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Posted by: shiznit2169

What a disappointment. All the hype about how USA was going to be good and this was their year before the World Cup ends up in a total bust. The coaching was horrible, referees made some terrible calls, and the players did not have any confidence and felt like they didn't belong there from what i saw. The biggest flaw was the lack of attacking and they played more of a "defensive" mode.

Oh well, there's always 2010.



Posted by: aceshigh

is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!



Posted by: JordanMang

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Originally Posted by aceshigh
is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!
We have this game called football here in a America. It's like soccer, only 10x harder.



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by JordanMang
We have this game called football here in a America. It's like soccer, only 10x harder.
we have a game here called rugby league its like your football only 20 x harder



Posted by: cg18862

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Originally Posted by JordanMang
We have this game called football here in a America. It's like soccer, only 10x harder.

I call bullshit....I'm taking a guess here, but I don't think you've probably ever step foot and played in an acutal soccer game so how can you base your opinion on something you've never done? Oh, I forgot, 16 year olds know everything.

I'd like to see you run up and down the soccer field for 90+ minutes without all of the protection you have on for football while players are constantly going for your legs. Don't think you would last 9 minutes.

I will agree that the US sucked big time this year though. Didn't even come close to expectations.



Posted by: NeilPearson

Soccer is way more difficult than football... I would still rather watch hockey than either of them though



Posted by: IRMonk

We'll always have curling!.....



Posted by: Goodfella9783

That PK was bullshit. Barely any contact. It was over at that point. Thanks ref.



Posted by: NeilPearson

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Originally Posted by IRMonk
We'll always have curling!.....
Actually I think curling is more entertaining than soccer too.



Posted by: fufu

Good, USA needs some humility.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!
Hi, just wondering....You guys have been to how many World Cups?
Australia barely beat a crappy Uruguay team to get in. Heck Uruguay lost to Venezuela twice, once shut out in URUGUAY. Who did you guys have to beat to "BARELY" get in?
Oh, and please, Australia was playing an 11 man defense against Brazil... Hell they were playing "Everyone get inside the Goal" defense and hope to God that Brazil plays bad defense to counter attack...
Stop talking out of your ass....



Posted by: IRMonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Hi, just wondering....You guys have been to how many World Cups?
Australia barely beat a crappy Uruguay team to get in. Heck Uruguay lost to Venezuela twice, once shut out in URUGUAY. Who did you guys have to beat to "BARELY" get in?
Oh, and please, Australia was playing an 11 man defense against Brazil... Hell they were playing "Everyone get inside the Goal" defense and hope to God that Brazil plays bad defense to counter attack...
Stop talking out of your ass....
....lousy kangaroo-fuckers....



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by IRMonk
....lousy kangaroo-fuckers....




Posted by: IainDaniel

The US was an over hyped team who shouldn't have been ranked 4th in the world, who have they beaten Mexico, in the CONCAF qualifing. Ghana was suprisingly a decent team, and exciting to watch.



Posted by: fantasma62

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
The US was an over hyped team who shouldn't have been ranked 4th in the world, who have they beaten Mexico, in the CONCAF qualifing. Ghana was suprisingly a decent team, and exciting to watch.
I couldn't agree with you more...That's 1000% right.....

In fact, when I go to Venezuela, they tell me they wish they were playing in the CONCACAF. Having to play Costa Rica, Trinidad, Jamaica, USA, Canada (are they in it too?), Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, etc

Venezuela plays Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Bolivia, Chile, etc. Hell, I wish they would move a bit more north. I love that the US plays there, at least we know we'll be visiting the World Cup every four years....



Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah the south American Qualifying is probably the toughest in the world. So many decent teams.

Oh and for Aceshigh 2-1 croatia over Australia. That Goaltender looked like a dipshit.



Posted by: JordanMang

Rugby isn't as much a team game as football. And yes, I played 4 years of soccer before I quit Freshmen year. Football is harder.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

We need the 2008 Summer Olympics so we can kick the shit out of the world in everything else so we can feel better about ourselves again. That, or bomb the eventual World Cup winner and take their oil.



Posted by: goandykid

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!

We have practically every other sport... And coming from someone who has played both rugby and football, and my dad played minor leage Rugby in England, football is much harder. I don't think you quite grasp the difficulty of sacrificing your body play after play for an hour. Running for 90 minutes is one thing, but there's a reason football has one of the lowest retirement ages and highest serious injury occurrences.



Posted by: lnvanry

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Originally Posted by fufu
Good, USA needs some humility.
its going to take a lot more than a stupid soccer tourney to humuliate the US



Posted by: min0 lee

We play Soccer?
I didn't know that.



