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Posted by: Mudge

This was posted recently by someone who was banned. The article is worthy of re-posting, and I hate to ban someone who didn't outwardly cause trouble, however their username and profile made it pretty clear what kind of business they were in and how to purchase illegal goods from them. This isn't that kind of board, those types of boards ARE out there if they wanted to post there. But if you spend 5 minutes, or even ask directly, if that is OK then this person would have known that it wasn't OK to advertise like that here.

That said, here is the article for anyone who would enjoy having access to it, or for those who haven't yet read it.
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Monday, August 14, 2006

Steroid laws were already far too tough on people. But if the new temporary laws made by Congress do become a reality as expected, one has to really wonder what kind of world we live in.

For burglary, a person can get as little as three months in jail. Punishments for rape can be as low as four years in prison. For armed robbery, those involved can get as light of a sentence as five years in prison. For some murders, people can get off with as little as ten years served in prison. And now, for having enough steroids in your possession to be deemed a dealer, you could get nailed for 25 years in prison. What is going on in America!!??

As you’ve probably already heard, the U.S. Sentencing Commission decided that the steroid “problem” has gotten so out of control that emergency measures were needed. So out of control that they passed the temporary laws to curtail that use to the tune of a twenty-fold increase in punishments for injectable steroids and a fifty-fold increase in punishments for oral steroids. So to sum this up, being caught with a few of bottles of juice could possibly land you in prison for a very, very long time.

And while most of these new temporary laws are aimed at coaches, dealers, and suppliers, there is still the potential for the lines between having steroids for personal use and having steroids with the intention of selling them to become blurred. There are enough outs in the new temporary laws (expected to be made permanent in November) that someone who simply had a large stockpile of steroids for personal use could be put in a cell with a murderer or rapist. They could have to spend 15 to 25 years of their life behind a set of steel bars with just a few hours of freedom everyday to eat prison slop or workout with second rate equipment. And for what? Trying to build a muscular body or look as good as they possibly can.

How can this be considered justice? In the United States, a top-level executive can get away with embezzling a million dollars and spend just four or five years in prison under the banner of white collar crime. Think about this, an already rich person has just stolen a ton of money yet is likely to spend even less time behind bars than a steroid user who got nabbed for having a bit too much juice on their hands. It’s plain to see that the “war on drugs” campaign throughout the 90’s never officially ended, it just switched its focus to a new direction.

Other than the few people like my friend and attorney Rick Collins and his legal partners out there, steroids have no voice of reason among the lawmakers and politicians and so any drugs that could potentially be labeled as a steroid are immediately condemned. Steroids are an easy target to attack and bashing them can often give certain members of Congress the all important media coverage that they need to promote themselves.

For the most part, the media isn’t non-biased either as they’ve used negative stories dealing with the subject of steroids to sell millions of newspapers, magazines, books as well as hundreds of advertising slots on television. How many times have you seen a feature story on steroids with an athlete who used steroids to better his or herself and, at the end of their sports career, went on to live a successful life. Never! The closest thing to this ever was when Arnold Schwarzenegger was interviewed about his years of steroid use and he said if he could do it all over again, he’d have still used steroids.

The fact is that every athlete featured in a steroid story always ends up getting hurt, crippled, sick, or even worse, winds up dead. And the reader is always led to the conclusion that steroids killed the person, not their own negligence. A person’s overdose of insulin or the use of extremely dangerous substances like DNP aren’t usually mentioned in these articles; just that they were using steroids when they got hurt is all that is said.

Yes, these stories are very tragic and it is always sad to see a person end up in a hospital bed because they received really bad advice. But it’s important for the average person who doesn’t juice to realize that steroids like any drugs can be very beneficial when used properly. And when used improperly, they can have consequences just like any other drug.

Take for example, when a North Carolina community college student overdosed on caffeine pills by taking 90 of them and died not soon after. Does this mean that caffeine pills should be made a schedule III drug and become punishable by jail or prison time? No, it simply means that this was a very unfortunate and rare event but definitely could have been prevented had this student not abused the drug and been more knowledgeable about what he was doing at the time.

