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Posted by: juggernaut

NHA Stack Log

I am beginning the Designer Supplements NHA Stack which consists of Rebound XT, Activate and the optional Lean Xtreme (because I am leaning out). My diet consists of

This stack is starting on Saturday the 21st of April, 2006. My amount will be the recommended dosage that DS suggests. This non-prohormone cycle will be done in a one month period. My weight as of this morning is 223.5 lbs. My bodyfat is at 18%.
The dosage schedule:


Week Rebound XT Activate Lean Xtreme
1 2 caps 4 caps 2 caps
2 2 caps 4 caps 3 caps
3 2 caps 4 caps 3 caps
4 1 cap 4 caps 3 caps


Rebound XT will be taken with a healthy fat meal.
The rest will be taken through the day, spread out.

My workouts consist of
Saturday: Chest, abs, Cardio
Sunday: Back, hams, cardio
Monday: OFF/CARDIO
Tuesday: Shoulders, calves, abs, cardio
Wednesday: Biceps, Triceps
Thursday: Quads
Friday: OFF

Diet is pretty much the same, with 2 gallons of water every day:

1 cup oats
1 scoop whey,
2 cups water
No Doz, multivitamin
supps


Post Workout
2 scoops whey
1 scoop malto


(1 hour later)

1 scoop whey or 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg

1/2 cup oats

4g fish oil caps, supps

Lunch
Meat
Veg
Complex Carb


Mid-afternoon
2 scoops whey
3g fish oil
supps


Dinner 2 pieces of meat/chicken/fish
1 1/2 cup veg
mixed greens, with oilve oil and balsamic




Snack before bed (every night)
Micellar protein drink 1 scoop/1 scoop whey
1 tbsp flax
supps

Saturday
cheat meal and dessert




Posted by: juggernaut

At the present time, my weights are as follows-these weights are measured without the Olympic bar. CEE was stopped 3 days ago:
Saturday: Started cycle today. Nothing-no reputed warming-nothing. Oh well, tomorrow is another day
I did notice since creatine was out of my system, the work was a little heavier. I feel like I didn’t push myself as much either. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
DBell Flat Bench Press (6 sets)
W/UP35lbs-12, W/UP50-8, W/UP65-4
80-8, 80-10, 80-9, 80-6, 90-4, 80-8
Incline Smith Bench Press (3 sets)
140-7, 140-8, 140-7
Flat Bench flies (3 sets)
40-10, 40-10, 40-8
DBell Pullovers (2 sets)
50-12, 60-10
Leg Raise
FAIL, 12, 10
Swiss Ball Crunch
Fail, 10, 12, 12
Machine Crunch
60-12, 60-12, 60-8

Cardio-30 minutes, on level 4.0, @ 3.5 mph


Posted by: juggernaut

Sunday: Started feeling a warming sensation before workout. As for in the gym, WOW. Is the only word I can describe. I blew apart ALL records of standard weight sets. I thought it might be a placebo effect, but I looked into previous users' logs and noted that I experienced a typical response on the same level as other users.
I had an incredible time with both Deads and Leg Curls. I still feel the sensation, and its giving me a pump in both the hams and upper back.
Deadlifts (4 sets)
W/UP 90-12, W/UP 150-5
180-12, 200-10, 210-10, 230-5
Lat Pull Under Bar (3 sets)
160-12, 180-8, 180-8
1 Arm DBell Row (2 sets)
60-12, 70-11
Rear Delts bent cable (2 sets)
W/UP 10-10, 15-8

Seated Leg Curl (5 sets)
W/UP 90-12
90-12, 110-8, 110-8, 130-8, 1300-8

Cardio-30 minutes, on level 4.5, @ 3.5 mph.


Posted by: 40-yard dash_2

Great detail throughout thus far. I'm looking forward to this log. Best of luck!


Posted by: juggernaut

Monday.
Did cardio. No problems.
Today, I noticed a little more oil on my cheeks as well as the surfacing of some zits (GAAAHHHH). Some of my dry skin has even gone into hiding as more oil has replenished my skin. This is good. Meals have been fine, but I am starting to notice the presence of more hunger, so I squashed my cravings with some natty peanut butter. Other than that, no changes.


