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Posted by: mrmarkmitch

hey buds, doing 2nd cycle of SD, just wanted to know wut you thought of my cycle, and what you reccommend.

week 1: 10 mg SD, 1 g milk thistle, 100 mg COQ10 (w/EFA's)
week 2: 20 mg Sd " --- "
week 3: 20-30 mg SD " --- "
week 4: 20-30 mg SD " ---"

off
week 1: 4 cap rebound xt, 2 cap novedex xt (night) (i got a bottle for free so hey why not enjoy it) 500 mg milk thistle, 50 mg COQ10
week 2: 3 cap rebound xt "" ---- ""
week 3: 2 cap rebound xt "" ---- ""
week 4: 1-2 cap rebound xt "" --- ""

* I am able to get real Nolva, so if I was to buy that, that be sufficient enough right, and how much nolva should I take if so, (even though i'll research if need be)

any other supp reccommendations or anything, let me know, my first cycle was great, planning on making this one even better.

Posted by: No....Name!!!!

Yes get nolva.

Run it like this

week.1 40mg
week.2 40mg
week.3 20mg
week.4 20mg

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

interesting, any other imput on to why thats a better route? i have one more question, when is it best (post/pre workout, meal, night...?) to take milk thistle or CoQ10?

Posted by: Pirate!

You can take the milk thistle and CoQ10 at any time of the day.

Posted by: chronicelite

Does using Nolva during the cycle to prevent gyno lessen the effects of the PH?

Posted by: TJ Cline

Originally Posted by mrmarkmitch

hey buds, doing 2nd cycle of SD, just wanted to know wut you thought of my cycle, and what you reccommend.

week 1: 10 mg SD, 1 g milk thistle, 100 mg COQ10 (w/EFA's)
week 2: 20 mg Sd " --- "
week 3: 20-30 mg SD " --- "
week 4: 20-30 mg SD " ---"

off
week 1: 4 cap rebound xt, 2 cap novedex xt (night) (i got a bottle for free so hey why not enjoy it) 500 mg milk thistle, 50 mg COQ10
week 2: 3 cap rebound xt "" ---- ""
week 3: 2 cap rebound xt "" ---- ""
week 4: 1-2 cap rebound xt "" --- ""

* I am able to get real Nolva, so if I was to buy that, that be sufficient enough right, and how much nolva should I take if so, (even though i'll research if need be)

any other supp reccommendations or anything, let me know, my first cycle was great, planning on making this one even better.

As ForemanRules has pointed out 100 Billion times , to properly attempt to give advice on gear use, it requires a specific information from the person requesting it and intending to use the advice provided through this forum.

Effective today, Tuesday, August 22. 2006, in order to post a request for advice or feedback for anabolics usage, you must provide the following info in your initial post to your thread topic:

1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals

Any specific questions you might have should be slanted to us reviewing your suggested cycle program. Do not expect us to fill in the blanks for you.

We expect you to have at the very least a rudimentary understanding of the compounds used; typical combinations employed; pre-cycle preparation and in-cycle / post-cycle supplemental support; AAS administration route; and knowledge of on-cycle specific dietary requirements.

It is your responsibility to educate yourself on the short- and long-term health and legal risks associated with AAS use.

Posts without this info will be deleted.

Any other members that visit the Anabolic forum and see posts without this information, please direct them to this thread.

Thanks.

Posted by: Tough Old Man

I personally think if a person can't inject themselves with Test that they are sissy's and will be for the rest of their lives.

Sissy

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

ok fine..
age - 22
weight - 195
height - 6'1
bmi - 11 percent
experience/training - 6 years / 3-4 times a week
current supps - tbomb II/no extreme/ 100% whey/novedex/6 oxo

I just want advice on my cycle. I have cycled one before on SD alone. Worked great, went from 190-197. I know however my previous cycle was only with milk thistle/rebound xt[pct] and my routine could of been tougher. My diets going to be healthy 5500-6500 calories w/high clean complex carb diet w/better liver support & pct [nolva]. I previously did 10/20/20/20 and it didnt kick till the third week seemingly, however I drank some alcohol i remember a few too many times... a big no no which my next cycle will not happen ever (no alcohol period really). I love to blast my bi's like 2-3 times a week on this stuff followed with separate days for chest/back and another for legs/cardio making my on cycle mad with about 5-6 times a week workout.

