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Posted by: T-rav

I am currently 215lb i was wondering if it may be possible to drop bout 15lb's or fat or so before sept. with running twice a day in with well balanced diet and weight training but if not possbile put enough muscle on to look a little more lean i just got done bulking i was just wondering what ya all think(trying to get look little more cut or what not)

running twice a day morning right as i wake up 6:00 in night 4hours before bed weight training 3 times a week push,pull,legs

eatting currently every 3hours starting tommrow i am going to start my diet journal back up again and can repost my diet after a week but just wondering
what you all think about it

Travis LeRoy bench-210 wt. 215. height 6'1'' 14years old thx a bunch



Posted by: mike456

too much running
just run once a day on the days you are off from training and take 1 day completely off.



Posted by: TJ Cline

You can drop 15lbs of fat in 8 weeks with just diet and no running. If you are runnung to get in shape for a sport then run once a day and 4 or 5 times a week



Posted by: Malley

I agree.......to much running all you are going to do is tired yourself out and probably burn yourself out on it. And your strength and size will probably suffer.



Posted by: CowPimp

I would definitely spend more time on getting your diet down. Read the information available in the diet & nutrition section and post your diet there.

Resistance training 2-3 times per week supplemented with another 2-3 sessions of cardio each week should be plenty.



Posted by: crzycesgraphix

I so don't know everything, but from my own experience, and from most of what I have read, it is neigh impossible unless you are incredibly genetically gifted to drop the tough lbs without losing some lean body mass. The most common solution to maintaining as much as possible is to, as said above, pay very close attention to your diet, consider suppliments like glutamine to retain as much lean mass as possible, and get to cutting!



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Posted by: T-rav

yes i was hopeing to maintain as much lean body mass as possible in lose the fat as slow as i can but as fast as i can until my set goal date however the set goal date dont mean nothing just something to work up to even pass'd that i hear it is healthy to lose atleast a half to a pound of fat a week is good alittle more could be loseing lean body mass but if it takes some lean body mass to make me look little more cut or lean im all in because im after im done with cutting i am going to start back up with bulking



Posted by: crzycesgraphix

...rebulking, I'd suggested dropping the weight a bit quicker, like 2lbs a week or so. It can be a bit faster. Also, once you hit the weight you want to start bulking at, unless you are going for *huge* mass, there is no reason to put much body fat on over 11%. Just find out your bmr, add in the calories you will burn through exercise, and eat that amount +3 calories per lb. of body weight (Not 600 cals of hot fudge sundae ;^). That should let you bulk with the majority being muscle, and very very little pudge factor.



Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by crzycesgraphix
...rebulking, I'd suggested dropping the weight a bit quicker, like 2lbs a week or so. It can be a bit faster. Also, once you hit the weight you want to start bulking at, unless you are going for *huge* mass, there is no reason to put much body fat on over 11%. Just find out your bmr, add in the calories you will burn through exercise, and eat that amount +3 calories per lb. of body weight (Not 600 cals of hot fudge sundae ;^). That should let you bulk with the majority being muscle, and very very little pudge factor.
Yeah, 2lbs per week is pretty reasonable considering your bodyweight. Also, when your body fat levels are higher you can drop it quicker without losing LBM.

Also, an upper limit of 11% is pretty rough. That is very hard to maintain for some people. I wouldn't even necesarrily recommend it for a 14 year old. Most likely, if he just cleans up his diet and makes healthier eating choices (More vegetables, less processed foods, etc.) and starts exercising he will notice a dramatic weight loss. This is a time in his life where he can put on muscle like none other. Don't waste it trying to maintain super low body fat percentages. Don't go crazy and get yourself up to 25%, but I think an upper limit of 15% is far more reasonable.



Posted by: Squaggleboggin

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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, 2lbs per week is pretty reasonable considering your bodyweight. Also, when your body fat levels are higher you can drop it quicker without losing LBM.

Also, an upper limit of 11% is pretty rough. That is very hard to maintain for some people. I wouldn't even necesarrily recommend it for a 14 year old. Most likely, if he just cleans up his diet and makes healthier eating choices (More vegetables, less processed foods, etc.) and starts exercising he will notice a dramatic weight loss.
So true. Take it from me with experience. I'm 16 and I was 230 last September or so and now I'm down to about 188 (at last weigh-in). All I did was try to eat more meals more frequently throughout the day. I just made the meals smaller and had the largest meals in the beginning of the day, tapering my calories throughout. Avoid pop and fried/processed foods like the plague. Instead, drink skim milk and lots and lots of water. I don't see why people pay for carbonated sugar water all the time when they could get the pure stuff for free at most places. There are a lot of little things you can do (above) that will quickly add up to fat losses. If you start a training regimine (which I highly recommend) on top of that, you'll be eating the right foods (lots of fruits, veggies, carbs, proteins) to feed the muscle and starve the fat off. It really isn't that difficult. It just takes some discipline. Good luck.




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