Posted by: lnvanry





Posted by: IainDaniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
We play Soccer?
I didn't know that.
Not to well at that



Posted by: IainDaniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by goandykid
We have practically every other sport... And coming from someone who has played both rugby and football, and my dad played minor leage Rugby in England, football is much harder. I don't think you quite grasp the difficulty of sacrificing your body play after play for an hour. Running for 90 minutes is one thing, but there's a reason football has one of the lowest retirement ages and highest serious injury occurrences.
Difficulty of a sport isn't equated by injuries. I would have to go with Rugby or Soccer as being more difficult sports.



Posted by: min0 lee

The coverage for Soccer was pathetic here in NYC, in the back pages the Yankees losing had more press than Soccer did.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnvanry
its going to take a lot more than a stupid soccer tourney to humuliate the US
Yes, I know, we have George W. that's enough humiliation for one day...



Posted by: IainDaniel

Every game was televised her in Canada, and my cable provider had it available On-demand, so you could watch any game that was played at anytime that suited your scedule



Posted by: goandykid

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
Difficulty of a sport isn't equated by injuries. I would have to go with Rugby or Soccer as being more difficult sports.
Then how would you equate it? The way I look at it is this: In which sport does the athlete have to exert more and spend more time and effort not only while playing but tuning himself to be better suited for that sport. Ronaldhino may be great as far as endurance and eye-foot coordination goes, but when I see him I see a man who doesnt hustle on defense and looks like he hasn't lifted a day in his life. There are football players who are faster, bigger, and I'm sure many wide receivers or db's could rival the endurance of soccer stars.



Posted by: IainDaniel

If difficulty or toughness of the athlete is equated by injuries then skiing would win hands down. Football players are put in comprimising positions that is the main reason why injuries are so high.

No doubt some recievers or defensive backs could rival some of these soccer players. But in Reality they are only on the field 50% of the game, and a good chunk of that time is setting up for the next play.

It pointless to argue who spends more time preparing for there game, they are both professional athletes and that is there livelyhood, so you can't really say one does more then the other.



Posted by: goandykid

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
If difficulty or toughness of the athlete is equated by injuries then skiing would win hands down. Football players are put in comprimising positions that is the main reason why injuries are so high.

No doubt some recievers or defensive backs could rival some of these soccer players. But in Reality they are only on the field 50% of the game, and a good chunk of that time is setting up for the next play.

It pointless to argue who spends more time preparing for there game, they are both professional athletes and that is there livelyhood, so you can't really say one does more then the other.

You would come to a peaceful compromise Canadian



Posted by: IainDaniel

Now if it was Canadian Football Rules then that would be the toughest sport hands down



Posted by: goandykid

easily haha



Posted by: devildog88

Soccer sucks and only 9 % of the world cares about it! Less than 4% of Americans even watched the damn thing!



Posted by: IainDaniel

LOL 9% of the world.... More like 90%



Posted by: P-funk

The USA fucking sucked. I knew they would choke. They blew it big time. Terrible coaching IMO. They played like pussies.


Soccer is a fucking great game and hard as hell!! It is just silly to compare sports so different as soccer and football. Come on. That is like apples and oranges. Both are incredibly difficult and require incredible athletic talent. But comparing them is just moronic.

As far as australia goes.....when have they dominated the world cup? olympics? world strongman?

exactly.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

I love playing soccer, very challenging. Now watching it, the Sportscenter highlights are enough for me. Most of the guys who "train" on this site would die within the first 5 minutes of a soccer match. The USA was ranked 4th so that Americans would think they were good and watch. Guess what? Didn't work.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
Soccer sucks and only 9 % of the world cares about it! Less than 4% of Americans even watched the damn thing!
Exactly what 9% are you referring to?
The one thing about us americans, if we are not good at something, then it must suck. We suck as soccer, therefore, soccer sucks .....Oh well...



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
I love playing soccer, very challenging. Now watching it, the Sportscenter highlights are enough for me. Most of the guys who "train" on this site would die within the first 5 minutes of a soccer match. The USA was ranked 4th so that Americans would think they were good and watch. Guess what? Didn't work.
Dale, I think the rankings are rigged. I find it impossible for the US to be ranked ahead of Spain and Portugal. The fact of the matter is that, as someone mentioned earlier, they play in a creampuff group, the CONCACAF, which includes all of the countries in North, Central America and the Antillies. When you beat down powerhouses like Guatemala, Nicaragua and Haiti a few times, you get wins. Those are counted in the rankings, thus, a high ranking that is more smoke and mirrors than anything else. This team should be ranked more in the 30's, that's just my opinion....



Posted by: lnvanry

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Yes, I know, we have George W. that's enough humiliation for one day...
actually he sounded very well this week including today while in Austria.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnvanry
actually he sounded very well this week including today while in Austria.
I was kidding.....



