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Posted by: pengers84

I am currently using a push/pull/leg split using gopros p/rr/shock template. I was just wondering how many bicep excercises i should have on pull day and how many tricep excercises on push day? All opinions welcome!

Posted by: kenwood

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Originally Posted by pengers84

I am currently using a push/pull/leg split using gopros p/rr/shock template. I was just wondering how many bicep excercises i should have on pull day and how many tricep excercises on push day? All opinions welcome!

the only bicep and tricep stuff i do are Dips and Chinups. both weighted

Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by pengers84

What the fuck do you mean by a bicep exercise or a tricep exercise!
Every compound push works the triceps, and every compund pull works the biceps!
And you should not have any fucking elbow isolation in your routine!
What is the point to put in a elbow isolation if you can add a compound press and work the tris including every other push muscle!- Same for biceps.
If you have any isolation in your push pull, it should never be elbow isolation because the bis and tris are the muscle that takes the biggest beating in a push pull, if you want some isolation put in some rear laterals or flys.
Sorry if I offend you these posts just get me pissed

Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by kenwood

the only bicep and tricep stuff i do are Dips and Chinups. both weighted

No that is not the only bicep/tricep work you do, jackass.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by kenwood

the only bicep and tricep stuff i do are Dips and Chinups. both weighted

Add at least skull crushers...

Posted by: CowPimp

One exercise is probably enough.

Posted by: kenwood

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Originally Posted by mike456

No that is not the only bicep/tricep work you do, jackass.

yes it is jackass. i mean i know other exercises i do works em too but thats the only thing i do for them to targetthem. jackass

Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by kenwood

yes it is jackass. i mean i know other exercises i do works em too but thats the only thing i do for them to targetthem. jackass

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TARGET THEM, ROWS WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR YOUR BIS AS CHIN-UPS
SAME WITH DIPS AS OVERHEAD PRESS/BENCH

JACKASS

Posted by: kenwood

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Originally Posted by mike456

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TARGET THEM, ROWS WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR YOUR BIS AS CHIN-UPS
SAME WITH DIPS AS OVERHEAD PRESS/BENCH

JACKASS

why do you always got to complicate things for? it doesnt matter, whatever i'm doing is working for me so idc

Posted by: JordanMang

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Originally Posted by mike456

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TARGET THEM, ROWS WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR YOUR BIS AS CHIN-UPS
SAME WITH DIPS AS OVERHEAD PRESS/BENCH

JACKASS

Coming from the kid who knew nothing 3 months ago about lifting, and only quotes the stickies non-stop. People are different, and different things work for different people. Stop with the random flames. Bench over your body weight then talk.

Posted by: mike456

You can learn alot in 3 months.

When the fuck do I quote the stickies.

You are an idot.

All of your lifts are probably fake anyway, I am probably the only teenager on here that tells the truth.

Posted by: pengers84

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Originally Posted by mike456

What the fuck do you mean by a bicep exercise or a tricep exercise!
Your a fucking moron if you cant figure out im referring to bicep and tricep isolation excercises.

Every compound push works the triceps, and every compund pull works the biceps!
Thanks genius, but i already have this knowledge from 3 years of studying physiotherapy.

And you should not have any fucking elbow isolation in your routine! How do you isolate a joint? Fuckwit

What is the point to put in a elbow isolation if you can add a compound press and work the tris including every other push muscle!- Same for biceps. The point is obviously to isolate the arm muscles after sufficient compound movements have been performed

If you have any isolation in your push pull, it should never be elbow isolation because the bis and tris are the muscle that takes the biggest beating in a push pull, You obviously have little knowledge in excercise physiology.

if you want some isolation put in some rear laterals or flys.
Sorry if I offend you these posts just get me pissed

[B]The purpose of this post was simply to see how much arm isolation work other members were doing and compare it to my own (1 excercise for bis and 1 for tris), i think you have issues if that pisses you off.

There is no need for agression. Why not simply state your opinion, "no I don't think arm isolation excercises are necessary" instead of wasting everybodys time by posting paragraphs of moronic garbage.

You have not offended me, simply wasted my time, just another member I will ignore from now on.

Thankyou to everyone else for your responses!]

Posted by: assassin

all the thread ===>

Posted by: kcoleman

Arm isolation (and no dips aren't "isolation", try doing skullcrushers with your bodyweight) can have a place in most any program.

oh and

"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TARGET THEM, ROWS WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR YOUR BIS AS CHIN-UPS
SAME WITH DIPS AS OVERHEAD PRESS/BENCH"

umm wrong.

