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Posted by: ALBOB

Don't even think about making any weedeater jokes.



Posted by: ALBOB

Look ma, no hair.



Posted by: ALBOB

Trying to make something other than my skull thick.



Posted by: ALBOB

You thought they had destroyed the mold but NOOOOOOO, they made it BIGGER and BETTER!!!!!



Posted by: Twin Peak

Excellent. And the race begins. Love the final, just now you need the end picture the same!



Posted by: craig777

LMAO, Oh that is too much. Someone pick me up off the floor. That is great. Super Albob battles Super Pitboss.

I love it.



Posted by: ALBOB

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 240
BF%: In the neighborhood of 20%. (I have an appointment to get measured next Wednesday, I'll post the real number then.)

Lifts:
I don't benchpress. Incline DB press: 120's for 6
Squat: 405 for 5
Deadlift: 445 for 5

This is my first journal so I reserve the right to make up the rules as I go along. The only rule I have now applies to Miss LeDix: Each and every time you make a post in my journal you HAVE to say something pornal!!!



Posted by: kuso

OH MY FUCKING GOD....

I can`t believe you wen`t and did that last shot

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Looking good....thick and nice traps



Posted by: dvlmn666

ohhhh shiat, now we have super albob now roflmao

dude, cool. I'll put up pix this afternoon.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Hi ALBOB! Love the fourth pics...love all the pics!

But wait, I'm an unbiased judge. What I am saying???



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix What I am saying???
I know what you DIDN'T say. Scroll up and read the rules here young lady.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Ooops, I missed a very important thing in here...


ALBOB, thanks for starting this journal. I love the pics. I can't wait to see pics of your HARD, STIFF, THROBBING....








quads!



Posted by: ALBOB

OUTSTANDING!!! You're a natural Miss LeDix.
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Now go change your sig. (Oh if only Irontime were here to see this. )



Posted by: esmerelda

LMAO........a new super hero joins us!!!!!!!!!!! Tell me Super Albabe`...does your wife know about your secret other life???? Hold on....Im not supposed to be talking to you!!!! Ahhhhh.. what can I say....you havent seen my pics yet!!!!!

Come to think of it.....I too have a lovely blue blankie.....



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda Come to think of it.....I too have a lovely blue blankie.....
Just remember that fair is fair, you're only allowed that lovely blue blankie and some biking shorts. NOTHING else.



Posted by: esmerelda

Bwaahhhaaahhaaa....not in this life time!!!!!!! Too many battle scars for the average Joe to see...... Hell even my poor belly button looks like its had a hard life...come to think about it..it has been under the knife twice...and neither one being plastic surgery!!!! You'll just have to put up with boobie shots...think you can handle those?????



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda You'll just have to put up with boobie shots...think you can handle those?????
The boobies? The shots? Or both?

(I know I can handle shots. I'd LIKE to handle those boobies. BOTH? Hell yeah, bring 'em on!!!)



Posted by: ZECH

Super A!!! Now that made my day! Thanks ALBOB! and Miss D....well you have done it now!!!!! No turning back! Welcome to the dark side!!



Posted by: craig777

OK, I want to ask Super Albob a question. What is a tome? Were you trying to say tomb of the unknown. Just can't figure out what a tome is.



Posted by: ALBOB

American Heritage Dictionary; Second Collegiate Eddition

tome: A large or scholarly book.

I'm anticipating this thread will get rather large and since it is MY thread I KNOW it will be scholarly.



Posted by: craig777

Well done, I must say. That is very well done. I am impressed.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

where IS PB? I can't believe he hasn't seen that yet. Oh..oh...oh Dvlmn, I think you should don a towel...uh cape too!!



Posted by: craig777

Quote:
Originally posted by Fitgirl70

I think you should don a towel
Freudian slip of the keyboard there.



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
You thought they had destroyed the mold but NOOOOOOO, they made it BIGGER and BETTER!!!!!
Oh My Gawd - this is awsome!!!

I think every participant has to provide this picture... and the cape is NOT optional!

This is just too cute!



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
Lifts:
I don't benchpress. Incline DB press: 120's for 6
Squat: 405 for 5
Deadlift: 445 for 5
Kraklin' Krispy Kreeme's Batman.. you could bench ME... probably most of us for that matter!



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


Just remember that fair is fair, you're only allowed that lovely blue blankie and some biking shorts. NOTHING else.
Hay, I'll PLAY!! Once I get my camera, I'll do it. AND I have a blue blanket!!

This is gonna be fun!!



Posted by: ALBOB

OK, I've just come up with the SECOND rule of ALBOB's journal. Sosunni is NEVER allowed to leave!!!

Bench press you? I think we'll need to verify, don't you?

Oh, by the way, again my mind has been working on a bit of a time delay so I need to reply to something you posted in the original Challenge thread. You'll turn 39 on July 24th? Here's the deal: On the 24th you get to un-wrap me and on the 30th I get to un-wrap you. PARTYYYYYYYYY!!!!!



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
OK, I've just come up with the SECOND rule of ALBOB's journal. Sosunni is NEVER allowed to leave!!!

Bench press you? I think we'll need to verify, don't you?

Oh, by the way, again my mind has been working on a bit of a time delay so I need to reply to something you posted in the original Challenge thread. You'll turn 39 on July 24th? Here's the deal: On the 24th you get to un-wrap me and on the 30th I get to un-wrap you. PARTYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Damn, I've been dickin' around here for the last hour.. and I got work to do before the Mexican Hat Dance starts at 3 - Margarita anyone!?

As far as the unwraping... would you make up your damn mind!? Am I a PRIZE for the winner our your PRESENT on your birthday.


I'll give ya' something to unwrap alright.....



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Sosunni Am I a PRIZE for the winner our your PRESENT on your birthday.
You really are blonde, aren't you? (I'll still require VISUAL proof.)

What the hell do you mean "or"? You're BOTH. And I get to be the lucky recipient.



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB

You really are blonde, aren't you? (I'll still require VISUAL proof.)