Posted by: lnvanry

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Exactly what 9% are you referring to?
The one thing about us americans, if we are not good at something, then it must suck. We suck as soccer, therefore, soccer sucks .....Oh well...

that's right.

I don't understand the game...its so backwards in the evolutionary chain. No hands? We have our opposable thumbs for a reason. games that end it a tie are a joke anyways. Glad to see hockey evolved.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnvanry
that's right.

I don't understand the game...its so backwards in the evolutionary chain. No hands? We have our opposable thumbs for a reason. games that end it a tie are a joke anyways. Glad to see hockey evolved.




Posted by: Big Smoothy

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!
The U.S. population is close to 300 million.


Aceshigh:

In the U.S. there are many other sports that athletes play: baseball, NFL football, basketball, hockey, and other.

A lot of Americans also play individual sports like Golf and BodyBuilding, for example.


Football (soccer) is very popular through high school. After high school, there aren't a lot of options for athletes that play soccer, save a scholarship to a Uni. so the often switch their focus on another sports, or stop playing at the organized level.


World Cup:

The great thing about the world cup is that nobody really can call these games. The analysts, and commentators often can't pic a winner, nor can the fans.

Sudden death in the 2nd round: a team gets hot, good luck, bad calls, etc.



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Hi, just wondering....You guys have been to how many World Cups?
Australia barely beat a crappy Uruguay team to get in. Heck Uruguay lost to Venezuela twice, once shut out in URUGUAY. Who did you guys have to beat to "BARELY" get in?
Oh, and please, Australia was playing an 11 man defense against Brazil... Hell they were playing "Everyone get inside the Goal" defense and hope to God that Brazil plays bad defense to counter attack...
Stop talking out of your ass....
WHAT A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT!!!! did u even watch australia,s game against brazil???? 11 man defense wtf??? i can count 7 shots off the top of my head ,that australia had,,this is australia 2nd world cup and they were unlucky not to beat brazil and your giving them shit ,,you are a fucking tool,,at least we are in the round of 16 while your over populated shit hole of a country couldnt get off the bottom of there group,,get your facts straight your a fucking tool fucking dipshit american fuckwit,,australia could probably put together a gridiron team and kick your asses and per capita of people in the country vs medals in the olympics u fat lazy fucks dont stand a chance against this fine athletic country kiss my ass u yanky peice of shit!!!!



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu
The U.S. population is close to 300 million.


Aceshigh:

In the U.S. there are many other sports that athletes play: baseball, NFL football, basketball, hockey, and other.

A lot of Americans also play individual sports like Golf and BodyBuilding, for example.


Football (soccer) is very popular through high school. After high school, there aren't a lot of options for athletes that play soccer, save a scholarship to a Uni. so the often switch their focus on another sports, or stop playing at the organized level.


World Cup:

The great thing about the world cup is that nobody really can call these games. The analysts, and commentators often can't pic a winner, nor can the fans.

Sudden death in the 2nd round: a team gets hot, good luck, bad calls, etc.
thers some good point there 4sure,,,,im not saying australia will win ,,im just saying we have done well ,,but we will probably get beat by italy ,but at least we are in the last 32 of the cup



Posted by: IainDaniel

All I care about is Italy losing now



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
WHAT A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT!!!! did u even watch australia,s game against brazil???? 11 man defense wtf??? i can count 7 shots off the top of my head ,that australia had,,this is australia 2nd world cup and they were unlucky not to beat brazil and your giving them shit ,,you are a fucking tool,,at least we are in the round of 16 while your over populated shit hole of a country couldnt get off the bottom of there group,,get your facts straight your a fucking tool fucking dipshit american fuckwit,,australia could probably put together a gridiron team and kick your asses and per capita of people in the country vs medals in the olympics u fat lazy fucks dont stand a chance against this fine athletic country kiss my ass u yanky peice of shit!!!!
"is there anything you guys are good at??????????? go australia round of 16 here we come and we have 17 mill in this country how many in america 255mill god u guys are shit!!!!!"