Posted by: 40-yard dash_2

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
Monday.
Did cardio. No problems.
Today, I noticed a little more oil on my cheeks as well as the surfacing of some zits (GAAAHHHH). Some of my dry skin has even gone into hiding as more oil has replenished my skin. This is good. Meals have been fine, but I am starting to notice the presence of more hunger, so I squashed my cravings with some natty peanut butter. Other than that, no changes.
Increase in test along with BMR. Good things to come.


Posted by: juggernaut

Nice.


Posted by: juggernaut

forgot-i sweated a bit last night when sleeping and the house had no room temp changes.


Posted by: Dale Mabry

I am a big fan of Activate, never used Rebound.


Posted by: topolo

I love rebound and didn't care much for activate.


Posted by: juggernaut

Tuesday.
Noticing weird wakeup patterns in sleep. Although I feel like I am awake and alive when just waking up. I'm going to get back on melatonin. This always worked for me. Still feeling the warming trend (sound like a weather report), even when standing-or doing nothing. Also developing a skin tight sensation, especially in the upper and lower arms.
Today's gym session was good. I felt more out of the weight that I was working with. It didnt seem as heavy. A small gain in the upright rows and lateral raises. Calves went especially well, feeling a major burn (actually blow torch) on single calf raises.
DB Press (5 sets)
W/UP35-12, W/UP55-8
65-10, 65-10, 70-8, 70-6, 70-6;Drop Set 55-4
Upright Row (3 sets)
30-12, 30-10, 35-8
Front Raise DBell (2 sets) (nice burn)
20-12, 25-9
Seated calf Raise (DogCrapp style) (2 set warmup);(1 action setx3)
W/UP 65-12, 90-10
110-9,4,4
Single calf raise then Double Raise
8 reps on each calf, 12 reps on double, both sets.


Posted by: juggernaut

Wednesday
Went up in barbell curls by about 10 lbs; went up five lbs on db curl too. Unbelievable burn during bench dips-more than ever.
Sleep went better, used the meltatonin. Slept like a log. Had that groggy feeling when I woke up that melatonin brings.
Noticed more veins when doing db curls.
Barbell Curl (4 sets)
W/UP with Bar, W/UP20-10
30-12, 40-10, 45-8, 45-6
Seated Alt Curl (3 sets)
50-7, 50-8, 50-8
Rope curls (2 sets)
42.5-11, 42.5-8
Close grip barbell bench press-superset with bench dips (4 sets)
w/up90-12
110-12;failed @ 8, 120-9;failed @ 9, 120-8, failed @ 10 120-7 failed @ 12
skull crushers with db (3 sets)
25-12, 30-8, 30-7
db overhead press (2 sets)
75-10, 75-9


Posted by: juggernaut

Thursday
My legs were on fire today. I gained almost 90 lbs in the last of my 2 leg press sets combined. I thought I couldve done more, but the knees were starting to give, so I lightened the load and went for more reps on a lighter scale.
Front squats-moved up 10 lbs on the last set. Leg Ext. went up 20 lbs. all in all, the first week has been pretty good, if this the shape of things to come, I'll be pretty damn happy at the end of this month cycle.
Oil still continues to be a factor as my bald head has a bit of shine that a lot of people are noticing. I wipe it and it comes back again in an hour. I was prett damn aggressive yesterday, as my assistant noticed that I was letting stuff that wouldnt normally bug me, really piss me off. I ripped one of my coworkers a new asshole and it felt pretty fucking good. I was able to actually contain it afterward, but she did notice it and in the beginning, I told her to watch me back just in case I get nasty. Slept really good last night.
Leg Press (6 sets)
W/UP270-12, W/UP360-8, 450-4
540-12, 630-12-,720-10, 740-6.5,630-8
Front Smith Squats (3 sets)
70-12, 90-10, 100-10
Alt Step Ups (3 sets)
35-10, 35-10, 35-10
Leg Extensions (2 sets)
110-12, 130-8


Posted by: 40-yard dash_2

Your doing a fantastic job on the log. How's recovery from one workout to the next?