What the hell do you mean "or"? You're BOTH. And I get to be the lucky recipient.
Careful cubcake.. you could get a picture of some eyebrows if you're not careful!




Posted by: Pitboss

All I have to say is................






























Oh Duncan!!!!!!!! LOL



Posted by: Miss LeDix

I got lost on that last joke, but oh well.

ALBOB, like Sosunni said, you sure do squat and deadlift quite a lot of wieght. Very impressive.

Oh yeah, one more thing....







SEX!!!



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by Pitboss
All I have to say is................

Come on PB - Spill it... what's Duncan all about...
































Oh Duncan!!!!!!!! LOL




Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
I got lost on that last joke, but oh well.

ALBOB, like Sosunni said, you sure do squat and deadlift quite a lot of wieght. Very impressive.

Oh yeah, one more thing....
SEX!!!
Good girl.. good to see you're holding up the deal.



Posted by: w8lifter

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh damn, PB....you're so right! And I right clicked, saved as just for the occasion!!!



Posted by: Dero

Somebody PLEASE help me off the floor!!!
Super Albooby...
I can't breath!!!SMPROTFLMAO!!!Huff,huff,huff...
What are you trying to do???
Kill me???
You are just too much,great pic!!!
The one of the Super STUDD!!!!
How did you manage to keep a straight face for that long???




Posted by: ALBOB

What's everybody laughing at?



Posted by: ALBOB

6:00 AM-45 minutes Spinning followed by a shake.

(In the future when I say shake I'll be talking about 12 oz. water, 4 whole eggsand 40 grams whey protein powder.)



Posted by: dvlmn666

what kinda protein powder you takin dude? I found some I really like but it's to dang expensive.



Posted by: Jenny

Hey ALBOB! YOU started a journal!?? I thought your job was to pornalise everyone elses.. Good luck with the challenge!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Nike_Girl I thought your job was to pornalise everyone elses..
You're right, that IS my job. This is more of a hobby.

dvlman, the last protein I got was from Optimum nutrition. I pretty much just get whatever's cheapest. I don't rely on a single source but like to vary my proteins throughout the day. What is it you got that you like so much?



Posted by: dvlmn666

the new ISSA PRO M3. The chocolate even tastes good using water instead of milk. I was thinking about getting a tub of the Optimum Nutrition stuff as well, and then switch back and forth between the two just for variation. And to save some cash.



Posted by: ALBOB

Saving $$$ is what I'm all about. I use whey protein because it's "supposed" to be the best. Really I don't see that much difference between the different kinds. Like I said before, variety is more important; milk, egg, meat, veggie.



Posted by: kuso

ALBOB......you don`t seem to have very many carbs in that pwo drink.............any reason for this?



Posted by: ALBOB

I'm experimenting with a variation of the Atkin's diet. Very high protein and fat, almost zero carbs. Three months from now you'll be able to see for yourself if it worked.



Posted by: kuso

Unless you end up like Dr A himself....with a heart attack j/k ( though maybe a sik j/k )

Anyway, are you still taking the creatine with that pwo shake or have you stopped to drop some water weight too?



Posted by: ALBOB

The zero carbs is only for the first couple of weeks to get the body into the fat burning mode then I'll up the carbs to a reasonable level.

I'm off Creatine for a couple of weeks and using 10 grams of Glutamine a day. (5 in the morning and 5 at night.) Then I'll switch back to 5 each of Glutamine and Creatine for a month. A back and forth cycle at gopro's suggestion. I'm not planning on getting so lean that water weight will be a problem. As a matter of fact, I want as much water as possible so I don't start looking like a shriveld up old man. I'm currently at 240 with aprox. 20% BF so I'm figuring if I drop 12 lbs of fat that will bring me in around 10%. (Ficticiously not losing any muscle.) 6'1" 228 lbs at 10% BF, I think that should be good enough to win an enchanted evening with the lovely Esmerelda and Sosunni. (Yes, I'm a greedy bastard.)



Posted by: kuso

Sounds like a plan to me.....good luck with it

Something I was meaning to ask you way back when we were discussing creatine in Miss P`s thread at MM.com, was......do you take it only on workout days or every day?



Posted by: ALBOB

I've never done the loading phase with Creatine but I do take it and/or Glutamine every day.



Posted by: kuso

I`ve tried both ways and have concluded ( in my case anyway so save the flames ) that loading is BS.

I`ve always taken both everyday, though after reading LAM often say you only need it on workout days I`ve given it a shot, and aren`t too happy with the results so far Think every day is the way to go.



Posted by: ALBOB

Every tried Glutamine. After reading a couple of posts by gopro I decided to give it a try and like the results VERY much.



Posted by: kuso

Oh yeah, I love glutamine.....if for no other reason than it seems to stop me from catching colds etc............seem to recover a little quicker too.



Posted by: ALBOB

Back day, still using a pseudo HIT routine

BB Rows: worked up to two max sets of 225 lbs X 15 then 9

(I use higher reps on rows because I feel it better in my lats.)

Deadlifts: worked up to two max sets of 445 lbs X 5 then 3

Chins: body weight X 15, 12, 7

Preacher Curls: two max sets of 80 lbs X 14 then 8



Posted by: ALBOB

Well boys and girls, seems I'm a bit further away from my goal than originally thought. Just got measured using the neck and waist method and came in at 21+%. No problem, just a little more incentive to kick myself in my fat ass and keep choking down this bowl of tuna. Yummmmmmm.



Posted by: dvlmn666

yeah i'm eating tuna today to hate the stuff but didn't feel like cooking up food this week.



Posted by: ALBOB

Actually I love tuna salad. Unfortunately I can't use the GOOD ingredients to make it.



Posted by: dvlmn666

yeah with mayo and the rest of the good stuff I like it to. But plain it just gets to me.

But hey it's good protein so we can cut the fat and keep the muscle we've earned.

You gonna do the 6 meals a day? I lost weight with just changing to that, and drinking lots and lots of water.



