Originally Posted by mike456

since it was before a fight, he was probably warming up, Im sure he does not want to fatigue his muscles before a fight.
DID I misunderstand your post?

Originally Posted by CowPimp

How do they train or how should they train? Two different questions. Lots of coaches train their athletes differently. Many of them perform well in spite of a shitty training program beacuse of good genetics and a high level of sport specific skill.

Originally Posted by mike456

Ok how should they train, Im am not looking for a routine, just curious:
Do they train low reps for strength?
Explosive movements?
Main exercises?
High reps for muscular endurance?

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

I would imagine fighters do little to zero resistance training during fight prep. Most resistiance training is probably done in their "off time". Maybe a few months out they incorporate some sort of weight training, but closer to the fight it's usually all fight prep and cardio.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

They should still implement a maintenance program. Most sports call for resistance training 2 days a week during the season, and 3-4 days a week during the offseason to really take things up a notch.

Are there seasons with boxing? That makes a big difference in terms of what needs to be done with training.

Originally Posted by fUnc17

you'd be suprised how little strength has to do with fighting

Originally Posted by fUnc17

you'd be suprised how little strength has to do with fighting

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Coaches are realizing that strength is good in every single sport, inlcuding golf and marathon running. Increased strength means increased movement efficiency and a higher rate of force development, which are desireable in all sports.

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Ken Shamrock does his heavy weight training months before a fight and then backs off and starts doing more sparring and mit work.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Remember people, strength and size are not the same thing.

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Well the question was how do they train and not how should they train. Typically boxers rarely touch weights. Punching power has not much to do with physical strength, and a shitload to do with technique.

911 - The Ken Shamrock example is a horrible one.

1. He's a Mixed Martial Artist not a boxer.
2. He's lost 6 of his last 7 fights. I wouldn't want to do anything he's doing.
3. Did you see either of the Ortiz fights? He was winded 2 minutes into round 1 in the first one, and the second one only lasted 1:18.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I would argue that strength is desireable in every sport. List me any reason why it isn't, and I'll give you plenty as to why it is.

Originally Posted by fUnc17

Takes away time from training technique which is far more important. Strength is good, the more the better, but using what you got and trying to make yourself more effecient in the ring is more important than trying to increase what you have and not being able to use it once you have it.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I would argue that strength is desireable in every sport. List me any reason why it isn't, and I'll give you plenty as to why it is.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

A strength training program could be put together to take less than 4 hours a week. I don't see how that would take away from all other forms of training in the slightest bit.


But the muay thai guy made a VERY good point about the scoring system. You really don't have to be strong enough to knock everybody out to win. But if I was to take boxing lessons I would definitely still strength train for all the benefits it has to offer. I mean, why not??




I think the thread starter may have started this thread in regards to the way boxers LOOK more than how strong they are and what not...

"man that boxer looks great, I wonder how he trains...I wonder if I could do that too"

Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

According to Tyson, he did tons of push-ups and dips to keep his hand speed fast.

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Well the question was how do they train and not how should they train. Typically boxers rarely touch weights. Punching power has not much to do with physical strength, and a shitload to do with technique.

911 - The Ken Shamrock example is a horrible one.

1. He's a Mixed Martial Artist not a boxer.
2. He's lost 6 of his last 7 fights. I wouldn't want to do anything he's doing.
3. Did you see either of the Ortiz fights? He was winded 2 minutes into round 1 in the first one, and the second one only lasted 1:18.

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

I'm not arguing, I'm stating a fact. They don't do much lifting. Should they? I don't know, you're the "expert".

Originally Posted by fUnc17

Takes away time from training technique which is far more important. Strength is good, the more the better, but using what you got and trying to make yourself more effecient in the ring is more important than trying to increase what you have and not being able to use it once you have it.

Originally Posted by Bakerboy

The video clip at the top is kind of cool. I don't know how realistic this type of training is for some one just starting out. You have to be pretty damn fit to do one arm roll outs! It's kind of old school dressed up to look sexy, like minO in a thawn. http://www.rossboxing.com/

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but this is just my opinion. Take it or leave it. I'm basing this off the opinions of a variety of strength coaches though.

I'm just defending my point, but you don't have to try and make smartass comments toward me.



That's why you focus more on strength when a fight is far away and transition to more specific work as a fight approaches. That way you can trasmute some of your more general gains into specific gains. Furthermore, to maintain your strength you have to do very little resistance training. 2 days a week is plenty.

Also, I would argue that strength training makes your technique more efficient, as it improves neuromuscular efficiency on many levels.


Again, this is just my opinion, but strength training keeps showing promise in promoting performance improvements in every single sport where it's implemented. I'm not doubting the need for good technique and skills. I would rather have a competent fighter than a strong fighter, but why not have both?

Originally Posted by fUnc17

Strength training is GOOD, yes. I am fully aware of its benefits. Take a fighter that does zero strength training, have him fight a guy who strength trains but does not fight. Whose going to win? Of course the fighter. Take the same pair, put them in the weight room. Whose going to lift more? The 2nd guy! Now tell me whats more important to a boxer, learning how to box or lifting weights? Will lifting weights help? YES. But its a very small piece of the puzzle.

The question was about how boxers train. This encompasses everything including strength training (conditioning, GPP, strength, technique, etc). Do some of them strength train? yes. should more of them? yes. do their routines suck? probably. But they do what is obvious to them, which is learning how to box, and increasing that ability via technique drills.

Originally Posted by fUnc17

Strength training is GOOD, yes. I am fully aware of its benefits. Take a fighter that does zero strength training, have him fight a guy who strength trains but does not fight. Whose going to win? Of course the fighter. Take the same pair, put them in the weight room. Whose going to lift more? The 2nd guy! Now tell me whats more important to a boxer, learning how to box or lifting weights? Will lifting weights help? YES. But its a very small piece of the puzzle.

The question was about how boxers train. This encompasses everything including strength training (conditioning, GPP, strength, technique, etc). Do some of them strength train? yes. should more of them? yes. do their routines suck? probably. But they do what is obvious to them, which is learning how to box, and increasing that ability via technique drills.