Name calling, interesting.....
How old are you, 4? You can't have a normal conversation with someone because they don't agree with you?
I want you to tell me who you guys beat to get into the World Cup and yes, there were SEVEN shots on goal, all of them on counter attacks. Watch the game again kid. How long have you been watching soccer?
Another thing, I wasn't born in the US, in fact I was born in South America, where soccer is King so do me a favor and don't lecture me on soccer. I however, am also an american, so the venom you spew bothers me, even if you have said nothing intelligent while spewing.
By the way, while you were cursing and screaming, you never really addressed any of my points intelligently.
Another thing, I was not discrediting Australia, I LIKE AUSTRALIA. In fact, I was, and am rooting for them because I have a few buddies of mine who are australian. I was discrediting your comments because they are nothing more than crap rants. You came in insulting all americans because they lost in the World Cup. Do you really thing that americans give a crap about losing in the World Cup? Get real...
First half of the Brazil game, wide open game, why? Brazilians (and you can read this in the news) were afraid of playing Australia because they thought that Australia would come hitting and playing rough. Thus, wide open first half. Second half, Brazil played their game and Australia couldn't do much. I watched the game, oh, and by the way kid, I have played the game.
I'm happy Australia made it to the second round, because I know that most people over there are nice people. Unlike you, who comes in boasting and insulting everyone after BARELY getting into the second round, because don't give me crap about a win and a tie (World super powers Japan and the Czech republic.
Now, the only tool here is he who blows up because he can't have an intelligent conversation with someone else. You have no new information to give and in fact, I think that even continuing bothering with you is nothing more than an utter waste of my time and bandwith, so I am done with you, goodbye and good luck.
See? I made my points without looking or acting like a tool. Didn't call you any names....



Posted by: Adamjs

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Brazilians (and you can read this in the news) were afraid of playing Australia because they thought that Australia would come hitting and playing rough.
I agree totally - all of the teams are scared to play Australia. Hell I'd be scared to play Australia if I didn't know they were girly soccer players who I could kick the arse of merely by looking at.

The problem is that when you have a team that is slapped together at the last minute, that is made up of players who have never seen each other before, you have to physically beat the crap out of the opposition.

Let's face it, Australia isn't a team. The other teams cannot even analyse previous Australian games to work out tactics - because there are no previous games that this team has played. The same goes for America.

The only teams who have a hope of pulling it together for the world cup, as a team, are those who are always playing as a team - which is most of the top South American and European teams. The rest of the world's teams' are a fucking haphazard shambles who are likely to fire or implode at any moment.

Notwithstanding any of the abovementioned - more people watch the world cup than any other sporting event - shambles or no shambles it's keeping someone amused.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamjs
I agree totally - all of the teams are scared to play Australia. Hell I'd be scared to play Australia if I didn't know they were girly soccer players who I could kick the arse of merely by looking at.

The problem is that when you have a team that is slapped together at the last minute, that is made up of players who have never seen each other before, you have to physically beat the crap out of the opposition.

Let's face it, Australia isn't a team. The other teams cannot even analyse previous Australian games to work out tactics - because there are no previous games that this team has played. The same goes for America.

The only teams who have a hope of pulling it together for the world cup, as a team, are those who are always playing as a team - which is most of the top South American and European teams. The rest of the world's teams' are a fucking haphazard shambles who are likely to fire or implode at any moment.

Notwithstanding any of the abovementioned - more people watch the world cup than any other sporting event - shambles or no shambles it's keeping someone amused.
Great point, Austrailia is not really a team that you can scout or even prepare well for, so they can sneak up on you and bite you in the arse.

Aceshigh: I believe every team that made it to the World Cup, deserved to make it. Australia fielded a good team of good hard nosed players. They made it to the second round because they deserved to make it to the second round and they played well enough to make it. If they took 7 shots at goal at Brazil, good for them, they played hard and were simply outclassed by a very strong team of world class players, but Australia did more than hold it's own. I am happy that you are such a rabid fan of your team and applaud your passion, so I absolutely take back what I said because the reality is that my country's team didn't make it (Venezuela) and my american team (grossly overrated) got their asses handed to them thanks to a very conservative approach by their coach...
I don't want to fight, I'd rather go back and correct what I said and continue being. That's all I have.....Sounds good?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
but we will probably get beat by italy
You're right about one thing



Posted by: Pepper

Watching soccer is like watching paint dry. It may be more challenging endurance-wise, but american football is superior in every way. Even the officials, as bad as they were in the playoffs, were not a bad as they were in the World Cup.

I get soccer fans riled up when I say this, but soccer is the WORST thing to happen to American sports. Kids play it until they are 12 and then never play it again. In the meantime, it limits them in playing basketball, baseball or football.

I coach youth basketball, and anytime a kid tells me he is also playing soccer, I immediatly assume he will miss half the practices and 1/4 of the games.

I hate soccer.



Posted by: Pepper

The way that could make soccer more interesting is to make the field smaller, make it 5 on 5, cover the field with ice and make the players wear skates.



Posted by: Pepper

We don't win at the World Cup b/c we do not send our best atheletes. We send the best soccer players this country has to offer but out best athletes are playing other sports.



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Great point, Austrailia is not really a team that you can scout or even prepare well for, so they can sneak up on you and bite you in the arse.