Posted by: ALBOB

Counting my shakes as meals I already do five. Yeah, I'm gonna try to make that six. My biggest weakness is water. I know how much I need it but I can't stand the stuff. I can tollerate it if I add a squirt of lemon juice but even then I just get damn tired of trying to force it into my body. Between forcing myself to drink more water and changing WHAT is in the meals that aren't shakes I should drop fat as fast as Bill Clinton drops his pants.



Posted by: dvlmn666

after a while it becomes habbit. I'm up to almost 8 liters a day. Lucky I work at a small company were it'snot a prob if your not at your desk all the time lmao.

That's cool, I count my shakes as meals to.



Posted by: esmerelda

Ahhhh...tuna salad!!! Add a bit of chilli sauce....not a problem.... I like things hot and spicey!!!!!

I have the same problem with drinking water....only way I can do it is if its icy cold....then its not a problem!!!!! errrmmmm actually it is...I now have the cleanest kidneys in the state!!! 21% body fat eh?????? Lmao....about 15% you'll never get rid of Albob darlin'....unless your misses does a "Bobbit" on you after she catches us three in that hotel room together!!!!!!



Posted by: craig777

Hey Albob,

The ladies have challenged and said that they are going to win. I think that we should have a challenge within a challenge of boys against girls, and if the girls lose they have to supply some pics.

I know that we can do it, I would never want to be beaten by any girl.


Just teasing ladies.



Posted by: esmerelda

Ohhhh...Im sure!!!!!!



Posted by: craig777

Albob, you are going to have to take over. I have to leave for Wichita KS. Ya'll have fun and see you next Monday.

P.S. Don't let the women push you around just because they are gorgeous. Stand your ground.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by craig777 P.S. Don't let the women push you around just because they are gorgeous. Stand your ground.
I'll let them do a LOT of things to me because they're gorgeous but I will NOT let them win.

P.S. Esmerelda dear, that 15% you referred to is not fat, it's pure muscle.


Note to all: Sorry folks, I'm outta here until Monday. Have some unpleasant family business to take care of. This is the ONE chance you're all going to get to jump into the lead. Come Monday it's full speed ahead to the New and Improved Super ALBOB.



Posted by: Sosunni

Albob, hope it goes well - whatever it is.

I won't be around this weekend so I won't get TOO far a-head of you... (uhh hh I said head)





Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Sosunni (uhh hh I said head)
Ya' know, I was seriously thinking of imposing the same rule on you in my journal that I imposed on Miss LeDix..............thankfully it's obviously NOT neccessary.

I probably should have titled it "The PORNAL tome of the unknowns."



Posted by: esmerelda

LMAO....Albob...over here the slang for your impressive member is often referred to as "crackin' a fat"!!!! So I do believe that I am correct!!!!! And since your not here to growl at me.....did I say 15%....sorry lets make it 20%!!!!!!!



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


Ya' know, I was seriously thinking of imposing the same rule on you in my journal that I imposed on Miss LeDix..............thankfully it's obviously NOT neccessary.

I probably should have titled it "The PORNAL tome of the unknowns."
No babe, it's not necessary...we're talking about ME here!



Posted by: esmerelda

Soooo...you had the weekend off...you've been a bad boy.... so why havent you let us know just how bad you've been???!!!! I promise if you've been really really bad ...... I'll spank you with a soggy celery stick!!!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

I worked out last Tuesday (already posted) and that's been it for the gym until my spinning class this morning. Food? Was I bad? OH MY DEAR GOD did I eat!!!!! We stayed with some cousins in Albuquerque, New Mexico that I didn't even know I had. Every time I walk in the door they were trying to shove food down my throat. I fought it for the first couple of hours and then gave in for the rest of the weekend. It was SOOOOOO good!!! Oh well, guess I'll just get a slightly later start than the rest of you, you need the head start anyway. Spank me? When?



Posted by: Sosunni

From what I can tell, none of us were good this weekdnd... I'm not sure about Craig or not yet...

OK - SO... lets all climb back up on Sosun,... I mean the wagon and get this train moving!

I hit the gym this morning and I NEVER do Mondays.

So.. boobilicious... was everything ok this weekend?

Glad you're back... i missed you!



Posted by: ALBOB

Under the circumstances it was a beautiful weekend. The weather in Albuquerque was PERFECT and all my grandmothers friends and relatives were able to be there. We weren't sure about some of the frineds who don't travel well but she was loved very much so they toughed it out and made the trip. In an absolutely amazing coincidence the pastor who performed the ceremony at the cemetary knew her from years ago and was able to tell some wonderful stories about her life. He was great and it all went very well. Funerals are bad enough without making them worse with a depressing sermon but he made everybody leave with a smile on their face.

Since I wasn't able to get any cardio in I noticed you said something about "climbing back on Sosunni." That sounds like my kind of cardio.



Posted by: craig777

I was bad this weekend also. Had two pieces of Lemon Marange (don't know how to spell that) pie yesterday.

Quote:
Originally posted by Albob

Since I wasn't able to get any cardio in I noticed you said something about "climbing back on Sosunni." That sounds like my kind of cardio.
Oh man, I will second that.


Sorry to hear about your grandmother Albob. I don't have any grandparents alive anymore. I sure am not looking forward to my mom or dad passing away.



Posted by: ALBOB

All I can say it make sure EVERYTHING is taken care of before hand. Makes things a lot less stressful in an already stressful situation.



Posted by: ALBOB

BACK

BB Rows: 225 X 20&15 then a drop set of 185 X 20

Deadlifts: 445 X 6&5

No chins today.......Because I didn't feel like it damnit!!!

Preacher curls: 70 X 20, 12 and 8 (Went lighter today just for a change)



Posted by: Miss LeDix

What is going on here? Only 1 post in this journal for today? You've been too busy 'cackling' with the ladies to pay attention to your own journal....











Blow Job!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
What is going on here? Only 1 post in this journal for today? You've been too busy 'cackling' with the ladies to pay attention to your own journal....
You don't spend enough time in here for it to hold my interest. I go where the fun is.

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix Blow Job!
Ahhhhhhhh................THANK YOU!!!!!!