The same is evident in steroid cases where the media uses isolated and rare events to coerce the masses into believing that steroids are evil and dangerous. It only takes one person to screw up and the doors are flung wide open for all kinds of criticism and scrutiny. This then leaves politicians with the power to make ridiculous laws, such as the ones that are prevalent now with regards to steroids, and get away with it.
And what is the end of all this? More losses of our freedoms in America. Everyone of us knows that we should have the choice of whether or not to use steroids in order to construct our bodies the way we want them. No one or no law needs to protect us from something that we already know can be used without incident as long as one is informed. Unfortunately, despite these truths, we will all have to hope for a miracle in November just so these ridiculous beefed up steroid laws never become permanent.

U.S. Anabolic Steroid Punishments Increased!
Excerpt from SteroidLaw.com by Rick Collins

The U.S. Sentencing Commission has published notice of temporary "emergency" (i.e., immediate) amendments to the federal anabolic steroid sentencing guidelines. Henceforth, injectable and oral steroids will be quantified for punishment in a 1:1 ratio to other Schedule III drugs, resulting in a twenty-fold measurement increase for injectable steroid units and a fifty-fold increase for oral steroid units. One "unit" of an oral steroid is now one pill, tablet or capsule. One "unit of a liquid steroid is now 0.5ml. Steroids in other forms ("e.g., patch, topical cream, aerosol") will be reasonably estimated based on a consideration of 25mg as one unit. Additionally, sentencing enhancements will apply in cases involving distribution to "athletes" or where coaches use their positions to influence athletes to use steroids, as well as in cases involving "masking agents." While likely to impact dealers more than personal users, the new 1:1 ratio nonetheless ignores fundamental differences between steroid usage and volume patterns as compared to other Schedule III drugs. Other problems with the amendments include the lack of any reference to potency in oral or injectable steroids, potentially leading to black market adaptations to circumvent the amendment (e.g., the creation of high potency "mega-pills"), as well as the lack of any knowledge requirement involving distribution (e.g., via the Internet) to unidentified customers who may turn out to be athletes. It is expected that the revisions will be made permanent by Congress in November.

Posted by: Trouble

The Forum Rules are posted permanently, in clear sight on this subforum. Had the banned poster read them before registering, he would have known the consequences.

Thank-you for posting this article.

Posted by: Pirate!

They have to burn the witches after they hunt them. I don't ever plan to buy gear again, so it's no sweat for me. I hate to see such injustice, though.

Posted by: Mudge

Buying powder is a nice easy way to get labled as a dealer. Its happened at least once.

Dbol used to be an old toughie, because they generically had a set 'unit count' method, so those using dbol to the tune of 5-10 per day were easily buying 1000 units at a time.

Posted by: Tough Old Man

Funny. Less then a ounce of weed in Calif will land you a written ticket and about a $75 fine. Go figure.

Posted by: Pirate!

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Funny. Less then a ounce of weed in Calif will land you a written ticket and about a $75 fine. Go figure.

If pot helped people win gold metals, it would be different. The only thing pot helps you do better is empty the fridge and laugh at shit that wouldn't otherwise be funny.

Posted by: VMSEddieF

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Originally Posted by Pirate!

If pot helped people win gold metals, it would be different. The only thing pot helps you do better is empty the fridge and laugh at shit that wouldn't otherwise be funny.

lol.

Its so sad though about the self improving stuff. Take people that have reason for needing it but cant because its not approved for certain disorders. Doctors cant write the script even if they agree it would help if used properly.

So the aids spreading junky or family wrecking coke dealer gets less time then someone building others up. Ya there's another sign of our presidents intelligence.

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by Pirate!

If pot helped people win gold metals, it would be different. The only thing pot helps you do better is empty the fridge and laugh at shit that wouldn't otherwise be funny.

You underestimate pot greatly. Pot has more benefits than you know, but because you already have that bias toward it, you won’t see it that way. It is very similar to how the people listed in this article are bias towards steroids, so they will never know the truth either. Don't get caught in the same closed minded way of thinking.

Posted by: 19-chief

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Originally Posted by 19-chief

we are talking about the web here... always changing. i wouldn't count on anything... you are mucher safer if you succumb to the steroid paranoia and realize that you are taking a large risk no matter how you obtain, possess, and utilize aas.

sad but true.

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