Aceshigh: I believe every team that made it to the World Cup, deserved to make it. Australia fielded a good team of good hard nosed players. They made it to the second round because they deserved to make it to the second round and they played well enough to make it. If they took 7 shots at goal at Brazil, good for them, they played hard and were simply outclassed by a very strong team of world class players, but Australia did more than hold it's own. I am happy that you are such a rabid fan of your team and applaud your passion, so I absolutely take back what I said because the reality is that my country's team didn't make it (Venezuela) and my american team (grossly overrated) got their asses handed to them thanks to a very conservative approach by their coach...
I don't want to fight, I'd rather go back and correct what I said and continue being. That's all I have.....Sounds good?
yeah fine with me but they drew with croatia not the czech republic,,,it just pissed me off when it sounded like u were belittling australia when we have clearly done really well ,,i think i have every right to belittle the septic tanks (yanks ) as they did shite!!!!!!! i usually go for england so i have 2 teams to go for but the australian games have been better ,,go the socceroos ,,should be the footballroos



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamjs
I agree totally - all of the teams are scared to play Australia. Hell I'd be scared to play Australia if I didn't know they were girly soccer players who I could kick the arse of merely by looking at.

The problem is that when you have a team that is slapped together at the last minute, that is made up of players who have never seen each other before, you have to physically beat the crap out of the opposition.

Let's face it, Australia isn't a team. The other teams cannot even analyse previous Australian games to work out tactics - because there are no previous games that this team has played. The same goes for America.

The only teams who have a hope of pulling it together for the world cup, as a team, are those who are always playing as a team - which is most of the top South American and European teams. The rest of the world's teams' are a fucking haphazard shambles who are likely to fire or implode at any moment.

Notwithstanding any of the abovementioned - more people watch the world cup than any other sporting event - shambles or no shambles it's keeping someone amused.
all i'll say to this is that you know less than most , why even post on a soccer thread if u know nothing about it??



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Do you live in Australia Aces?



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
We don't win at the World Cup b/c we do not send our best atheletes. We send the best soccer players this country has to offer but out best athletes are playing other sports.
u would think though out of 250 million people there would be 11 absolute super star soccer players though,,and american sports are shit! especially baseball fark!



Posted by: Pepper

Baseball requires less athletic ability but much more skill than soccer.

I like baseball, but I can understand why others think it is boring.



Posted by: shiznit2169

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
Watching soccer is like watching paint dry. It may be more challenging endurance-wise, but american football is superior in every way. Even the officials, as bad as they were in the playoffs, were not a bad as they were in the World Cup.

I get soccer fans riled up when I say this, but soccer is the WORST thing to happen to American sports. Kids play it until they are 12 and then never play it again. In the meantime, it limits them in playing basketball, baseball or football.

I coach youth basketball, and anytime a kid tells me he is also playing soccer, I immediatly assume he will miss half the practices and 1/4 of the games.

I hate soccer.

That is so true. My friends and I used to play soccer when we were growing up and then by the time we reached 5th grade (12 years old), we switched over to football. Soccer is fun when you're a kid but once you get older, it gets boring and it's not as popular. Football is more fun, challenging and more people follow the games.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
u would think though out of 250 million people there would be 11 absolute super star soccer players though,,and american sports are shit! especially baseball fark!

Let's see, make $5 million a year playing football, or make $45,000 a year playing soccer, you do the math.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
I get soccer fans riled up when I say this, but soccer is the WORST thing to happen to American sports. Kids play it until they are 12 and then never play it again. In the meantime, it limits them in playing basketball, baseball or football.

I coach youth basketball, and anytime a kid tells me he is also playing soccer, I immediatly assume he will miss half the practices and 1/4 of the games.

I hate soccer.
I can see what you are saying, but I thought the point of getting kids involved in sports is to teach them the value of teamwork, working within a system of rules, and getting them active. Since when is the purpose of youth sports programs to groom kids for professional sports careers?

That said, I wouldn't let my kids play soccer if I had any. I'd want my kids of play sports where padding and equipment are involved instead of just running around chasing a ball.

The sports junkie in me has been enjoying watching the World Cup games though. I want to see England win so we can see the rioters burn England to the ground. Once the World Cup is over, I'll go back to not giving two shits about soccer.



Posted by: Pepper

Yeah, I remember the kicker from Georgia Kevin Butler was a STUD soccer player. Could have been a star, but chose to kick in the NFL. Chose to be a place-kicker in the NFL over a star in soccer...that's says alot about the state of soccer in the US.



Posted by: JordanMang

My cousin is major into soccer. He's got tons and tons of Div 1 offers already. He was named the #1 player in Dallas div play, and in Texas. He's in the JR. Olympics and all that. He's going into his SR year and he's already an allstar. I asked him why he quit football ( cause he was pretty talented at that too ) and he told me it was to rough on him.