Posted by: esmerelda

Ok you started this......just how far are we into it....when will the mid way be.....and how the hell are you going????? Are you still dreaming about those donuts??????



Posted by: craig777

As near as I can tell it has only been two weeks, my word women are impatient creatures aren't they.

If it is 3 months long then the middle of June would be half way.



Posted by: esmerelda

Not wrong...........I want it all........and I want it NOW!!!!!!! But at a push I'll be happy to settle for next week!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Ah Craig, my saviour. I don't think I could have been that diplomatic in answering her IMPATIENT questions.

Yes, we're two calendar weeks into it. As you know I missed five days but am making up for those pretty well. I'm actually planning on making pictorial updates on a monthly basis so that means..............................Monday, June 3rd I'm planning on posting current pictures. That wasn't in the original "rules", just something I want to do so I can better track my progress.



Posted by: ALBOB

Speaking of working out this is a FITNESS journal, isn't it? Yes, I did a 50 minute Spinning class this morning. Strength program, had the heart rate in the 85-90% range almost the entire routine. I know that isn't optimum for fat burning but I need it occasionally for a good leg workout. Spinning three times a week doesn't allow me to do squats the way I want so I supplement by doing a strength program. You'd be surprised how well this works. Don't think you can get good legs doing this? Look at an Olympic bycicle sprinter's quads sometime. MASSIVE!!!



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Do you teach the Spinning class?

And I believe you about the legs of a cyclist!



Posted by: Fade

I used to spin when I was a kid.:o



Posted by: ALBOB

Yep, I'm the friendly (sadistic) Spinning instructor. I figure if I'm gonna do it anyway I may as well get paid for it.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

This from the same Fade that didn't even know what Spinning class was!! ALBOB, what do you think about that?



Posted by: Miss LeDix

I take Spinning sometimes. A good teacher and the right music make all the difference. I hope you play good music.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Fade99
I used to spin when I was a kid.:o
Are we talking last week or the week before?



Posted by: Fade

There's a spinning club here in Houston but I won't go.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix I hope you play good music.
Rock 'n Roll baby!!!



Posted by: Fade

How do you exercise on this?




Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


Are we talking last week or the week before?
Hey.. I'll be 30 going on 13 in July.



Posted by: ALBOB

You just have to put the string in the right place. THAT'LL get yer heart going!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Fade99
Hey.. I'll be 30 going on 13 in July.
July what? I'll be 40 going on 18 the 30th.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Back to the music...do you buy pre-mixed CDs that are specifically for Spinning? Or do you make your own?

I would love some sort of pop music mix...!



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


July what? I'll be 40 going on 18 the 30th.
July 18th



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
Back to the music...do you buy pre-mixed CDs that are specifically for Spinning? Or do you make your own?

I would love some sort of pop music mix...!
Some rave music might be good. That and a hit of acid.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
Back to the music...do you buy pre-mixed CDs that are specifically for Spinning? Or do you make your own?
I own about 400 CD's and if there's a particular song I want but don't have I'll download it from Audiogalaxy.com then I burn my own. Funny how Spinning changes your attitude about certain songs though. I LOOOOVE Stevie Ray Vaughn but when I'm doing a massively steep climb his guitar solos seem tooooo looooong.



Posted by: ALBOB

Morning weights (Chest day)(First chest workout in three weeks. Decided to use lighter weights and just rep out. All sets represent the number of COMPLETED reps. I always go to failure but don't count the failed rep.)

Incline DB presses
#105 X 12
#105 X 10
#95 X 12

Dips
Fat ass + #25 X 12
Fat ass + #25 X 10
Fat ass + #25 X 8
Super/drop set: Fat ass + #25 X 8-Fat ass only X 4

Overhead triceps extensions (rope)
#105 X 12
#105 X 8
#100 X 6

Have a Spinning class this afternoon.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB

Dips
Fat ass + #25 X 12
Fat ass + #25 X 10
Fat ass + #25 X 8
Super/drop set: Fat ass + #25 X 8-Fat ass only X 4
LOL! Still quite impressive. I hate dips!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix I hate dips!
Best finishing move I've ever found. You can go to positive failure and then step up for a negative rep or two all without a spotter. Talk about frying your pecs. Just gotta make sure you go slow. I hate watching guys doing dips who think they're in a race or something. Also, be aware of elbow position, too straight back and it becomes more of a triceps movement.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

OMG...you sort of lost me there. I thought we were talking about dips off a bench or something...you mean the REAL dips...I'm quite impressed. And it really frustrates me when I see people doing stuff wrong at the gym. Like the girl who always does walking lunges with no wieght..nothing is ever going to happen doing them that way! I told her to use some 10 lb dbs....I may bug her again!



Posted by: Fade

Watching people do things wrong in the gym can be fun.

I let some guy use the leg press when I had about 1100lbs on it. I new he couldn't do it but he was acting big and bad so I let him go. He dropped it on himself. Made me laugh.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Fade, that's sort of mean of you! I hope he didn't hurt himself.

Oh..and way to go on 1100 lbs on the leg press! Wowza! I'm still trying to break 100 lbs.



Posted by: Fade

The way is see it is if it's a kid I'll help them because of lack of life experiance and such. To me an adult should have more wisdom. He should have known that was too much weight. I had 24 45lb plates on. It's kinda abvious that it's not gonna be light. He also acted cocky and also didn't ask for a spot. Soooo fk him let him get hurt bet he won't do it again.

Oh max on leg press is 1400lbs 5reps that's all I could fit on it.



Posted by: butterfly

Fade's max is 30 45# plates which adds up to around 1400#




Posted by: butterfly

I always enjoy watching the man trying to do leg raises by swinging his legs back and then up again



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
OMG...you sort of lost me there. I thought we were talking about dips off a bench or something...you mean the REAL dips...I'm quite impressed.
Well you're being nice here so I won't pretend to be mad about you slamming me for being able to lift sooooo much weight. (i.e. saying I've got a REALLY fat ass. )

Fade you a$$$$$$$$$hooooooooooooooole. Come into MY journal and make me feel so weak?!?!? The best I ever managed on leg press was 1200 X 6. (You do go knees-to-chest, right?) For some reason I started getting TERRIBLE headaches from doing leg presses and had to give them up. I know what you're thinking and it wasn't because I was holding my breath either. That was one thing I was sure of.



