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Posted by: CowPimp

I know, plenty of people will dismiss this as crackpot nonsense, but I think you should watch it. I saw the last half; it's about 80 minutes long. There are certainly some interesting tidbits of information made available throughout:

http://www.freepressinternational.co...911-video.html



Posted by: skaterdude

so old.

Just propaganda.



Posted by: DOMS

Yep.



Posted by: CowPimp

Very well could be. I have always thought there was a distinct possibility that there was some type of inside work involved, or at least an abstaining from doing what was needed for prevention, because there was a lot which stood to be gained. The motives are there. There is also a lot of suspicious activity surrounding the whole incident. Unfortunately, nothing will ever be confirmed either way.



Posted by: TJ Cline

It is propaganda just like the BS we are fed every day on TV or in the papers....all I know is...power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely



Posted by: Big Smoothy

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
It is propaganda just like the BS we are fed every day on TV or in the papers....all I know is...power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely
This post is related to how people think about 9/11.

Propaganda is everwhere.

The American media is very controlled. Yes, controlled.

I'll paraphrase an author most of you have heard of.

Tom Wicker is a journalist for the New York Times.. Wicker says "nobody tells me what to write."

This is true. Nobody tells him what to write.

But if he didn't what write, what he does write, he would have never been hired.

There is a filtering system in American newspapers, radio and televsion.

9/11 Conspiracy:


I do believe that at least one person, or a small group of people knew that there was a high possiblity of an attack on the U.S. using airplanes.

They didn't pursue, or attempt to stop any of these plans.

Why?

Who benefitted from 9/11?

All of the recent laws passed, all of the new military bases in Central Asia, and the war on attack could not have happened without the 9/11 attacks.



Posted by: CowPimp

Although it seems insane, there were recently released plans in the 60s (Operation Northwoods) which were signed by the joint chief of staff, to blow up a ship and blame it on Castro. This kind of thought isn't new. It's also how Hitler convinced his people they should invade Poland.

Also, DOMS and skaterdude, you guys should actually watch the video before passing judgement.



Posted by: Tier

Running planes into those two buildings killed 5000 people and killed our economy for a good while, it's still hurting in a lot of ways. They would not have done that because if it ever came out and was proven the Government would cease to exist.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by Tier
Running planes into those two buildings killed 5000 people and killed our economy for a good while, it's still hurting in a lot of ways. They would not have done that because if it ever came out and was proven the Government would cease to exist.

No it wouldn't. Americans are dumb asses, the media outlets are puppets, and the government would simply spin the story until nobody knew what the fuck happened.



Posted by: DOMS

Most "conspiracies" are simply people performing revisionist history to fit it into their world view.



Posted by: skaterdude

Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Who benefitted from 9/11?
No one did you idiot.



Posted by: skaterdude

Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
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Also, DOMS and skaterdude, you guys should actually watch the video before passing judgement.
I have watched the video, so now i can pass judgement.



Posted by: skaterdude

Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
Although it seems insane, there were recently released plans in the 60s (Operation Northwoods) which were signed by the joint chief of staff, to blow up a ship and blame it on Castro. This kind of thought isn't new. It's also how Hitler convinced his people they should invade Poland.
You could probably put the USS Main in there too.



Posted by: BigDyl

True Story, the terrorists are winning.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote Originally Posted by Tier
Running planes into those two buildings killed 5000 people and killed our economy for a good while, it's still hurting in a lot of ways. They would not have done that because if it ever came out and was proven the Government would cease to exist.
Don't be naive. Not saying that this is true 100% at all, but I still feel it's a possibility, especially considering Dick Cheney is the founder of PNAC and multiple members/former members of the cabinet are members of this organization too.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS
Most "conspiracies" are simply people performing revisionist history to fit it into their world view.
Histroy books are filled with BS, I see little differance with them and conspiracie nuts.