Posted by: Adamjs

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
all i'll say to this is that you know less than most , why even post on a soccer thread if u know nothing about it??
You have to be either joking or are totally clueless.
And I posted because I saw you were the last to post at the time and figured there'd be something funny going on in the thread - because coherency and you don't exactly go hand in hand.

You my friend are arguing a mute point. You are comparing one shit team from a country that doesn't care to another shit team from a country that doesn't care. And all of the per person things in the world don't really make up for the fact that football/soccer, call it what you will, is not a mainstream professional sport in Australia/America. Hence, both national teams are made up at the last minute and thrown up against nations who are having international matches all the time. Hell - Australia has only had their coach for four (4) months! The previous coach was caretaker coach, the previous coach didn't even draw a wage.

Sorry if i am be-littling the professionalism of a team who aren't a team - but it's the damn truth.



Posted by: topolo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
Let's see, make $5 million a year playing football, or make $45,000 a year playing soccer, you do the math.
will you loan me a calculator?



Posted by: devildog88

Soccer sucks! The kids that play it have a shitty work ethic and would rather smoke dope. Oh and by the way none of the little pussies will lift weights. As a football coach I hate soccer players!



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
yeah fine with me but they drew with croatia not the czech republic,,,it just pissed me off when it sounded like u were belittling australia when we have clearly done really well ,,i think i have every right to belittle the septic tanks (yanks ) as they did shite!!!!!!! i usually go for england so i have 2 teams to go for but the australian games have been better ,,go the socceroos ,,should be the footballroos
No man, no team can be belittled when they make it to the World Cup, I was just giving you a little trash too. I mean, you laid it pretty hard on everyone else out there, not just the soccer team, so I just wanted to give it right back......

The reality is that the US is not a soccer country, Pepper is a prime example of it. He doesn't like it, that's it. It's boring to most of us (not me). Look at the changes he would make. Make the field smaller and 5 against 5. Purists like me would say "WHAT????", but most Americans think this way.. We "Yanks" need sports that are edge of your seat, nail biting and violent, we call it American Football, you call yours Australian Rules Football (at least that's what ESPN used to call it).

Regarding soccer, the play here is primitive and defensive. The only way that they can get out of the rut they are in is buy hiring a dutch, brazilian, german or english coach. Arenas is an embarrassment and Landon Donovan does not belong out there. They need to get newer faces and they need to get out of the MLS and play in Europe, South America, heck, even Australia

I think there should have been someone else other than McBride attacking. Donovan I haven't liked since I was watching the Miami Fusion play Chicago for the final a few years ago. All he was good at was diving in the area and drawing fouls. That he doesn't want to play in Europe anymore? Are we sure they actually want him there.

Regarding Australia, you are absolutely right, they tied Croatia. However, grant me this, the outcome of their going into the second round was a bit in doubt. Tell me you weren't sweating a little bit when Croatia was ahead. C'mon now, don't lie now....

Ayway, now comes the fun, LOSE AND GO HOME from now on. I think we'll see better futbol (Soccer) there. Don't you think?



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
Soccer sucks! The kids that play it have a shitty work ethic and would rather smoke dope. Oh and by the way none of the little pussies will lift weights. As a football coach I hate soccer players!
I played football, coached football, played soccer, coached soccer.
I love them both. However, you can be a fatass like me and be a superstar football player (Large percentage of Linemen). Poor work ethic? Impossible. When you have poor work ethic, you can't possibly play soccer. You would not be able to play 10 minutes.
You are entitled to your opinion and to hate soccer if you want, but don't talk out of your ass and say soccer players have "shitty work ethic" as if it were a fact. It just sounds silly.

Also, soccer players are dopers? Have you not heard about football players and dope? Ricky Williams? The Minnessota Running Back with the WIzzinator (His name escapes me)?Are you joking? There are no bigger dopers than football players, and I don't blame them. Their bodies go thru collisions that would destroy normal people. They live in pain and a large percentage die young. They can smoke all the dope they want....

Peace...



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
Let's see, make $5 million a year playing football, or make $45,000 a year playing soccer, you do the math.
I disagree here Dale, maybe here and Asia, do soccer players make $45K a year, but in Europe and South America, they make millions, on top of millions. These guys can make $10- $20 mill a year. Of course, they have to be really good....THey do not know what a salary cap is and the stadiums are always full of 100's of 1000's of people, every game, no matter when or where....

That's all I have for now....



Posted by: Adamjs

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Ayway, now comes the fun, LOSE AND GO HOME from now on. I think we'll see better futbol (Soccer) there. Don't you think?
It should be good now there's only the top 16 left. Only trouble is that it is all played in the middle of the night here.



