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Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

Pics of him been making the rounds in the bodybuilding boards lately, but nobody knows anything about him, except for one online Russian newspaper article saying he's turned 18 now:

(lol @ those 2 other kids in the background are like "ohhhh craaaap")

(here he's doing an overall showdown with the adult class winners)

Well, I'm blown away. I swear if I looked at his face alone I wouldn't think he was a day over 16. Last time anything impressed me this much was when Britain's James Lewis came onto the scene years ago as a 19 year old. This is like Russia's equivalent. I think we'll be hearing a lot about this brat in the future.

Posted by: TJ Cline

That is some good photoshop

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

LOL, it's not a photoshop job, they're pictures from an official Russian coverage gallery. See the entire show gallery here: http://www.body-building.ru/copper/t...s.php?album=92

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Ralph P Morrico

LOL, it's not a photoshop job, they're pictures from an official Russian coverage gallery. See the entire show gallery here: http://www.body-building.ru/copper/t...s.php?album=92

Who knows for sure??? All I know is he could be 18 or 28 and he could be real or photoshop. If he is 19 or less then I just feel sorry for him, abusing GH and roids at that age is just pathetic.

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

Oh, of course, you'll never know for sure, even if you met him he could lie about his age. But, I typically go by beyond reasonable doubt, in this case his pics are on an official Russian bodybuilding site and this is the news article that had his age at turned 18 (and also an earlier pic of him during offseason bulk). That's enough for me.

As for drugs, I also wouldn't call every huge kid a druggie; he shows no overly sharp jaw, disdented abs, excessive vascularity, gyno or any other visible potential symptoms of their use. I wouldn't make a case for him either, but I've known enough naturally huge guys in my time to know not to throw roids comments around at every oversize brat who comes by. If he said he was natural I'd believe it.

Posted by: mrmark

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Originally Posted by Ralph P Morrico

Oh, of course, you'll never know for sure, even if you met him he could lie about his age. But, I typically go by beyond reasonable doubt, in this case his pics are on an official Russian bodybuilding site and this is the news article that had his age at turned 18 (and also an earlier pic of him during offseason bulk). That's enough for me.

As for drugs, I also wouldn't call every huge kid a druggie; he shows no overly sharp jaw, disdented abs, excessive vascularity, gyno or any other visible potential symptoms of their use. I wouldn't make a case for him either, but I've known enough naturally huge guys in my time to know not to throw roids comments around at every oversize brat who comes by. If he said he was natural I'd believe it.

Are you really suggesting that an 18 year old could achieve that physique without steroids?

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

Well, like I said, I've known enough naturally huge guys in my time to know not to throw roids comments around at every oversize brat who comes by. One of my best friends in high school was almost as strong as the top powerlifters in the school, and he barely ever worked out. All the guys in his family were over 7 feet tall and although he had a relatively high bodyfat percentage, his muscles were huge and solid as rock. He had a temper sometimes and punched through solid oak wall once. Another friend in cross country only ever ran and his legs were almost as big as people's waists. He had a kinda comical body because his upper was so small compared to his lower, which grew huge just from his running and walking around all the time. In fact, his legs were probably better than this guy's although he was taller so they didn't look as proportionally thick. Anyway, just two of many reasons why, if this guy said he was natural, I'd believe it. In fact, my brother's got a similar thing going on with calves and thighs, and his calves bigger than this kid's but he never exercises and has like 6 beers a day and only started cleaning up his diet after ending up hospitalized for a few days after some relatively important stuff shut down temporarily due to malnourishment (unfortunately, I've not been blessed with such genetics, and I have to work hard for my build). And yes I realize 95% of people couldn't pull off this physique no matter how hard they tried, but in all of Russia, one kid who's this size at 18 doesn't seem like a big stretch. There's far more to physical development than age. So, yes I guess I am suggesting that, but not just "an" 18 year old; one of a rare few fully mesomorphics.

Posted by: mrmark

Ralph, i can appreciate many aspects of the story you just told, especially about the fat+strong kinda guy but this kid is at the level of pros much older than he is. Just because he says he's natural doesn't make it true, just as the adverts in Flex with Jay saying 'I use only mega mass 5000!' isn't necessarily true either.

