Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

comments??

i know this probly belongs in another section but i forgot where i was at...

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Ronnie's back is sick.

Originally Posted by musclepump

Frank Zane.

Originally Posted by fufu

hahahahaha I love that Ronnie picture.

Yeah Arnold wins by a long shot.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Hulk Hogan

Originally Posted by ultimo

me too !!!! think arnold was amazing in his day and still today!!!!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Well that pic was when Arnold was only 225....here he is at 240 and top shape

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Originally Posted by bigjb1

Doses have incresed dramatically, as has food intake, and science behind timing of meals and what / when to take in sugar is a bit different. The drugs haven't changed much, if at all. I wonder how Arnold would look if he had access to today's strats back then. A 6'2" 255-260lb Arnold would have been incredible. But it's all still the IF game. When I was about 10 years (or more) younger, I wanted to be a freak like Coleman is today, but I'm preferring the Arnold physique more and more now. Maybe its my joints... hehe.
J

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I don't think bodybuilders in Arnold's era were using hGH.

Originally Posted by assassin

foreman posted old bbs photos , i liked them a lot, i think at this time there was no steroids or hormones used yet..am i right

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Steroids 1950-1980...1955 is when it beacme well known with athletes
GH 1981-now...not popular till late 1980's


Tom Platz IMO was the first to use it ( I wouild guess 1980 or so) and then Lee Haney when he went from 230 to 248 in less than a year ( 1983-1984)

Originally Posted by assassin

but they were not so big like the coleman generation .........what's the secret of this

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

PLatz had legs as good or better than any pro today or ever. In 1983 or 4 when Haney started using all the new drugs it all was uncharted so it took decades to figure out how far you could take it.

Originally Posted by assassin

but they were not so big like the coleman generation .........what's the secret of this

Originally Posted by Mags

Arnold has overall a better figure in proportion and simply in overall look. Ronnie, I'd admire for just being so huge and incredibly strong. His quad mass does kick the piss out of arnolds, but arnolds go better and as everyone else mentioned, they're more defined. Arnold still has some of the best biceps and chest when compared to bodybuilders today no matter who the contender is. I mean, look at the first photo, Ronnie possibly has bigger arms due to larger tri's but Arnolds Biceps actually look longer, fuller and overall BIGGER than Ronnies. Thats truly amazing and why arnold will always stand the test of time. I'd rather have arnolds physique any day.

Originally Posted by maniclion

hGH has ruined bodybuilding or to be more specific the torso portion.

Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

it is the bodybuilders who have ruined hgh!

if not abused to extremes has great effects

Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Look at the length of his tendons running to Arnold's bicep! A high peak implies less bicep mass.

HERE's one of the greatest of all times: look how there's no peak, but his mass is probably to the tune of 20 percent denser if not more.

Originally Posted by bigjb1

Doses have incresed dramatically, as has food intake, and science behind timing of meals and what / when to take in sugar is a bit different. The drugs haven't changed much, if at all. I wonder how Arnold would look if he had access to today's strats back then. A 6'2" 255-260lb Arnold would have been incredible. But it's all still the IF game. When I was about 10 years (or more) younger, I wanted to be a freak like Coleman is today, but I'm preferring the Arnold physique more and more now. Maybe its my joints... hehe.
J

Originally Posted by LexusGS

ronnie is a monstar

Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

looks like ronnie has a small bit of gyno there HAHA

Originally Posted by juggernaut

overall, ahhnold, lee haney, bob paris, berry demey, lee labrada, shawn ray, darem charles and mike christian are probably the better bodybuilders than the mass monsters. They all have one thing in common-symmetry. Who gives a fuck about a striated ass or a the fact that you cant fit thru normal sized door? I just dont think the bloat is a point of where bbing should go. Its unreal to say the least, and these guys work hard-damn hard, but it just doesnt look like a real person. And what the fuck is with that big valley in the center ronnie's abs?

Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

comments??

i know this probly belongs in another section but i forgot where i was at...

Originally Posted by juggernaut

its really funny how they make him look unreal in the mags. But if an ameteur takes a picture, it looks hilarious, all bloated and shit.

Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

that guy is one humongous walking muscle

Originally Posted by juggernaut

what a fucking 'tard.

Originally Posted by the nut

How was this guy a cop?

Originally Posted by assassin

sick as hell ....... he has got tits and a fine ass...

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

affirmative action

Originally Posted by drbenroth

arnie looks like some kind of athletic god
ronnie looks like a greasy, constipated, pregnant hick...although, im not sure i'd say it to his face.


does my bum look big in this?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

affirmative action

Originally Posted by Zhu

to me, arnolds right bicep looks far larger than his left one. ruins the symmetry arnold supposedly posessed.

Originally Posted by Zhu

to me, arnolds right bicep looks far larger than his left one. ruins the symmetry arnold supposedly posessed.

Originally Posted by Zhu

to me, arnolds right bicep looks far larger than his left one. ruins the symmetry arnold supposedly posessed.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Well that pic was when Arnold was only 225....here he is at 240 and top shape

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I agree. I also think (the vacuum pose) brings a little more to the table overall, as well as adding a touch of class to any pose.

Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

I dare you to say that to his face

Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

I dare you to say that to his face

Originally Posted by Zhu

to me, arnolds right bicep looks far larger than his left one. ruins the symmetry arnold supposedly posessed.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

oh just shut the fuck up. I bet you rode the little yellow school bus this year didnt you?

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

yeah i did. thats where i met your girlfriend and made her my bitch. she said it was ok though. cause her boyfriend had a crush on the terminator. peace.--peace.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

hahahahaa

That's funny. Because I heard that you took it in the ass with your dad, but he said it was okay on account of him having a crush on the terminator.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

the first part of that is very origional for a boy with a third grade education. now if your done being so defensive try and look at the humor of my origional reply"chicken wing". it was meant to be sarcastic. for a name like the "juggernaut" why do you continually keep butting your head against the same wall but not getting anywhere.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

you talk way too much for anyone to care.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

???this is a discussion board???? judging by your smiling faces on every post you make, you might not have guessed.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

:thu mb:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'm sorry, I was busy playing with smiley faces to really give a shit about what you're saying.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

shut up stupid. You just couldnt think of a better retort. Dumbass.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

i think its just funny you get so offended. hows that chip on your shoulder treating you?? i found out the one thing that can stop the juggernaut, an insult. ha,ha. -peace

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

i think its just funny you get so offended. hows that chip on your shoulder treating you?? i found out the one thing that can stop the juggernaut, an insult. ha,ha. -peace

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

arnold was good for his time.(although for the record i think mike mentzer should have won the 1980 mr o. over him) but in retrospect i think there are to many politicts involved in bodybuild. arnold won becuase of his ties to weider. i think the same apply to ronnie. i dont know how they come about these decisions but once you become mr o your pretty much set. no one is going to beat ronnie even if he comes in crappy as all get out. your body can only take so much though, so maybe ronnie will wear out physically like dorian. ronnie is a horse though.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

arnold was good for his time.(although for the record i think mike mentzer should have won the 1980 mr o. over him) but in retrospect i think there are to many politicts involved in bodybuild. arnold won becuase of his ties to weider. i think the same apply to ronnie. i dont know how they come about these decisions but once you become mr o your pretty much set. no one is going to beat ronnie even if he comes in crappy as all get out. your body can only take so much though, so maybe ronnie will wear out physically like dorian. ronnie is a horse though.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

He took 4th or 5th and that was about right.

I have watched the vid of that show and Arnold was only about 70% of his best....but still better than all in that show.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

you have to be offended in order to get offended you stupid bitch. Are you referring to the way I'm talking to you possibly? I just cant stand dumbfucks.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

do you really believe that because of ties to weider, arnie was able to swoon a series of judges? Thats a tall order. Wasnt there some controversy about how Arnold shouldnt have been there in the first place because of not even qualifying in past events?