Posted by: juggernaut

Thanks. I really dont ahev any problems getting souped for my next workout-although getting up at 330 in the morning takes a toll on me. As far as DOM is concerned, it used to be the first 2-3 days would be a sore on after; I started doing the NHA stack and it would seem like a better 1-2 days only. Not bad?


Posted by: juggernaut

I got on the scale this morning. I didnt like what I saw, but I am a bit perplexed. I only lost 1 lb of fat, but even though I am only about 20 lbs short of my contest weight, I feel and look harder. More veins are popping, my strength is up considerably and I'm restricting carbs somewhat to the AM and post training, upped the protein and added a little more fat. I dont feel like I am on a diet. I dont feel the grogginess, nor did I lose ANY strength that I experience when restricting carbs.
Do I account the stack this? Hard to say, but I think it is helping thus far.


Posted by: 40-yard dash_2

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
I got on the scale this morning. I didnt like what I saw, but I am a bit perplexed. I only lost 1 lb of fat, but even though I am only about 20 lbs short of my contest weight, I feel and look harder. More veins are popping, my strength is up considerably and I'm restricting carbs somewhat to the AM and post training, upped the protein and added a little more fat. I dont feel like I am on a diet. I dont feel the grogginess, nor did I lose ANY strength that I experience when restricting carbs.
Do I account the stack this? Hard to say, but I think it is helping thus far.
I think so, but we will see in the upcoming weeks.


Posted by: juggernaut

Saturday
There are some small increments going on here. I plowed through with good form in DB flat bench presses, went up 5 lbs in good frm in flies, reps increased in smith inclines, and pullovers went up 10 lbs. Noticed a bit of mental clarity while doing heavy work-something I never noticed before.

DBell Flat Bench Press (6 sets)
W/UP35lbs-12, W/UP50-8, W/UP65-4
80-8, 80-10, 80-9, 80-6, 90-6, 90-7
Incline Smith Bench Press (3 sets)
140-8, 140-8, 140-8
Flat Bench flies (3 sets)
40-10, 45-10, 45-9
DBell Pullovers (2 sets)
65-12, 75-10
Leg Raise
FAIL, 12, 10
Swiss Ball Crunch
Fail, 10, 12, 12
Machine Crunch
60-12, 60-12, 60-10
CARDIO: 11 minutes of HIIT on recumbant bike @ level 8, then 1 for one minute on/off.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Interesting log, nice detail.


Posted by: juggernaut

Sunday
Weights are still increasing. Irritability is starting to set in a bit quicker; mowed the f***king lawn to day. didnt want to, made me a nasty mess.
Deadlifts (4 sets)
W/UP 90-12, W/UP 150-8
180-12, 240-8, 250-6, 250-6
Lat Pull Under Bar (3 sets)
160-12, 180-10, 180-8, 180-7
1 Arm DBell Row (2 sets)
75-12, 80-10

Leg Curl (5 sets)
W/UP 110-12
130-10, 130-10, 150-6, 140-8


Cardio-HIIT-11 min, R.Bike; lvl 8 to lvl 1-1 minute apart


Posted by: BigDyl

That's a very interesting stack. What ingredients do activate and rebound XT contain?


Posted by: juggernaut

did calves today too. Here it is:
Seated Calf Raise (Dog Crap Style)
W/UP80-12, 90-8
Action Setx3 (slow count down): 115-8, 5, 3
Single/Double Pump calf Raises Standing
1 on each foot, then pump out with both legs on block; 10 on each foot (increase of 2 reps over last week), then 12 rep dbl pump


Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl
That's a very interesting stack. What ingredients do activate and rebound XT contain?
Here's the pdf on it:

http://www.designersupps.com/product.../NHA_Stack.pdf


Posted by: juggernaut

I keep an accurate log because I want be able to refer back to it so that when I start dieitng for a show, I will know whether or not to buy this stack again. Thanks for the props.


Posted by: juggernaut

I'm not happy with the small decreases in fat loss, so I started to use my "secret weapon" . HIIT training-I've done it during almost every show and it is probably the one key factor that gets me so low in BF. I do only 3 workouts a week, adding one minute cycles to each week. It works very well. I think it works so well because my body seems to get used to the low impact boring dull-ass cardio. I hate that shit.