As foreman said, if he truly is 18, then although he maybe getting in the game nice and early, what sacrifices has he made to get there through 'assisted' methods?

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

Nah, he's awesome for sure, but he probably wouldn't place in a pro-show line-up of adults. Put a photo of him next to any pro and you'll realize how small he is by comparison. Maybe I'll make a comparison as a point of reference, but I'm too tired now.

I don't know about assisted methods, there's too little info besides "omg huge muscles" to make any kind of accusation, so I simply refrain. I believe it's possible without drug/illegal assists because I've seen such potential all over the place (even if it wasn't always met), and so I leave it at that until a reason beyond "he's big" comes up to question the naturality.

Posted by: P-funk

If those aren't photo shopped I would say that you have to be pretty naive to believe that an 18yr old can attain a physique like that without the use of drugs. Absolutely no way in hell.

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

Well, like I said, not just "an" or any random 18 year old. I don't have anything to add to the previous posts.

Anyway I didn't even mean to go that direction in the first place, just thought I'd share the most impressive thing I'd seen in teen bodybuilding in years and see if anybody else knew some stats or info on the dude, since it seems odd somebody that phenomenal would be so obscure.

Posted by: mrmark

Couldn't find a name for that 'kid' but if he is real, and not just photoshopped, then I'm sure he'll popping up again soon.

Posted by: P-funk

I still don't know. Looking at that first picture, the head looks super imposed on the body. it looks like a choppy photo shop job.

Posted by: lnvanry

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I still don't know. Looking at that first picture, the head looks super imposed on the body. it looks like a choppy photo shop job.

He must take celltech

Posted by: Ralph P Morrico

The name was in the news article, if you can't read it, the name is Alexey Lesukov, or Lesha for short nick version of Alexey. Google has no info, which isn't surprising since anything about him is probably in Russian and would have to be searched for using a Russian search engine and the Russian character set. But apparently this was his first show, so you'll probably be hearing more in years to come.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Ralph P Morrico

Well, like I said, I've known enough naturally huge guys in my time to know not to throw roids comments around at every oversize brat who comes by. One of my best friends in high school was almost as strong as the top powerlifters in the school, and he barely ever worked out. All the guys in his family were over 7 feet tall and although he had a relatively high bodyfat percentage, his muscles were huge and solid as rock. He had a temper sometimes and punched through solid oak wall once. Another friend in cross country only ever ran and his legs were almost as big as people's waists. He had a kinda comical body because his upper was so small compared to his lower, which grew huge just from his running and walking around all the time. In fact, his legs were probably better than this guy's although he was taller so they didn't look as proportionally thick. Anyway, just two of many reasons why, if this guy said he was natural, I'd believe it. In fact, my brother's got a similar thing going on with calves and thighs, and his calves bigger than this kid's but he never exercises and has like 6 beers a day and only started cleaning up his diet after ending up hospitalized for a few days after some relatively important stuff shut down temporarily due to malnourishment (unfortunately, I've not been blessed with such genetics, and I have to work hard for my build). And yes I realize 95% of people couldn't pull off this physique no matter how hard they tried, but in all of Russia, one kid who's this size at 18 doesn't seem like a big stretch. There's far more to physical development than age. So, yes I guess I am suggesting that, but not just "an" 18 year old; one of a rare few fully mesomorphics.

I'm 8 feet tall and once got so mad I beat up a Lion and ate it raw. MY shoe size is 25 and I can shit Gold.

Posted by: fufu

True Story. You can also make one hell of a pepper omelet with your mind powers.

Posted by: BigDyl

True Story, one time Foreman miltary pressed an 18 wheeler for reps--warmup weight.

Posted by: musclepump

Poor kid. I wonder how tall he would have been.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Poor kid. I wonder how tall he would have been.

My guess is 8 to 9 feet tall

Posted by: Gazhole

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I'm 8 feet tall and once got so mad I beat up a Lion and ate it raw. MY shoe size is 25 and I can shit Gold.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If he is 19 or less then I just feel sorry for him, abusing GH and roids at that age is just pathetic.

why can't it be genetics?