I also believe Mentzer was in better shape than arnold in the 80 O.

As for ronnie, I believe his time is limited because of his ridiculous size, which isnt obtainable by mere mortals. I think the freakiness is a passing genre that will see a demise sooner or later. I'd like to see the shawn rays or lee labradas (read symmtrical) win the major shows.

Originally Posted by Double D

Yeah thats a great way to try and squash it. How about this, "I am sorry we were both ignorant and I apologize". Now wouldnt that make more sense?

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

its a shame in a way. arnold was way ahead of his competition for his time, save for you the 80 olympia. thats when the competion started to catch up with arnold, that he had let himself go. in my opinion the 80 olympia was the greatest showing of all time as far as overall quality.but its so strange that arnold won. with everybody else being dead on and arnold came in at about 50% of what he had been in the past. im a arnold fan for sure but i cant lie and say that was a just competition.

are you a big mentzer fan?? i follow the principals of mentzer hit so im treated as a bit of an outcast on most body building boards in regards to training.--peace.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

i disagree with the ignorant part. if sombody calls you a "dumb shit' way out in left field for no reason/you should call them out.then they know theyre in the wrong and you give them an opportunity to grow. but i should know when to quit also so im through with the squabble. peace.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

ive seen the video as well. arnold shouldnt have even placed in the top 6. although i will admit that arnold is a force to be dealt with in top shape he was soft from hollywood at that point. he entered started training for the contest 5weeks out and he didnt decide to do the show until the day of the contest after he found out who the judges were. mike mentzer should have been first or it might have been 2nd since tom platz looked unearthly that night. thats my opinion though. but bottom line arnold came out in the books so thats how it is i guess. -peace.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I thought Arnold looked like shit but he was still the best in that show....Just think if he lost...he would have got back to 237+ hell even bigger and won it 5 more times just to make a point.

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

--peace.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

whats with the peace already? Stop it will ya?

Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

you see that new x3 movie yet?? what did you think of the juggernaut character?? i though it was pretty decent.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought the movie sucked.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought the movie sucked.

Originally Posted by aceshigh

arnies arms were 21 inches but they seem to look alot bigger than ronnies also that pic is bullshit

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Arnold is God.....Ronnie will be forgotten in a few years while Arnolds name will live on for generations.

Originally Posted by aceshigh

wtf are u talking about arnold who??

Originally Posted by Mags

Arnold has overall a better figure in proportion and simply in overall look. Ronnie, I'd admire for just being so huge and incredibly strong. His quad mass does kick the piss out of arnolds, but arnolds go better and as everyone else mentioned, they're more defined. Arnold still has some of the best biceps and chest when compared to bodybuilders today no matter who the contender is. I mean, look at the first photo, Ronnie possibly has bigger arms due to larger tri's but Arnolds Biceps actually look longer, fuller and overall BIGGER than Ronnies. Thats truly amazing and why arnold will always stand the test of time. I'd rather have arnolds physique any day.

Originally Posted by ssenkrad

I beleive Arnold has a more pleasing body then Ronnie.

Arnold is the greatest Bodybuilder of all time

Originally Posted by gsxrK3

Real quick could someone explain exactly where the gut comes from that Ronnie has, since it's not fat.

Hey juggernaut I just downloaded Elder Scrolls 4, it's pretty fun!

Originally Posted by Prince

MANY pros have a more pleasing physique than Ronnie!

Originally Posted by BoytonHeavy

All I gotta say is, Arnold wins hands down!...lol...Whatever happened to the small waists of the old days? I'm always trying to have a small, tiny waist like Arnold's, I don't let myself get a belly or a huge stomach

Originally Posted by MeatZatk

I really hope that the pendulum starts swinging back toward guys like Arnold and Zane.