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Posted by: SpeedyReedy5

I'm actually feeling like I hit plateus when I work on like 8 week programs. I know diet and protein intake and everything else have a lot to do with gains, my question is, "How often are you guys switching up your workouts?"



Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by SpeedyReedy5 View Post
I'm actually feeling like I hit plateus when I work on like 8 week programs. I know diet and protein intake and everything else have a lot to do with gains, my question is, "How often are you guys switching up your workouts?"
I periodize my program weekly. So exercises stay the same for 8-12 weeks. Rep ranges change weekly for me. After 4 weeks I wash, rinse, repeat. If I keep seeing really good gains and I am enjoying my workouts I keep on keepin on...If I get bored or there are other things I want to try...I switch it up.



Posted by: SpeedyReedy5

Thanks a lot I will give that a try anything at this point to see some new results.



Posted by: fufu

I change things up a bit every 4 weeks. About every 3 months I'll pick a ton of different movements to start doing.



Posted by: P-funk

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I change things up a bit every 4 weeks. About every 3 months I'll pick a ton of different movements to start doing.
thanks for your input.



Posted by: SpeedyReedy5

what do you mean by different movements?



Posted by: P-funk

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what do you mean by different movements?
I think he means like he benches...then might switch it to DBs or incline etc....he changes the exrecises.

I don't know for sure what he means. I am not a kitty kat.



Posted by: fufu

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what do you mean by different movements?
I'll do something like: front squats, bb bench, olympic squats, lunges, DB rows, chin ups

then I'll do something like: db bench, PL squats, bulgarian squats, pull-ups, cable rows

This is just an example.



Posted by: fufu

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I think he means like he benches...then might switch it to DBs or incline etc....he changes the exrecises.

I don't know for sure what he means. I am not a kitty kat.
Kikis are people too!

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thanks for your input.
Glad I could oblige!



Posted by: PWGriffin

Someone put into words the difference between olympic and PL squats...I've seen a vid and the main difference I saw was that one person leaned forward more and perhaps squatted lower....

Are they so different??



Posted by: fufu

To my knowledge, olympic squats entail a narrow stance with knees pointed more forward and the bar sits higher on the traps. A PL squat entails a wider stance with knees/toes pointed out more and the bar sits lower on the posterior delts.

Olympic squats focus more heavily on the quads while a PL squat will engage the hips more, I believe.



Posted by: PWGriffin

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To my knowledge, olympic squats entail a narrow stance with knees pointed more forward and the bar sits higher on the traps. A PL squat entails a wider stance with knees/toes pointed out more and the bar sits lower on the posterior delts.

Olympic squats focus more heavily on the quads while a PL squat will engage the hips more, I believe.
ah, thank you!! Well that means I'm doing olympic squats for sure then...I used to PL squats and then narrowed my stance and pointed my toes forward....heh....I switched movements and never even knew it...


So with me say, squatting 255 for reps O style....ATG mind you...could I prolly max way over 300 PL style??



Posted by: fufu

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ah, thank you!! Well that means I'm doing olympic squats for sure then...I used to PL squats and then narrowed my stance and pointed my toes forward....heh....I switched movements and never even knew it...


So with me say, squatting 255 for reps O style....ATG mind you...could I prolly max way over 300 PL style??


I'm not quite sure what the carry over is, but I believe you can move more weight PL style after getting used it. It really depends on what you train for though, it's difficult to call that out.



Posted by: PWGriffin

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I'm not quite sure what the carry over is, but I believe you can move more weight PL style after getting used it. It really depends on what you train for though, it's difficult to call that out.
See I picked up a book here and there, and the squats were done O style....so I thought I was doing them in poor form, I had been doing PL style squats since I started squatting, it was more comfortable for me to point my toes out a little and stand with feet a little further apart. After seeing it portrayed differently, I switched and have been doing them this way ever since...I find it much more difficult.



Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin View Post
ah, thank you!! Well that means I'm doing olympic squats for sure then...I used to PL squats and then narrowed my stance and pointed my toes forward....heh....I switched movements and never even knew it...


So with me say, squatting 255 for reps O style....ATG mind you...could I prolly max way over 300 PL style??
not exactly. it is still a learned technique. I can't do a powerlifter squat for shit because I don't handle the weight well when my stance is that wide. I can squat way more OL style then PL style.



Posted by: CowPimp

I like to change the loading parameters frequently. I generally use some form of undulating periodization. When performing a full body program, or anything that is higher frequency for that matter, I will alternate among a few different parameters from session to session. When using a low frequency traditional bodybuilding split, something like the type of periodization used in gopro's P-RR-S program is good. I call this alternating periodization, but some might refer to it as undulating periodization as well.



Posted by: PWGriffin

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I like to change the loading parameters frequently. I generally use some form of undulating periodization. When performing a full body program, or anything that is higher frequency for that matter, I will alternate among a few different parameters from session to session. When using a low frequency traditional bodybuilding split, something like the type of periodization used in gopro's P-RR-S program is good. I call this alternating periodization, but some might refer to it as undulating periodization as well.
Give an example of undulating periodization. I don't know if I quite get it.



Posted by: CowPimp

Changing loading paramters in a non-linear manner. Monday 4x8, Wednesday 3x10, Friday 6x3.



Posted by: wilwn

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not exactly. it is still a learned technique. I can't do a powerlifter squat for shit because I don't handle the weight well when my stance is that wide. I can squat way more OL style then PL style.
hey P, i tend to be able to squat more with a wide stance, so that's what i always do. is that necessarily a bad thing?



Posted by: P-funk

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hey P, i tend to be able to squat more with a wide stance, so that's what i always do. is that necessarily a bad thing?
I don't think it is a bad thing to favor one stance over another, no.

Some say that you should use both types of squatting (wide and olympic) and both types of deadlifting (sumo and conventional) as a way to build overall hip strength. I don't prefer the wide stuff (squatting wide or sumo deads) at all. it just hurts my hips and it doesn't feel right. So, I don't do it. I build my hip strength with other exercises. If you are comfortable with a wider stance then go for it. I would just be careful about going to wide as it can put a lot of stress on the hip joint...most of the guys that squat and deadlift real wide wear squatter briefs and/or squat suits to help keep everything tight and in line.



Posted by: wilwn

cool, thanks.



Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by SpeedyReedy5 View Post
I'm actually feeling like I hit plateus when I work on like 8 week programs. I know diet and protein intake and everything else have a lot to do with gains, my question is, "How often are you guys switching up your workouts?"

My routine changes just about every time. I try and keep the basics in the mix, but everything else subs in and out. I usually change my routine splits every 6-8 weeks unless I'm in a split that's still kickin in high gear...



Posted by: SpeedyReedy5

thanks for the advice guys i just hate when you work so hard and start seeing minimal results, i guess i just have to switch it up a little more often



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