Posted by: DOMS

The difference is that history books are simply the winner's take on facts, the conspiracy theorist like to make crap up or connect actual events that, in truth, have nothing to do with each other.



Posted by: topolo

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Histroy books are filled with BS, I see little differance with them and conspiracie nuts.
After reading this post, I see litlle difference between your spelling and Doublebase's



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS
The difference is that history books are simply the winner's take on facts, the conspiracy theorist like to make crap up or connect actual events that, in truth, have nothing to do with each other.


You are 100% correct, all history is 100% fact, and conspiracy theorists are 100% fiction.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by topolo
After reading this post, I see litlle difference between your spelling and Doublebase's
After reading this post, I see litlle difference between your spelling and Doublebase's .



Try to brush up on your punctuation.




Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by DOMS
The difference is that history books are simply the winner's take on facts, the conspiracy theorist like to make crap up or connect actual events that, in truth, have nothing to do with each other.
Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl
You are 100% correct, all history is 100% fact, and conspiracy theorists are 100% fiction.




Posted by: topolo

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
After reading this post, I see litlle difference between your spelling and Doublebase's .



Try to brush up on your punctuation.
Can you reccomend somewhere to brush up?



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by topolo
Can you reccomend somewhere to brush up?
I will get back to you on that, right now I have to go rub one out.



Posted by: topolo





Posted by: BigDyl

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I will get back to you on that, right now I have to go rub one out.

Topolown3d!!!!!



Posted by: lnvanry

I've watched the whole thing and feel its ultimate conclusion that our leaders did the act for under 400million in gold is rediculious...400million is a drop in the bucket for them.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry
I've watched the whole thing and feel its ultimate conclusion that our leaders did the act for under 400million in gold is rediculious...400million is a drop in the bucket for them.
That's not the only reason. It's the power factor and the financial gains of the war profiteers, with whom many in the government have lots of ties to.



Posted by: lnvanry

the financial gain explaination was a joke too...It stated that speculators bought put options on Delta and it was 4x the yearly average...what's the explaination for that:

September incurs the lowest volume of air travel...That's called obvious investment. its no secret. It would be the same as purchasing a put option for a snow plow manufacturer in June.

The only piece of evidence IMO that wasn't wild specualtion was the cell signal strength in the air....but they never explained recorded conversations I we to presume that these victims are part of the wide conspiracy or that the gov't had simulated their voice in a impromtu converstion with their loved ones? Its so off base and is quite misleading.

It seems as plausable as the conspiracy of us not landing on the moon. I don't think that anyone in the gov't knew this was coming...nor anyone in the financial district. Maybe I'm naive....I'd rather be that than a paranoid conspiracy theorist though.



Posted by: skaterdude

Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry
Maybe I'm naive....I'd rather be that than a paranoid conspiracy theorist though.


me too



Posted by: Richie1888

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

this website has some good ideas about things



Posted by: CowPimp

I'm not really paranoid, but I'm not closed minded either. Unfortunately we will probably never know one way or the other, because the only investigation ever performed on this incident was extremely late and grossly underfunded compared to previous investigations of serious national occurences. It just seems fishy to me when the top officials in the government stonewall an investigation of this attack and then proceed to be very touchy about being interviewed on the topic as well (Unrecorded, unofficial, won't sign anything, strict time limit, over a year later, etc.)



Posted by: lnvanry

fair enough....it doesn't bother me too much.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
I'm not really paranoid, but I'm not closed minded either. Unfortunately we will probably never know one way or the other, because the only investigation ever performed on this incident was extremely late and grossly underfunded compared to previous investigations of serious national occurences. It just seems fishy to me when the top officials in the government stonewall an investigation of this attack and then proceed to be very touchy about being interviewed on the topic as well (Unrecorded, unofficial, won't sign anything, strict time limit, over a year later, etc.)

Who would question the honesty and integrity of our top government officials?



Posted by: lnvanry

why you of course



















JK



Posted by: maniclion

Don't you guys know it was really the Canadian's who did it.



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