Posted by: viet_jon

PHOTOSHOP'd imo

Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

why can't it be genetics?

Because no one has the genetics for that.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Because no one has the genetics for that.

how do you know?

Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

how do you know?

Because I'm all-knowing? The human body isn't made to do that naturally at such a young age. Hormones such as the old favorite myostatin prevent it; the thyroid, pituitary gland, the insulin sensitivity and properties of the somatomedin receptor; he would have to have many, many absurdly rare genetic deformities to do that.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by musclepump

what if he has an "inactive" myostatin gene?

Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

what if he has an "inactive" myostatin gene?

Then that's one piece of the equation; for someone to have all the genetic changes to do achieve that, at that age, naturally, I think would be impossible.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Because no one has the genetics for that.

I agree 100%

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree 100%

I disagree 100%.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I disagree 100%.

Not to flame you but if you think he is natural then you have no idea about bodybuilding at all. Pluss no idea about the natural human body.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not to flame you but if you think he is natural then you have no idea about bodybuilding at all. Pluss no idea about the natural human body.

I think it's possible that he is "natural", that is quite different than me truley thinking or believing he is natural.

I think you underestimate the human body and genetics. I have seen a few "freaks" in my time that you and I both would have sworn up and down were on drugs, that is why I am not as quick as you to doubt.

Posted by: shiznit2169

Not to mention, if you look back in history up until this point today, humans are getting bigger and stronger over the decades. Today's 12-13 year old kids are growing to be 6+ inches tall and they are fully grown and mature. Take a look at the little league world series. There's a kid on the Saudi Arabia team who is 6'8" with a size 19 shoe.

Back then, the majority of the population was not as big and strong as today's generation. Hockey was more finesse back then but now it's fast and brutally rough. Same with football.

I'm not saying the kid is natural or he's on drugs. But it can be possible if he has freakish genetics. Even if he juices, who cares? His physique is stunning but to be that big at a young age is sort of a waste. He should be out enjoying his life while he can rather than focusing every ounce of energy in the gym and in the kitchen.

Posted by: 2JZ

I read up on him where he claims to have "tried steroids" but never followed through with full cycles.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I think it's possible that he is "natural", that is quite different than me truley thinking or believing he is natural.

I think you underestimate the human body and genetics. I have seen a few "freaks" in my time that you and I both would have sworn up and down were on drugs, that is why I am not as quick as you to doubt.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by 2JZ

I read up on him where he claims to have "tried steroids" but never followed through with full cycles.

Is he the son of Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Nate K

I would believe 20-with no steroids but not 18.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Nate K

I would believe 20-with no steroids but not 18.

Posted by: lnvanry

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Is he the son of Bill Clinton?

post of the week

Posted by: FishOrCutBait

pics 5 and 6 the edges of his head are really grainy

Posted by: lnvanry

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pics 5 and 6 the edges of his head are really grainy

thats how you're supposed to look...thats how you look when you pull 10lbs of water in 24hrs.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

dude, you think anyone bigger than you is on roids!

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

dude, you think anyone bigger than you is on roids!

It's not the kids size it is the look of his body that is chemical. But yes at 18 he is bigger than 90% of the pros in the 70's so I think he is on the gass.

Posted by: SuperFlex

Anyone know what size he is? Dude is a straight pimp...

Posted by: Deeznuts

These pictures are in no way photoshoped and are in fact from an actual contest. The kid's name is Alexey Lesukov.

He obviously has some outstanding genetics. With that quality of muscle, at his age, anabolics are in question, but how many pros do you know that DIDN'T start that early or earlier? Not many.

Posted by: Tatyana

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Originally Posted by mrmark

Are you really suggesting that an 18 year old could achieve that physique without steroids?

There are a couple 18 year old boys in my gym with freaky great physiques who haven't done any gear and haven't trained that hard.

I will see if James will let me take a pic of his arms for this thread. HUGE! And a really nice shape. He doesn't do legs though

SO if you started at 13, it is possible.

Most people do think it is gear though.

His shoulders do not have that rounded look either, and the nose often changes as well.

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