Posted by: goob

Yup, Ivanry
its called George W Bush and it blazes a trail of destruction and mocking laughter to all other countries in the world.......



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
Watching soccer is like watching paint dry. It may be more challenging endurance-wise, but american football is superior in every way. Even the officials, as bad as they were in the playoffs, were not a bad as they were in the World Cup.

I get soccer fans riled up when I say this, but soccer is the WORST thing to happen to American sports. Kids play it until they are 12 and then never play it again. In the meantime, it limits them in playing basketball, baseball or football.

I coach youth basketball, and anytime a kid tells me he is also playing soccer, I immediatly assume he will miss half the practices and 1/4 of the games.

I hate soccer.




Posted by: min0 lee

Can anyone name a popular Soccer player? And I do mean a current one, not Pele or Maradona or even that girl who took her shirt off.

There was a skit on David Letterman about Soccer and he wasa trying to name them but he couldn't figure out who these players were. Shheesh Your head is covered in football and your still well known.

Maybe I would like or accept Soccer more if people would stop shoving it down my throat.



Posted by: min0 lee

Volley ball has more excitement.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
Can anyone name a popular Soccer player? And I do mean a current one, not Pele or Maradona or even that girl who took her shirt off.

There was a skit on David Letterman about Soccer and he wasa trying to name them but he couldn't figure out who these players were. Shheesh Your head is covered in football and your still well known.

Maybe I would like or accept Soccer more if people would stop shoving it down my throat.
Sure, I'll help ya....

Figo, Beckham, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka, Ballak, Robinho, Figueiredo, Zidane, Henry, Marquez, Borgetti, Messi, Tevez, Adu, Donovan, Pimpong (Just learned this yesterday), etc.....

I don't believe that a sport should be shoved down anyone's throat. In fact, hell, it's kinda' like religion or politics. I don't want anyone shoving that up my throat.
I say enjoy your volleyball and I'll watch the World Cup....(I like volleyball too, but I like playing it more than watching it....)



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Sure, I'll help ya....

Figo, Beckham, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka, Ballak, Robinho, Figueiredo, Zidane, Henry, Marquez, Borgetti, Messi, Tevez, Adu, Donovan, Pimpong (Just learned this yesterday), etc..... Never heard of them.

I don't believe that a sport should be shoved down anyone's throat. In fact, hell, it's kinda' like religion or politics. I don't want anyone shoving that up my throat. Soccer fans take their sport way to serious
I say enjoy your volleyball and I'll watch the World Cup....(I like volleyball too, but I like playing it more than watching it....)
I just can never forget watching a simpson episode where everyone was eager to watch soccer...well after about 5 hours of watching the ball go back and forth, back and forth..ZZZzzzzzZZZzzzz everyone fell asleep..but then suddenly there was a riot in the stands! That's when it became entertaining.



Posted by: min0 lee

Isn't Beckman a female?



Posted by: min0 lee

I finally found half of the episode.

Here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-E6w...psons%20soccer



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
I just can never forget watching a simpson episode where everyone was eager to watch soccer...well after about 5 hours of watching the ball go back and forth, back and forth..ZZZzzzzzZZZzzzz everyone fell asleep..but then suddenly there was a riot in the stands! That's when it became entertaining.
Haha I remember that one. Barney flips out when his beer spills and runs down the stairs knockin through everyone.



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Haha I remember that one. Barney flips out when his beer spills and runs down the stairs knockin through everyone.
That's the one! Funny as heck.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
That's the one! Funny as heck.




Posted by: devildog88

Soccer sucks! All of my references are from personal experience. When I say soccer players have shitty work ethic I mean in the town I live, when I say they are dope smokers, I mean in the town where I coach, when I say they don't lift, well once again I am making reference to the long haired dope smoking lazy pieces of shit in my neck of the woods. Soccer is a recreational sport that is well suited for little children. They all have fun because they can each take turns kicking the ball and in the end if the score is zero to zero everyone is happy and they live happily ever after! Just like the "no child left behind act"



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
Soccer sucks! All of my references are from personal experience. When I say soccer players have shitty work ethic I mean in the town I live, when I say they are dope smokers, I mean in the town where I coach, when I say they don't lift, well once again I am making reference to the long haired dope smoking lazy pieces of shit in my neck of the woods. Soccer is a recreational sport that is well suited for little children. They all have fun because they can each take turns kicking the ball and in the end if the score is zero to zero everyone is happy and they live happily ever after! Just like the "no child left behind act"
Fair enough. I am not going to be the asshole trying to push soccer to the masses, hell I don't make any money out of it. You've got your opinion, I got mine...no winners here...