Posted by: Fade

Hahaha yeah I've held my breath before..not pleasent.

Do squats give you a headache?

Yup I use full range not the one inch shuffle some people do on the press.



Posted by: ALBOB

Oh hell yes. I go as deep as my old achillies tendons will let me.

Speaking of people doing things wrong. I was impressed that these two young pups were actually working legs the other day instead of the usuall 50 sets of curls but DAMN. They loaded up the leg press machine with seven or eight hundred pounds and screamed their heads off on each rep.......................yeah, you guessed it, the sled only moved about an inch per rep. They grunted and groaned through three sets and then made a bee line for the preacher curl bench.



Posted by: Fade

Curls. hehehe That reminds me. Cory (14) was always flexing his bicep and loved curls. I had to point out that he needs to think about every muscle that way. His bicep was getting big but nothing else was growing as fast. Now he focuses on the muscle that's being worked at the time.



Posted by: butterfly

...and since he's concentrating on each muscle his triceps are coming in nicely so his arms look even better.

That's really all the teenage boys seems to think about is having that tall lean look with ripped abs and nice arms.



Posted by: butterfly

BTW, 1200# is NOT weak



Posted by: ALBOB

Well I sure appreciate that Butterfly but my problem is that Fade's 1400 lb legs look like tree trunks whereas my 1200 lb legs look like little twigs. Damn genetics.



Posted by: butterfly

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
Well I sure appreciate that Butterfly but my problem is that Fade's 1400 lb legs look like tree trunks whereas my 1200 lb legs look like little twigs. Damn genetics.
Yes, he does have scrumptious legs... and that a$$

(butterfly restrains herself from posting a pic of Fade's legs)



Posted by: esmerelda

Dont restrain yourself girl!!!!!!!! Post the pic...post the pic....hell if the guys can push for girlie shots......I want boy shots!!!!!!!!



Posted by: butterfly

Sorry ALBOB, the lady asked for it...



Posted by: ALBOB

Now it's no secret I'm all for pornalization of journals but that's DISGUSTING!!!!!


Disgusting in that I'm so damn jealous! Fade you asssssshooooooole!!!!!

P.S. to Fade: I didn't answer an earlier question of yours. No, I don't get headaches from squats, only leg presses.



Posted by: ALBOB

In case you didn't notice, I wasn't here Friday. Given a choice between being at work (Chatting with you wonderful people) and being on the golf course. You do come in a VERY close second but the fact still remains, you're in second place.

Did 45 minute power walks Saturday and Sunday mornings. Did 50 minute Spinning class this morning.



Posted by: esmerelda

Errrrrrrrmmmmmm....butterfly...girl....anychance of letting a harmless Aussie lass come over and play with your hubby in the gym???? *Trys to act innocent...but has a hard time getting those wonderful shoulders and legs out of her mind!!!!* Or at least watch?!!!! Nice...very very nice!!!! Great taste in bodies .... ermmmm...men ..... Butterfly!!!!!

So Albob...you'd rather chase a poor little white ball around with a long skinny stick????? Actually that could sound quite pornal IF I wanted it too....hell why not!!!!! Were you playing a little ruff??? Did your pitted balls go where they were supposed to???? Did your drive out last your putt?????? Can I clean your balls for you??????



Posted by: craig777

Esmerelda,

If you kiss his balls, his putter stands up.

Then he can get a hole in one.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda So Albob...you'd rather chase a poor little white ball around with a long skinny stick????? Actually that could sound quite pornal IF I wanted it too....hell why not!!!!! Were you playing a little ruff??? Did your pitted balls go where they were supposed to???? Did your drive out last your putt?????? Can I clean your balls for you??????
Well let me answer all that by just saying I definitely know how to handle my shaft and my balls ALWAYS go where I want them to. Can you clean them? Of course, as a matter of fact that's encouraged. Also, Craig's advice is VERY good.



Posted by: esmerelda

Just as a side track ....... last time I played golf...was with a bunch of my mad girlfriends...a country town...where the greens were actually made of raked gravel!!!! The main aim was...if you went off into the ruff (scrub=desert plants etc)...you had to remove an item of clothing!!! If you got anywhere near the hole (tin cup burried in the ground!!) then you got to scull a drink!!! Needless to say...by the end of the round...we were 3 parts to the wind and very sunburnt!!!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Now THAT sounds fun!!!



Posted by: esmerelda

Thought you'd like my version of golf!!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Just got the call to fill in for another Spinning class in about an hour so chalk me up for another 50 minutes of cardio.



Posted by: butterfly

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda
Errrrrrrrmmmmmm....butterfly...girl....anychance of letting a harmless Aussie lass come over and play with your hubby in the gym???? *Trys to act innocent...but has a hard time getting those wonderful shoulders and legs out of her mind!!!!* Or at least watch?!!!! Nice...very very nice!!!! Great taste in bodies .... ermmmm...men ..... Butterfly!!!!!
PLAY WITH MY HUSBAND?!?!?!?

How could you even ask such a thing...

and NOT invite me too!!!

The nerve



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
PLAY WITH MY HUSBAND?!?!?!?

How could you even ask such a thing...

and NOT invite me too!!!

The nerve
And in my journal without even inviting me either. Butterfly, I think you and I are going to have to get together for some fun of our own. Teach these two low-life's a lesson.



Posted by: butterfly

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


And in my journal without even inviting me either. Butterfly, I think you and I are going to have to get together for some fun of our own. Teach these two low-life's a lesson.
Butt... butt... can't fade watch???



Posted by: esmerelda

Butterfly...darlin'.....no disrespect!!!! I just assumed that you'd be there too!!!!!! And as for Albob.......well.....its really up to Fade wether your allowed to play as well or not!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda
Thought you'd like my version of golf!!!!
Why women like golf.