Anyway I also altered my diet a little; on smaller bodypart days (shoulders or arms) i will forgo the second meal of oatmeal an hour later after PW supplementation is administered.


Posted by: juggernaut

Tuesday
Went up in all by either more reps or more weight. small increases, but keeping the form top priority and getting a good burn out of everything. Today will be there first day of modified diet-no oatmeal an hour after PWO nutrition, just two scoops of whey and 4 grams of fish oil with Activate and Lean Xtreme.
DB Press (5 sets)
W/UP35-12, W/UP55-8
70-10, 70-9, 70-8, 70-6, 75-6;Drop Set 55-6
Upright Row (3 sets)
30-12, 50-10, 50-9
Front Raise DBell (2 sets)
20-12, 25-9, 25-10
Abs
leg raises-3 sets to fail
swiss ball crunches-3 sets to fail
machine crunches-2 sets to fail


Posted by: juggernaut

Wednesday
Still going strong. More later.
Barbell Curl (4 sets)
W/UP with Bar, W/UP20-10
40-12, 40-8, 45-8, 45-7
Seated Alt Curl (3 sets)
50-10, 50-8, 50-8
Rope curls (2 sets)
42.5-11, 47.5-12
Close grip barbell bench press-superset with bench dips (4 sets)
w/up90-12
110-12;failed @ 10, 125-7;failed @ 8, 125-7, failed @ 8, 125-7 1/2 failed @ 7
skull crushers with db (3 sets)
30-8, 30-10, 30-9
db overhead press (2 sets)
75-12, 80-10


Posted by: juggernaut

Friday
Allergies kicked my ass yesterday, so I took off. I did legs today and didnt do too well.
Leg Press (6 sets)
W/UP270-12, W/UP360-8, 450-4
540-12, 630-12-,720-7, 740-7, 630-6
Front Smith Squats (3 sets)
70-12, 100-8, 110-10
Alt Step Ups (3 sets)
40-8, 40-8, 40-8
Leg Extensions (2 sets)
130-12, 140-10


Posted by: juggernaut

DBell Flat Bench Press (6 sets)
W/UP35lbs-12, W/UP50-8, W/UP65-4
80-12, 80-12, 90-8, 90-7, 90-6; 70-5
Incline Smith Bench Press (3 sets)
140-8, 145-7, 145-6
Flat Bench flies (3 sets)
40-10, 45-10, 45-10
DBell Pullovers (2 sets)
75-10, 75-10
Leg Raise
FAIL, 15, 12
Swiss Ball Crunch
Fail, 10, 12, 11
cable pulldowns
200-12, 200-12
CARDIO: 12 minutes of HIIT on recumbant bike @ level 8, then 1 for one minute on/off.


Posted by: juggernaut

Sunday
Did GREAT today. Made PBR on deads. Weight still coming off very low. Only a lb decrease; did a leptin refeed all day. Muscle were really full by 3pm. What a difference.
Deadlifts (4 sets)
W/UP 150-8, 180-6
220-6, 230-6, 270-2, 270-1
Lat Pull Under Bar (3 sets)
180-12, 180-8, 180-10,
1 Arm DBell Row (2 sets)
80-10, 80-12, 80-10

Leg Curl (5 sets)
W/UP 130-12
135-10, 140-10, 140-6, 140-8


Cardio-HIIT-12 min, R.Bike; lvl 8 to lvl 1-1 minute apart


Posted by: bludevil

Journal looks good, I'm interested in taking this stack as a Non Hormonal lean bulk. So, what are your thoughts so far. I'm sure their good since your #'s keep increasing. Also, I'm interested in your secret cutting agent?
Also, with RXT have you noticed loss in libido or has the Activate negated that.