Posted by: JordanMang

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Originally Posted by mike456

You can learn alot in 3 months.

When the fuck do I quote the stickies.

You are an idot.

All of your lifts are probably fake anyway, I am probably the only teenager on here that tells the truth.

Actually, probably not. I'm not going to defend my lifts over the internet. No point. Not every teenager is a skinny-fat loser who struggles to proove himself over the internet.

Posted by: Tough Old Man

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Originally Posted by pengers84

I don't get it. This can't be that hard Pass84. Why don't you go back and look at gopro's training and see what he recommends.

Posted by: Andy_Massaro

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Originally Posted by mike456

You can learn alot in 3 months.

When the fuck do I quote the stickies.

You are an idot.

All of your lifts are probably fake anyway, I am probably the only teenager on here that tells the truth.

besides me

Posted by: dontsurfonmytur

mike, ur an idiot. The guy was asking isolation arm exercises. dont be a smartass.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Chill mike456, nothing wrong with doing one isolation exercise per workout.

Posted by: Phred

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Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

mike, ur an idiot. The guy was asking isolation arm exercises. dont be a smartass.

Isolation exercises have their purpose. If they fit into your program - use them. If they do not fit your program - do not use them. My only suggestions is not to over use them or make them the core exersices of your program.

Now as to the rest of the stuff being thrown in this thread (and other similar threads lately I might add) - my observation is that you do not have a lot of this flaming crap in the Steroid Forum where you must be 18 to post. Just my observaton and your mileage may vary.

Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by Phred

Some people are just a little too vehement about their training beliefs. I thought I was bad, but I guess not as much as I thought.

Posted by: assassin

Posted by: blueboy75

It's good to be 'pro' compound movements, but I think some people take it a bit too far.

Its good to experiment with the odd isolation exercise every now and again to determine what effect it has and how it feels generally. Obviously compounds are the foundation, but you can have a few frills also.

Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by blueboy75

It's good to be 'pro' compound movements, but I think some people take it a bit too far.

Its good to experiment with the odd isolation exercise every now and again to determine what effect it has and how it feels generally. Obviously compounds are the foundation, but you can have a few frills also.

I'll agree with you on that one. Isolation has it's place, just don't overdo it.

Posted by: Seanp156

Oh dear god......

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Seanp156

Oh dear god......

I agree 100%

Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by mike456

I am probably the only teenager on here that tells the truth.

Posted by: assassin

i suggest deleting this thread ......

Posted by: Phred

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Originally Posted by assassin

i suggest deleting this thread ......

Maybe a mod can step in and deal with it (or them). Open chat is one thing.....but these childlike accusations are getting out of hand.

Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by fufu

I meant like 16 and down lol, plus I said probably.

Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by pengers84

In my previous posts what I was trying to say is train movements not bodyparts. Because it makes zero sense to train body parts.

If what you meant was bicep/tricep isolation exercises (wich you did not say in your post), I would say zero.

you should not have any elbow isolation (extension or flexion)
Just ask your self this, why should I waste time/energy on curls or extensions when I can add in another rowing exercise or pull-ups/pulldowns? this way I will work the biceps just as much as curls, but will also be using every other pulling muscle that I am training today anyway.

Yes CG Chins will work your bis more than wide grip pull-ups(but take away from your rear delts and lats wich is wayyy bigger than your bis), and CG Bench will work your tris more than Flat Bench(but will take away from your front delts and chest wich is bigger than your tris), so if you think your arms are lagging add in CG chins and dips.

Sorry for the bad language in previous posts, I was being an ass.

Posted by: viet_jon

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

Coming from the kid who knew nothing 3 months ago about lifting, and only quotes the stickies non-stop. People are different, and different things work for different people. Stop with the random flames. Bench over your body weight then talk.

when someone gives an opinion on here, I think it should be worded as an opinion so people dont end up thinking it's concrete. After tonnes of reading this last week, i found that many training ideas/theories have different schools of thought and not as concrete as i thought. imo, training is very subjective.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by viet_jon

so u have just knew that now ???

there are many schools , different genetics , eating habits , different experience , different workouts and plans ,nutrition...... what works for you may not work for me ....so the final answer for this thread ====== > there is no solid laws in weight training.....

Posted by: viet_jon

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Originally Posted by assassin

so u have just knew that now ???

yea i know eh...duh

and btw....i didn't mean it to specifically anyone, just generally....dont get the wrong ideas guys. I've learned alot in the last month.....thank u to every1.

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