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by butterfly

Butt... butt... can't fade watch???
Uh...just watch??? WTF



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by butterfly

Yes, he does have scrumptious legs... and that a$$

(butterfly restrains herself from posting a pic of Fade's legs)
Forget the legs... post his ass!!!





Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Sosunni Forget the legs... post his ass!!!
Not in MY journal!!!



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by Sosunni


Forget the legs... post his ass!!!

I'll post it in her journal.:o



Posted by: ALBOB

Back day today. TERRIBLE workout. ZERO energy. I don't know if it was the two Spinning classes yesterday but I just couldn't get my a$$ out of first gear.

Deadlifts: 445 X 2 and 2
Decided to try low cable rows for a change even though I prefer the barbell. STUPID move!!! 200 X 20, 19 and 14

Too frustrated to do anymore back movements, switched to biceps with no improvement.

Barbell preacher curls: 70 X 14 and 12
Dumbell preacher hammer curls: 30 X 9, 6 and 4 (per arm)

Left pissed off!



Posted by: Fade

Yeah, I've had those days before. They suck.



Posted by: Sosunni

Boobie.. sometimes you have to just walk away.. you're bod's talking to you!!

Now.. about my adventure... you're BEFORE PB?

Fade.. thank you.. I'm on my way!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Sosunni Now.. about my adventure... you're BEFORE PB?
Yep, gotta drive right my me to get to him. Not that you could EVER pass me by.



Posted by: Sosunni

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


Yep, gotta drive right my me to get to him. Not that you could EVER pass me by.
Boobie... if I'm gonna see you.. I'm thinking maybe lunch on the way back up..... I'm gonna need a little more info than that.

Unles you're avoiding the question.. then ... nevermind



Posted by: ALBOB

Not avoiding the question at all, just teasing a bit. We can iron out the details through PM's.



Posted by: Sosunni

Of course!!



Posted by: Miss LeDix

ALBOB, listen to Fade and Sosunni...bad days at the gym happen to all of us. At least you tried to make it into a productive workout. Could have left without doing anything....

Just wanted to check and say hi! And, uh, err..well....















VIBRATOR!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Thanks Miss L. Yeah, I've had bad days before and even though I know they're gonna happen occasionally it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Tomorrow I don't have anything on my schedule so I think I'm just gonna take a brisk walk in the morning and rest up a bit then hit it hard again on Thursday.



Posted by: Stacey

Me too albob.. I have had shitty days like that at the gym!~~



Posted by: craig777

Yep, I agree except today was one of those shitty days outside the gym. Inside the gym was fine.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by craig777 today was one of those shitty days outside the gym.
Let's see if I can do a respectable Princess/Butterfly/Miss LeDix impersonation............................."Awe sweetie what's wrong? Are you feeling OK honey? You should go lay down and take it easy for a while girlie."



Posted by: craig777

Thanks, I needed that.



Posted by: Fade

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB


Let's see if I can do a respectable Princess/Butterfly/Miss LeDix impersonation............................."Awe sweetie what's wrong? Are you feeling OK honey? You should go lay down and take it easy for a while girlie."
Damn that's scary. You did that too well.




Posted by: Miss LeDix

BWAHAHAAAAAAA!



Posted by: ALBOB

Yeah well, if I ever start drooling over pictures of your butt PLEASE shoot me.



Posted by: Fade

You mean there's a chance of that?



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Fade99
You mean there's a chance of that?
I didn't think so before today but if you turned Pitboss I don't want to take any chances.



Posted by: Fade

Wow! I must have the irresistible a$$ of power. I thought it was only a myth.



Posted by: ALBOB

Don't go getting too full of yourself there big boy. He already had "tendencies". Afterall he was employed by the Department of the Navy.



Posted by: Fade

Lonely sailor boys. Ah, that says it all.



Posted by: craig777

Albob,

If you are meeting with Sosunni tomorrow, we better get some details. Better yet some pictures.



Posted by: ALBOB

Hell, if the technology existed I'd put them right up there on Smell-a-vision........................Sadly, it doesn't look like it's gonna work out. $hit just hit the fan around here and I'm not gonna be able to hook up with her tomorrow. No, we're not going to war. It's worse! Our budget from last year BOUNCED!!! Looks like some other unit was using our funds to pay a lease on their building and it didn't show up on our books until TODAY.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Likely government excuse...the real reason you're not seeing Sosunni is because you know you couldn't HANDLE it! She's way too much woman for you!



Posted by: butterfly

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
Likely government excuse...the real reason you're not seeing Sosunni is because you know you couldn't HANDLE it! She's way too much woman for you!
Those were my thoughts as well...



Posted by: ALBOB

WOAHHH you two!!! Even if she was too much woman for me, (Which I'd NEVER admit) there's no way in hell I'd run away without at least TRYING to tame her first.



Posted by: Sosunni

Thanks you ladies!!! No worries .. he gave up his numbers... and I'm sure he'll fess up if we see one another!





Posted by: craig777

Wow, Albob the ladies are vicious to you. What did you ever do to deserve that.



Posted by: Fade

Ease up ladies. He might have Dishabiliophobia-Fear of undressing in front of someone, or Eurotophobia-Fear of female genitalia, or Genophobia-Fear of sex.



Posted by: esmerelda

Narrrrr..he's saving himself for when Sussi-girl and I hit town together!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: esmerelda

OK...call me stupid....you do 'spin classes'.....what the hell is a spin class???? I gather it has to do with an exercise bike....but what exactly do you do??????

Oh and by the by......hi sexy!!!! Can I join in your spin class...the one on one class with nil clothes so they dont chaff!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda
Narrrrr..he's saving himself for when Sussi-girl and I hit town together!!!!!!!!!
And once again the voice of reason is heard above the rabble of the pesants. Way to go Essy.

Good question Craig, I guess they're just upset that they can't have a gigantic piece of this awesome specimine. (Yes, it IS gigantic. )



Posted by: esmerelda

Still waiting for proof there my good man!!!!! You owe me one!!!! Actually I believe you owe me a couple!!!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

As many as you want my dear.