I want to gain about 10-14 pounds lean, I think I am going to cycle sd 30/30/20/30 but honestly i still havent decided because originally I was gonna stick to 20/20/30/30, so If anyone who has cycled SD before with good backup on their dose (besides following the bottles) let me know, Im so excited just b/c Im starting next week and its been 3 months since last time so I've been just counting the days down.

Posted by: ZECH

Whats your bloodwork show??

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

only hdl levels were a tad high, so my blood pressure was a tad high. i took coQ10 and will during my cycle so I should be fine as it is. so should wat cycle & dose do you people like? (for my 2nd cycle)

Posted by: Tough Old Man

Originally Posted by mrmarkmitch

only hdl levels were a tad high, so my blood pressure was a tad high. i took coQ10 and will during my cycle so I should be fine as it is. so should wat cycle & dose do you people like? (for my 2nd cycle)

The smart one. Test E or Cyp @400-500 mgs a week.

Posted by: ZECH

Originally Posted by mrmarkmitch

Just proves my point..................SD does not raise HDL levels. It tanks them. It's the LDL that skyrockets. Admit you didn't have any bloodwork done and you have no idea what they are! You have no business doing any type of steriods.

Posted by: Trouble

Too young

Too puny

Not enough knowledge, and you sound like a commercial for bbing.com.

"blast my bis" and "5-6 times a week workout"? Get serious here! You need to focus on diet and training, and wait another four plus years, until you can get your mass up to 220 or so, before you use gear again.

You also display zero understanding of liver lipid profiles and what values mean, as dg drily points out.

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

ok jeez hold ur pms, im not sayin i kno shit, no i dont work for a damn company u girl. I wasnt born knowin lipid levels, okay? thats the the point of asking you people, to LEARN.. hense my question on cycling.. gosh, sry i asked for help, i guess unknowledgeable people should never ask for knowledge on here, god, im not tryin to provoke shit, i dont have 900 hours to get my test levels checked evry day, im not a fuckin bodybuilder, just as a hobby do i work out.. god, sry for the trouble, just wanted to kno ur guys sd cycles n stuff.. im glad u get off on my lack of (ur level of bodybuilding) knowledge, congrats.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Originally Posted by mrmarkmitch

ok jeez hold ur pms, im not sayin i kno shit, no i dont work for a damn company u girl. I wasnt born knowin lipid levels, okay? thats the the point of asking you people, to LEARN.. hense my question on cycling.. gosh, sry i asked for help, i guess unknowledgeable people should never ask for knowledge on here, god, im not tryin to provoke shit, i dont have 900 hours to get my test levels checked evry day, im not a fuckin bodybuilder, just as a hobby do i work out.. god, sry for the trouble, just wanted to kno ur guys sd cycles n stuff.. im glad u get off on my lack of (ur level of bodybuilding) knowledge, congrats.

First off it is not wise to taike steroids for a hobby. Grow up son, you act the fool and write like one also. Stay away from drugs and go back to school.

Posted by: Trouble

"i dont work for a damn company u girl."

*squint*

Did you just call me a girl?

(should I be offended or blush happily at that crack??)

Posted by: ubercoach

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

First off it is not wise to taike steroids for a hobby. Grow up son, you act the fool and write like one also. Stay away from drugs and go back to school.

You should also apologoze to Trouble for your rude gender disequitous remark. This MAN found it very offensive and extremely inappropriate.

Ubercoach

Posted by: Trouble

(When in doubt, move the thread; I conveniently remembered that SD is a supplement, at least in this forum)

Aye, an odd, yet somehow appealing avatar. Foreman specializes in them, UC.

Thank-you for your support.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Originally Posted by ubercoach

You should also apologoze to Trouble for your rude gender disequitous remark. This MAN found it very offensive and extremely inappropriate.

Ubercoach

I doubt she is offended by anything I say to her son. Now why don't you go play in traffic.