Posted by: juggernaut

Tuesday
DB Press (5 sets)
W/UP35-12, W/UP55-8
70-10, 70-8, 70-8, 70-7, 70;Drop Set 55-8
Upright Row (3 sets)
50-10, 50-10, 55-8
Front Raise DBell (2 sets)
20-12, 25-10, 25-12
Calves
Seated Calf Raise (DC)
W/UP80-12, 90-8
Action Setx3 (slow count down): 115-8, 6, 3
Single/Double Pump calf Raises Standing
1 on each foot, then pump out with both legs on block; 12 on each foot,
then 10 rep dbl


Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by bludevil
Journal looks good, I'm interested in taking this stack as a Non Hormonal lean bulk. So, what are your thoughts so far. I'm sure their good since your #'s keep increasing. Also, I'm interested in your secret cutting agent?
Also, with RXT have you noticed loss in libido or has the Activate negated that.
Thanks.
I did this as a non prohormone lean cycle. Usually, I digress in weight training-I get weaker. Its a sucko way to lose weight. Here, I not only increased on all my weights/reps, but in the short time that I have done this cycle, people are noticing that I look bigger and my neck/trap area for some reason has increased the most along with a good size of shoulder development.
My "secret" is really no biggie-I'm doing 1 minute high as hell, to one minute low pace. I only do it 3x a week and started out doing 11 minutes adding one minute to it weekly.
Another diet "secret" is to forget about the spike in PWO nutrition. I usually just gain fat. Now, I started doing a 1/2 banana to feed the liver with glycogen and oatmeal for rebuilding and replenishing muscle stores. This comes from Jodi. Last on my diet needs is a refeed every Saturday. This works like crazy.
As for libido...well, my rate of aggression is a lot higher. That's all I'll say about that....


Posted by: juggernaut

W/UP with Bar, W/UP30-10
40-12, 40-10, 45-6, 45-8
Seated Alt Curl (3 sets)
50-10, 50-10, 55-6; drop set w/40-6
Rope curls (2 sets)
47.5-11, 50-10
Close grip barbell bench press-superset with bench dips (4 sets)
w/up90-12
125-8;failed @ 10, 125-8, failed @ 12, 125-7 failed @ 8, 125-5 failed @ 7
skull crushers with db (3 sets)
30-8, 35-10, 35-7
db overhead press (2 sets)
80-10, 80-10

Hanging leg raises-supersetted with stability ball crunches to fail x 3
crunches on floor x 3


Posted by: BigDyl

Looking good here. I have some secret non-hormonal weapons myself. Maybe I'll start a journal sometime and post them.


Posted by: juggernaut

what are they dyl?


Posted by: BigDyl

It's a secret.


Posted by: juggernaut

sorry dyl. I lost my mind.


Posted by: BigDyl

No, I'll post it eventually when I'm not so lazy.

So is this NHA stack really that great? Or does the cool bottle create a placebo effect?


Posted by: Twin Peak

Its all about the cool bottles and the colorful caps!


Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Peak
Its all about the cool bottles and the colorful caps!

You weren't supposed to see that!


Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl
No, I'll post it eventually when I'm not so lazy.

So is this NHA stack really that great? Or does the cool bottle create a placebo effect?
As much as cool bottles and gay ass caps appeal to me, I found Activate to Xceed my expectations.


Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
As much as cool bottles and gay ass caps appeal to me, I found Activate to Xceed my expectations.
weak........


Posted by: juggernaut

thats it. when I take it to work, my students see this and they say is that steroids? I say, NO!!!! Why, it's better than that-it Designer Supplements NHA Stack!!!!!!!!


Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl
No, I'll post it eventually when I'm not so lazy.

So is this NHA stack really that great? Or does the cool bottle create a placebo effect?
It's the shit.


Posted by: bludevil

I've read good reviews on NHA stack, but I'm waiting for Reloaded to come out and stack w/ USP Labs Powerfull. Powerfull seems to be getting rave reviews so I'm going to substitute Activate with it. Will probably run after my cutting cycle (mid summer)


Posted by: juggernaut

I might take a look at that one too.