Posted by: esmerelda

Well you can finish off the last one you started!!!!!



Posted by: butterfly

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
Good question Craig, I guess they're just upset that they can't have a gigantic piece of this awesome specimine. (Yes, it IS gigantic. )
awwhhh... that's what they all say... we'd need to see evidence



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by butterfly we'd need to see evidence
So, are you coming to CA or am I coming to TX???



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Stop the presses...ALBOB, did you see that Essie actually asked you about something fitness-related? I know it was easy to miss between all the ass-talk around here..



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
Stop the presses...ALBOB, did you see that Essie actually asked you about something fitness-related? I know it was easy to miss between all the ass-talk around here..
As a matter of fact I DID miss it, missed it completely. Thanks Miss LeDix. Guess I owe Essy an explanation.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda
OK...call me stupid....you do 'spin classes'.....what the hell is a spin class???? I gather it has to do with an exercise bike....but what exactly do you do??????
You're correct in that it's taught on a stationary bike. The class is set to music and takes you into different "energy zones" based on the workout for that day. There are Interval, Endurance, Strength, Raceday and Recovery. Each workout takes your heartrate into different levels. You always warm up to 65% of your pre-determined maximum. 220-your age=your maximum, so you would warm up to 65% of that. That's your starting heartrate for the workout, you WILL go up from there but will NOT go below it. For instance, an Interval routine will start at 65% and go up to 75% and back down. Then up to 85% and back down. Then up to 92% and back down. You keep cycling up and down for 40-50 minutes. Endurance is an entire workout in the 75% range. Raceday is an entire workout in the 85-92% range. (I fuqing ball buster!!!!!) Recovery is an entire workout at 65%. It's been proven that if you do a Recovery routine a day or two after a Raceday you will recover about 60% faster than just vegging out on the couch. The most difficult part of the class from an instructor standpoint is convincing people that they don't have to kill themselves to make progress. The most efficient fat burning zone is between 65 and 75%. When you get on the bike and feel that zone it doesn't really FEEL like you're working that hard. It may not FEEL that way but you're doing great things for your body. As a matter of fact, if you apply that to whatever type of cardio workout you choose you will burn more fat and do it faster. Obviously, a pre-requisite for this is to own a heartrate monitor. You can buy them for about $50 U.S. If you do decide to get one don't waste your money on one with all the fancy bells and whistles, you don't need them and they're not worth the extra $$$. All you need is a monitor to show your heartrate, that's it. **WHEW** After all that typing I feel like I'm at 65% already.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

ALBOB, I am still waiting on the thread regarding your shakes.

That was a great explanation of Spinning. Should help Fade out, too since he was not familiar with the concept.'

I do not have a heart rate monitor. I plan on getting one at some point.

I wish I could take a Spinning class with you...it would be so funny! Not because you're a bad teacher, just becuase it would be wierd to talk to you here and then have you teach a class! LOL!



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix ALBOB, I am still waiting on the thread regarding your shakes.
You thought I was SERIOUS when I said I'd start one??? Tell ya' what, you list what you want to know and I'll answer every question to the best of my ability. (With as little pornality as possible. ) Seriously, I'm not sure what I'd say. They're shakes. You dump a bunch of ingredients into a blender and hit the "Liquify" button.................................Then you get a mop and clean up the mess you just made because you didn't put the lid on first.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

I don't understand why you are doing this? How many times and in how many different ways do I have to ask you about the damn shakes? What do you think I want to know, the brand of blender you are using??????????????????



Posted by: ALBOB

Uhh Oh, I got her to say "damn". I'm being serious, I'm not sure what to put in a thread about water, protein powder, eggs and a blender. You know that I joke around about 99% of the time but when someone has a serious question I'll do my best to provide a good answer. I'm truely not clear on what your question is. I'll freely admit my Alzheimer's may be flaring up and you're being perfectly clear but I'm just not seeing it. Sorry.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Hello. My name is Miss LeDix and I would like to know the following information regarding the shakes:

1) What brand of protien do you use?
2) How much protien do you use?
3) How many eggs do you use?
4) Re: the eggs. Do you use just the white or the whole egg?
5) How much water do you use?
6) About how many ounces is the finished product?

How's that for specific?



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by Miss LeDix
Hello. My name is Miss LeDix and I would like to know the following information regarding the shakes:

1) What brand of protien do you use?
2) How much protien do you use?
3) How many eggs do you use?
4) Re: the eggs. Do you use just the white or the whole egg?
5) How much water do you use?
6) About how many ounces is the finished product?

How's that for specific?
Hey Miss LeDix. Welcome to IM, glad to have you aboard. I'm sure you'll find we're a "lively" bunch but always willing to help a friend. I'll answer your questions in order:

1) I'm a cheapskate. I use whatever 100% Whey protein is on sale that week. Lately it's been Vitamine World's house brand. I use 100% Whey because of it's BV numbers. (If you need an explanation of that I'll be happy to try to explain.) Lately people have said that Whey isn't the best source of protein ALL the time because it's absorbed too quickly and can be used for energy instead of muscle repair, that's why I add eggs to my shakes, to get a good mix of protein sources.
2) I use 40 grams of protein powder per shake and each whole egg has 6 grams so that's a total of............ ............64 grams of protein? I don't think the old saying about more than 30 grams of protein at one time is a waste BUT I do sip the shake as opposed to just slamming it down. That spreads the "meal" out better and promotes that "grazing" effect throughout the day that's good for fat loss.
3&4) I've been putting 4 WHOLE eggs in every shake for about five years now. There are a few people in the world that are susceptable to dietary cholesterol affecting their syrum cholesterol but, luckily, I'm not one of them so I don't worry about the cholesterol in the yolks. Also, I'm experimenting with an Atkin's type diet so I want the fat in the yolks too.
5) For the purposes of shakes water is just a trasport system. I don't really measure it, I just add enough so the thickness of the shake is the way I like it. Not too runny, not too thick. (I can't stand shakes that feel like I'm drinking mud. )
6) I use Rubbermaid brand 1 Liter bottles to carry them in so, about 1 Liter.