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

disregarding the petty online argument, im just gonna go with this cycle.
20/30/30 so its short but sweet. anyways, im done with this thread, the original response is all i got outta this.. sadly it was only 3 words.. but i guess thats what u get because other people appear to actually care about their status on a forum site.. im out unless someone has something beneficial and on topic to post.

hey foreman, u dip, nice rick james pic and lesbo image, what are you a lil 16 year old white suburb boy, aww isn't that cute...

btw -foreman: "2122 posts ( in one day) on 10/13/2005....did it in about 15 hours..." = virgin.

go pick on someone who cares, end.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Originally Posted by mrmarkmitch

hey foreman, u dip, nice rick james pic and lesbo image, what are you a lil 16 year old white suburb boy, aww isn't that cute...

btw -foreman: "2122 posts ( in one day) on 10/13/2005....did it in about 15 hours..." = virgin.

go pick on someone who cares, end.

How did you know I was a 16 year old Virgen???

Posted by: Trouble

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I doubt she is offended by anything I say to her son. Now why don't you go play in traffic.

UC wasn't commenting on your post, other than to compliment you in the caption of his comment to this thread. He has commenting on MMM. UC meant that you (this MAN) found the gender comments to be offensive. I don't think your read on MMM's previous comment addressed gender slights at all (in fact, it appears that MMM was posting a general slur against a number of us).

Posted by: chronicelite

I still think you steroid users need not be proud that you need steroids to see any gains. Instead you waltz around here thinking you're better than everyone else and start downtalking the people trying to get into it. So instead, the people go off and do the PH's or roids in SPITE of your negative comments and end up fucking up their bodies and having early closing of their growth plates. When you could've had at least somebody doing it correctly, but now they've got liver disease or high cholesterol and will suffer from a heart attack soon.

Posted by: BigPapaPump68

Originally Posted by chronicelite

I still think you steroid users need not be proud that you need steroids to see any gains. Instead you waltz around here thinking you're better than everyone else and start downtalking the people trying to get into it. So instead, the people go off and do the PH's or roids in SPITE of your negative comments and end up fucking up their bodies and having early closing of their growth plates. When you could've had at least somebody doing it correctly, but now they've got liver disease or high cholesterol and will suffer from a heart attack soon.

Maybe if they would actully listen and do research because steroids are not something to take lightly by no means then maybe we would be able to help them out better. Why should we help them if they don't want to help there selves? Also, we don't think that we are better than anybody else and don't know where you got that from.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Originally Posted by chronicelite

I still think you steroid users need not be proud that you need steroids to see any gains. Instead you waltz around here thinking you're better than everyone else and start downtalking the people trying to get into it. So instead, the people go off and do the PH's or roids in SPITE of your negative comments and end up fucking up their bodies and having early closing of their growth plates. When you could've had at least somebody doing it correctly, but now they've got liver disease or high cholesterol and will suffer from a heart attack soon.

If they f-up there bodys it's there problem not ours......only a dumb shit would use steroids before 21 and ...before 6+ years of hard natural training.

Posted by: mrmarkmitch

Ive only done one cycle of SD, before that, ive had about 7+ years of regular supplements and hard natural training. (I was a gymnast long ago-pommel horse) Im not doing SD to become a monster, nor am I doing it because Im unable to get gains naturally, I like it because it is cheaper than my normal stack, yes I enjoy the additional gains, but it's just that I'm tired of spending a lot of money just to get quasi-effective results, I dont want to be 6'1 260, I want to be 6'1 215/220 (stay at that weight) and SD will help me get there without blowing my wallet. I want to do it right, which is why I purchased nolva/perfect cycle/coq10 ect; my wallet is rather full and my results seemed to be fine w/o sides last time. I admit tho, after or before my next cycle I will get lab work done, but the first cycle I didn't cycle quite correctly enough, even though I still didn't notice any sides, obveously I will keep a close eye on this next cycle w/the best preperation possible. thanks to the people who have helped people like me b/c sd for the most part is supposidly one of the better choices as far as safety according to most knoledgeable people. I'm not a pro or amateur bb, but I definately get the affirmation and self fulfillment from myself as it is. Personally, I don't think I'd want to go farther than SD, but I agree, young people should stay away from it, part shame on me, which is why I promised myself to not cycle more than once a year if I stick with it, I still am amazingly happy w/my previous gains.
anyways, ill continue to research it all until im 100 percent sure about my status. I don't think most steroids users deserve credit, but a few impress me with knoledge to the point that I'm just in awe with amicability. I will admit tho, natural guys deserve credit, but certain roiders equally acquire dedication and effort due to their seemingly exuberant knowledge base.

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