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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I did 3cc's in my quads for years and it never gave me any problems....3cc's for quads or glutes is fine. Sounds like you have some bad stuff or possibly an infection.
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
shouldn't 750mgs be 4.5cc?
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
shouldn't 750mgs be 4.5cc?
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I did 3cc's in my quads for years and it never gave me any problems....3cc's for quads or glutes is fine. Sounds like you have some bad stuff or possibly an infection.
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Originally Posted by Trouble
Height, weight, natural somatype (body type), years of training. How well do your legs respond to training? Have you injected in this area frequently? How long has this test series been going on?
See, here's my thinking: As was astutely pointed out, if the muscle mass isn't considerable, it just might be that your dose is sufficiently large to saturate not only the androgen receptors, but also nuclear receptors that hit up the immune response. You swamped the wrong receptor with signal and you got your ping all right, right down in the knee where you artial circulation moved that slug of steroid, and aggravated the connective tissue in that joint. If this is the case, dividing the dose into smaller volume injections, within the same muscle, isn't going to solve the problem. Perhaps a little creative problem solving is warranted. What do we add at the same time, to keep these other receptors from being hit so hard? Something transderma, applied maybe an hour or two before injectionl. A combination of locally acting agents that hit up these inflammation response/immune regulating local receptors and forestall this unfortunate side effect. Or, you might just try dropping the dose down; thats the most expedient and straightforward means of solving this problem. While the immediate effect of test is local, its carried by peripheral circulation throughout the body. But at first, its present at high enough concentrations to cause this unwanted secondary receptor activation. And this is the cause of the effect. DG, it could be the solvent, but I rather think its the test concentration thats the culprit. I will take up this issue, think through it, and get back to you. |
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Originally Posted by Mudge
That would make it 166mg/ml, an oddball number. Upjohn cypionate is 200mg/ml, otherwise most stuff is 250 or higher.
I have shot 3cc damn near anywhere a needle has gone in my body, I dont like quad shots, but that aside 3cc of volume has never bothered me anywhere I have shot gear. This is not high volume to me unless you have very small bodyparts, like a very small bicep and you were doing frequent shots. Some people do 5cc in larger muscles, I am not suggesting just pointing this out. |
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Originally Posted by franco9112
For future reference; do you guys think I should stick to glute shots with high doses of test or break it downt to twice a week injections and continue rotating sites? I certainly won't be able to hit spots like the calf with a high does if it causes my quad so much pain. Thanks for the remarks.
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Originally Posted by Trouble
Lesson: skip the larger dose, try a smaller one, 'ere you repeat this debacle.
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I hear an echo!
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Originally Posted by dg806
More than likely it was the solvent in it.
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Originally Posted by Trouble
Look for a faint cloudiness in the test vial, if you still have it; it might be a clue.
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