Posted by: esmerelda

OHH MY GOD!!!! Missy D....Im impressed...not only did you get him to be serious about something for once on this site...but you made him answer two serious questions within one cyber day!!!! Way to go girl!!!!!!!

Spin class and Albob.....Missy D on one side of the class..being all serious (but breaks into giggles from time to time!!!)...me on the other side....seeing who can break whose balls first (Albobs or mine!!!) Now thats a class I'd love to take!!!!

The reason why I asked about spinning..is we dont have it over here...and it sounds like a good cardio workout!!! i might have to invest in a monitor....and some good music...hit the headphones and try it out!!!



Posted by: dvlmn666

hmmm maybe i should sign up for it. but gotta check out the gym by work instead of the one by my house. The one here they all start at 6:00 which is when i get outa work

albald, does the protein mask the taste of the raw eggs? if it does i may consider trying to make one using your recipe.



Posted by: ALBOB

To everybody: If/when you do decide to give a Spinning class a try make sure NOT to do any direct leg workouts for about a week prior. When you get into the class and see what it's all about you'll thank me.

dvlmn: raw eggs have taste? Seriously, once you put all that stuff into the blender and let it slosh around a while you won't even notice what's in there. It just tastes like thick chocolate milk. (Or whatever flavor protein powder you choose.)



Posted by: kuso

Over what kind of time period do you drink these shakes? And how many a day?

While I`m at it, what kind of ( animal ) protien are you favouring during this challenge?



Posted by: ALBOB

(Training is preceeded by a Multi-vitamine, 2 Xenadrine capsules and 2 tspns flax seed oil.) I do all my training (cardio and weights) first thing in the morning so shake #1 is post-workout. The other two are nestled in between my whole food meals. Example: Meal #1=post-workout shake, three hours later Meal #2=tuna salad (1 can tuna+1 Tblsp mayo+10 chopped black olives), three hours later Meal #3=shake, three hours later Meal #4=some sort of lean meat, usually chicken or turkey breast sometimes beef, three hours later Meal #5=shake, last meal of the day=another lean meat meal.



Posted by: kuso

I see you`ve stopped taking that MetRx eca thing thats supposed to work for 8 hours, and gone back to Xenadrine capsules......any reason for the change?

I`m currently using the one by AST.......two of then 30min prior and I`m ready to kick some cerious ass.



Posted by: ALBOB

When that idiot ALBOB started this whole fiasco I went to the store to stock up on supplies. They were out of the MetRx stuff so I grabbed the Xenadrine. I'm lazy that way. I've thought of trying Hydroxycut again but the last time I used it I got chest pains and don't really feel like going through that again.



Posted by: craig777

I have tried quite a few different ECA stacks, and the only one that really kicks my butt is Liquid Clenbutrix by VPX.



Posted by: kuso

Quote:
Originally posted by ALBOB
I've thought of trying Hydroxycut again but the last time I used it I got chest pains and don't really feel like going through that again.
You don`t want to be taking anything causing chest pains......shyt, we`re doing this for our health, not to destroy it.

Besides, hasn`t latest research into Hydroxine ( or whatever that active ingreadiant is ) been proven not to help fat reduction in humans? I`m sure I read that somewhere!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Never heard of that one Craig. When my current bottle of Xenedrine runs out I might give it a try. I hadn't heard that Kuso but it doesn't matter, like you said, I'm in this for my health NOT chest pains.



Posted by: craig777

Oh yes, give it a try. It is liquid and tastes horrible. I am serious, it tastes really bad, but I put 4cc in my mouth in the morning for about 5 minutes, and then swallow. About 1/2 hour later I am sweating big time. I guarantee you will like it. It is a bit pricey though. I just paid $70.00 for a 240cc bottle.



Posted by: kuso

Craig....I read that VPX just changed the fomula of it, and that the new one doesn`t work anywhere near as well.......how`s the one you just bought?



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by craig777 $70.00 for a 240cc bottle.

$70????? HOLY CRAP!!! How long does 240cc's last? I'm on a rather tight budget here. You hold it for five minutes before swallowing? Is it safe to assume that's for sub-lingual absorption? Jeeze, I'm already choking down 2tsps of flax seed oil, I don't know if I could handle another wretched tasting concoction that early in the morning.



Posted by: craig777

I just bought it Tuesday evening, and yes I noticed that they had changed the formula, but it is kicking my butt this very minute.

They added a cinnamin taste to it, doesn't help much.



Posted by: esmerelda

Hydroxycut!!!!!!! That active ingredient has been banned over here in the land of Oz!!!!! Hense me only able to get the specifically made ones for us!!!!!!! I havent had any side-effects.....other than it helps me get thru nightshifts.....and makes me very toe-ie!!!!!!!!!!!

Did your version of the Aussie spin set tonight!!!!!!! Thanks baby...I think!!!!! Got a gf in on it too.......we'll see how I hold up tomorrow.....if I have problems....will you give me a rub down??



Posted by: craig777

You Air Force guys, I tell you.

240cc taking 4cc each morning would last 60 days. If you take 4cc in the morning and 4cc in the afternoon it will last 30 days.

240 / 4 = 60

240 / 8 = 30

Yes it is for the sub-lingual absorption.

Sorry Albob couldn't resist.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by esmerelda will you give me a rub down??
OH THANK GOD!!! Pornality returns to ALBOB's journal. Thank you Essy!!! Hell yes I'll give you a rub down. I'll concentrate on the spot that hurts the most too. I know how uncomfortable those seats can be.



Posted by: kuso

I`ve heard ( and thats why I bought ) that Kranker ( the one with foreskin ) is the next most potent after VPX`s....but Kraner is in table form.

I haven`t used it yet so I can`t say weather it`s true or not....though AST`s kicks Hydroxicutts ass



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote:
Originally posted by craig777
You Air Force guys, I tell you.

Where's that damn smiley that's flip[ping the bird??? (I missed the part about 4cc in your original post. )

$70 every month??? I think I'll stick with the Xenadrine.



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