This may lead to increased feminine features. Like bigger nipples.

So you'd take an estrogen inhibitor (Nolvedex) to suppress the cause of the gyno.

On a side note, I wonder is this also increases the risk of breast cancer in men? Women will take estrogen inhibitors, like Novladex, to decrease the risk of breast cancer.



Posted by: Pound for Pound

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Uhhh...laylo only posted three times, and that was back in 2006. I don't think he's going to answer you.

I'm no expert on it, but I think that gyno is a result (in the case of exogenous testosterone) of taking certain steroids that, due to homeostasis, will increase estrogen levels. This may lead to increased feminine features. Like bigger nipples.

So you'd take an estrogen inhibitor (Nolvedex) to suppress the cause of the gyno.

On a side note, I wonder is this also increases the risk of breast cancer in men? Women will take estrogen inhibitors, like Novladex, to decrease the risk of breast cancer.
hahaha, I should be more observant next time.

Gyno is a complicated beast. There are many factors that can cause it - aromatization (estrogen), prolactin, progestin, IGF-1, estrogen rebound, etc. and depending on the cause you may want to combat it with different compounds (AI vs. SERM). There are several schools of thought on the issue many have differing opinions.

Sorry I couldn't have been more help, I'm combating some gyno myself...



Posted by: DOMS

What are you doing for it?



Posted by: Pound for Pound

I got it from Phera-Plex (which I now regret taking). I have tried topical formestane, toremifene citrate, letrozole, and cabergoline but to no avail. The caber was a research chem from a place that some people like and some don't but I felt nothing from it, not even the positive sexual sides. I didn't run it for too long because it has been linked to valvular heart disease which is a little scary.



Posted by: DOMS

So, nothings working? Not even the Nolvadex?!



Posted by: Pound for Pound

I haven't tried nolva yet, that's next on the list.



Posted by: DOMS

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I haven't tried nolva yet, that's next on the list.
Be forewarned: There's a reason that Nolvadex is sometimes referred to as "liquid ass".

Have you already ordered it?



Posted by: Pound for Pound

No worries, mine tastes like bubble gum

Yes, I already have it but I'm thinking about going pharm grade from now on.




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