Posted by: juggernaut

Friday
One thing I have noticed fairly consistently is the burn that I get from this stuff. I cannot believe how "burnish" its gets! I never experienced burns like this before. When i got home, I actually saw veins popping from my quads. I never saw this before. I dont know whats causing it but damn it motivates me!
Leg Press (6 sets)
W/UP270-12, W/UP360-8, 450-4
540-12, 650-10, 720-8, 740-7, 630-10, 650-12
Front Smith Squats (3 sets) (did free standing front squats-without smith machine
70-12, 90-12, 100-10
Leg Extensions (3 sets)
130-12, 150-10, 150-10 (what a burn)
Alt Step Ups (2 sets)
40-10, 40-10


Posted by: juggernaut

DBell Flat Bench Press (6 sets)
W/UP35lbs-12, W/UP50-8, W/UP60-4
75-12, 80-12, 80-8, 90-8, 90-6;70-5
Incline Smith Bench Press (3 sets)
145-7, 145-6,145-6
Flat Bench flies (3 sets)
45-12, 50-10, 50-10
DBell Pullovers (2 sets)
75-11, 75-10
Leg Raise
FAIL, 15, 13
cable pulldowns
200-12, 200-12
Swiss Ball Crunch
Fail, 10, 12, 11

CARDIO: 30 minutes low intensity on treadmill, incline 4 @ 3.5 mph
Changed so that I can alternate from HIIT to Low Intensity walking on treadmill-just like when training for BBing contest


Posted by: juggernaut

Sunday
Deadlifts (4 sets)
W/UP 150-8, 180-6
230-10, 230-8, 240-6, 270-2
Lat Pull Under Bar (3 sets)
180-12, 180-8, 185-7,
1 Arm DBell Row (2 sets)
80-10, 80-10, 80-10

Leg Curl (5 sets)
W/UP 130-12
135-12, 150-10, 150-8, 150-7


Cardio
Treadmill walk, 30 min, @ incline 4.0-3.5 mph


Posted by: juggernaut

Started tapering down the Rebound XT, as mentioned to the 4th week. No noticeable side effects, nor did I have any real losses in strength. One thing bothers me, all of my weights and reps went up a lot during this cycle. However, when I started this cycle, my weight was 223.5 I took a reading this Saturday and I was up to 225. Does this mean I gained 2 lbs of lbm in the one month of this cycle? I am taking pictures on Friday and will see if thats the case. Remember my carbs are almost at 100g a day, BUT my weight has gone up, my strength is better than it has been and I dont know what or how to account for all of this. My waist has gotten smaller as I have worn the same wardrobe throughout the month.


Posted by: bludevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
Started tapering down the Rebound XT, as mentioned to the 4th week. No noticeable side effects, nor did I have any real losses in strength. One thing bothers me, all of my weights and reps went up a lot during this cycle. However, when I started this cycle, my weight was 223.5 I took a reading this Saturday and I was up to 225. Does this mean I gained 2 lbs of lbm in the one month of this cycle? I am taking pictures on Friday and will see if thats the case. Remember my carbs are almost at 100g a day, BUT my weight has gone up, my strength is better than it has been and I dont know what or how to account for all of this. My waist has gotten smaller as I have worn the same wardrobe throughout the month.
Things look very interesting, can't wait to hear the final results.


Posted by: juggernaut

Tuesday
Went up again in db press. Nice job. Burns are great! I am going to miss being on this stuff because the burns are something I love!
DB Press (5 sets)
W/UP35-12, W/UP55-8
70-10, 70-10, 75-8, 75-7, 75-5;Drop Set 55-8
Upright Row (3 sets)
50-10, 50-10, 55-9
Front Raise DBell (2 sets)
25-10, 25-12, 25-10

Ab Cable pulldowns (3 sets)
Stack-12, stk+10-16, stk+10-22
Stability ball
3xfail
crunches
2xfail
cardio-treadmill walk @ 3.6 mph-incline at 4.0


Posted by: juggernaut

Wednesday
Arms were on fire today. Noticed even more veins swelling in forearms and bis. Triceps felt like they were goign to burst through the skin.
Barbell Curl (4 sets)
W/UP with Bar, W/UP20-10
40-12, 40-8, 45-8, 45-6;DS 20-6
Seated Alt Curl (3 sets)
45-12, 50-9, 50-8
Rope curls (2 sets)
50-12, 50-8
Close grip barbell bench press-superset with bench dips (4 sets)
w/up90-12
110-12;failed @ 10, 125-10;failed @ 8, 125-8, failed @ 8, 125-8 failed @ 7
skull crushers with db (3 sets)
30-10, 30-10, 30-8
db overhead press (2 sets)
80-10, 80-11
Cardio treadmill 3.6 @ incline 4.0