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamjs
You have to be either joking or are totally clueless.
And I posted because I saw you were the last to post at the time and figured there'd be something funny going on in the thread - because coherency and you don't exactly go hand in hand.

You my friend are arguing a mute point. You are comparing one shit team from a country that doesn't care to another shit team from a country that doesn't care. And all of the per person things in the world don't really make up for the fact that football/soccer, call it what you will, is not a mainstream professional sport in Australia/America. Hence, both national teams are made up at the last minute and thrown up against nations who are having international matches all the time. Hell - Australia has only had their coach for four (4) months! The previous coach was caretaker coach, the previous coach didn't even draw a wage.

Sorry if i am be-littling the professionalism of a team who aren't a team - but it's the damn truth.
why to u keep saying the australian team has just been thrown together in the last minuite what are u talking about it doesnt make sense,, thats what made me think u were full of shit



Posted by: aceshigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasma62
No man, no team can be belittled when they make it to the World Cup, I was just giving you a little trash too. I mean, you laid it pretty hard on everyone else out there, not just the soccer team, so I just wanted to give it right back......

The reality is that the US is not a soccer country, Pepper is a prime example of it. He doesn't like it, that's it. It's boring to most of us (not me). Look at the changes he would make. Make the field smaller and 5 against 5. Purists like me would say "WHAT????", but most Americans think this way.. We "Yanks" need sports that are edge of your seat, nail biting and violent, we call it American Football, you call yours Australian Rules Football (at least that's what ESPN used to call it).

Regarding soccer, the play here is primitive and defensive. The only way that they can get out of the rut they are in is buy hiring a dutch, brazilian, german or english coach. Arenas is an embarrassment and Landon Donovan does not belong out there. They need to get newer faces and they need to get out of the MLS and play in Europe, South America, heck, even Australia

I think there should have been someone else other than McBride attacking. Donovan I haven't liked since I was watching the Miami Fusion play Chicago for the final a few years ago. All he was good at was diving in the area and drawing fouls. That he doesn't want to play in Europe anymore? Are we sure they actually want him there.

Regarding Australia, you are absolutely right, they tied Croatia. However, grant me this, the outcome of their going into the second round was a bit in doubt. Tell me you weren't sweating a little bit when Croatia was ahead. C'mon now, don't lie now....

Ayway, now comes the fun, LOSE AND GO HOME from now on. I think we'll see better futbol (Soccer) there. Don't you think?
fuck yeah i was sweating lol,,but edge of your seat nail biting and violent gridiron u gotta be kiddin 3 seconds of play then its all high fives and shit for the next 3minuites then another 3 seconds of play,,u want violence watch old state of origin rugby league matches 130kg guys having an all in brawl and they dont wear those poxy helmets and shoulder pads,,dont get me started on base ball fuck that shits boring!,,basketball would be your best sport i dont really like that either
any fuck these sports,,,,go the socceroos against the iti,s slimey bastards they are



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceshigh
fuck yeah i was sweating lol,,but edge of your seat nail biting and violent gridiron u gotta be kiddin 3 seconds of play then its all high fives and shit for the next 3minuites then another 3 seconds of play,,u want violence watch old state of origin rugby league matches 130kg guys having an all in brawl and they dont wear those poxy helmets and shoulder pads,,dont get me started on base ball fuck that shits boring!,,basketball would be your best sport i dont really like that either
any fuck these sports,,,,go the socceroos against the iti,s slimey bastards they are
Sorry my friend, we have no access to "old state of origin rugby league matches" By the way, I played rugby while in college. We would play one weekend rugby, another weekend tackle football. Maybe that's why I am so amazingly fucked up today
Well, good luck today, Italy hasn't shown me much so we'll have to see....



Posted by: IainDaniel

PK in the 95th minute to win

Italy 1-0



Posted by: Pepper

Was the PK a good call?



Posted by: Pepper

I got a new HDTV this weekend and in my effort to watch ANYTHING in HD, I watched Mexico and Argentina.

Soccer is not as boring as I said, but it is boring. Scoring is just way too low. If most NFL games were 7-7 at the end of regulation, the NFL would not be as popular.

Also, letting the defender determine what is offsides is NUTS. There needs to be a rule like hockey has that does not rely on the position of the defense for this call. Maybe one of you soccer nuts can explain why they let the defense determine where the offense can set up.



Posted by: fantasma62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
Was the PK a good call?
Nop, ref bungled the call. Right outside of the goal area, there was a foul not called, otherwise, give the Oscar to the Italian guy.
By the way, I really didin't care who won, so don't ya'll be accusing me of going against one or the other...
This is only my opinion, but the game should have gone into PK's








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