Posted by: juggernaut

This will be my final entry for two weeks to see if I lose strength or gain any BF back. My cycle is done.
Looking back I definitely gained a lot of strength. I dont know if I would use the NHA stack as a cutting agent again, but most definitively as a gaining agent where calories are in abundance. Who knows what kinds of gains I could have made if I had the increase in cals and carbs?
As for physical appearance-looking at my pics, I do see some subtle differences. More veins, thickness in neck, tris, chest and thighs. Unfortunately, I was only on this for a month and wouldve enjoyed a longer use of the stack, but I have a mortgage and 2 car payments. I absolutely bet that I couldve made continued gains on this had I been on it for 2 months.
So, I am going to remain supplement free for a month or two (except for whey); start on a CEE cycle and see how that goes. Or, I may take an arginine route and use v12 turbo which I used before and good success with it.


Posted by: Twin Peak

So you leaned out and gained a significant amount of strength in one month? Nice job.

I myself prefer an 8 week NHA Stack. Next time you'll have to try it using Rebound Reloaded.


Posted by: juggernaut

I will. Who makes it?


Posted by: juggernaut

This is the last entry. It has been 3 weeks now and I seem to have kept 80% of my gains. My strength did go down a small bit, but overall, I managed to keep most if not all of the gains I made. I made some changes in my schedule and moved my rep count higher, to accomodate the needed changes in my weight loss. It seems by measurement that I have added some musculature and dropped a few more lbs in the process. I have taken pictures of before and after and it looks like the NHA stack will be something I will use again-albeit not in a weight loss cycle.
I will use this stack in a mass/strength cycle only. The reason why is becuase I did gain some weight, I am sure it was muscle weight and not fat weight. This made me confused at times, and because of the tricks my mind palyed on me, I will use this stack only in a conducive cycle parallel to my gains. In short, this will be used only when in a mass cycle.
If I had to change anything, I probably wouldnt use the Lean Extreme component. I feel this did nothing. I will use green tea extract, as this has been used in the past, and it seems like this is the only thing that truly made a difference in my accelerated weight loss scheme.
Finally, this stack works. I recommend it to anyone. Dont exppect steroid-like gains because it isnt steroids.


Posted by: BigDyl

Where's the pics?


Posted by: juggernaut

dyl, I will not EVER show you my pics, bitch. Who the hell knows what you'll do with them??????


Posted by: Robboe

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Originally Posted by juggernaut
I will. Who makes it?
Us.


Posted by: juggernaut

whats it do?


Posted by: Robboe

It is the updated version of Rebound XT. The beneficial effects derived appear to be still there, whereas the negatives (namely the loss of libido) do not appear to be so.


Posted by: topolo

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Originally Posted by Robboe
It is the updated version of Rebound XT. The beneficial effects derived appear to be still there, whereas the negatives (namely the loss of libido) do not appear to be so.
Rob,

TP said you would send me a bottle of reloaded. Do you still have my info?


Posted by: Robboe

Nah, doubt it. You'll have to resendy.


Posted by: Robboe

By the way, if it was anyone else saying that i wouldn't bother, but cause it's you i'm gonna check with Steve first. haha.

You crazy lil' scamper, you.


Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robboe
By the way, if it was anyone else saying that i wouldn't bother, but cause it's you i'm gonna check with Steve first. haha.

You crazy lil' scamper, you.
Fair enough.........hater


Posted by: Twin Peak

Yeah, I'd actually like to see Simon's opinion on Reloaded, given his like of RXT.


Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Peak
Yeah, I'd actually like to see Simon's opinion on Reloaded, given his like of RXT.
Would you like me to use it between cycles or for pct?


Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Peak
Yeah, I'd actually like to see Simon's opinion on Reloaded, given his like of RXT.
Would you like me to use it between cycles or for pct?


Posted by: Twin Peak

Whichever way will give you a better comparison to RXT.


Posted by: Robboe

I still have no-no topolo-info.


Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robboe
I still have no-no topolo-info.
pm sent


Posted by: Robboe

pm ignored




Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robboe
pm ignored
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