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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
I'd be suprised if he made it to the 7th pick, of course Brian Westbrook made it back around to the 24th in one of my leagues....
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
I'd be suprised if he made it to the 7th pick, of course Brian Westbrook made it back around to the 24th in one of my leagues....
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I will take Tiki if he's there. If he is not then who do you guys think? Larry Johnson, L.T, Shaun A., Peyton will all be gone.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Yeah Tiki went early on in my draft too. I got last pick of course. Not bad because I get 2 consecutive picks so I took Peyton & Rudi Johnson. I wanted LT, Shaun Alexander or Larry Johnson because I've never had a RB as good as them in any of my leagues ever. I always get Tiki but he never had a real productive year before last. How is the scoring in your league set up? Is it for Money??
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Wow you got Peyton and Rudi at last pick. How big is your league? You must of have some WR go early. This is my first year participating in FF. I believe the scoring is a point every 10 yards. Yes we all put 100$ in.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Wow you got Peyton and Rudi at last pick. How big is your league? You must of have some WR go early. This is my first year participating in FF. I believe the scoring is a point every 10 yards. Yes we all put 100$ in.
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Originally Posted by Dub guy
By the looks of the picks....thats a pretty rookie league.....I am in 6 leagues Peyton Manning is always gone in the first 3 picks along with Larry Johnson Shaun Alexander and LT.
At 7th pick I would have been gunning for Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Edgerine James, Chad Johnson Steve Smith , Randy Moss or T.O |
. And I'd never pick TO unless it was after like the 4th or 5th round. Dude is completely unpredictable. Look at the shit he has already pulled in the preseason. Running back always first. Golden rule. Peyton is one acception.
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
Rudi should get alot of scores and yards in that offense. Plus, Doublebase got a nice QB-WR connection with Culpepper and Chambers.
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Originally Posted by Dub guy
By the looks of the picks....thats a pretty rookie league.....I am in 6 leagues Peyton Manning is always gone in the first 3 picks along with Larry Johnson Shaun Alexander and LT.
At 7th pick I would have been gunning for Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Edgerine James, Chad Johnson Steve Smith , Randy Moss or T.O |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Taking a QB first is horrible advice. I waited until the 6th round to grab a QB. Your best bet is taking RB's that get thrown to alot (at least in leagues where receptions are rewarded.) and wide recievers. I took running backs all the way through the 4th round. Of course the biggest thing to think about is each player's bye week. You don't want to have to scramble to find a backup on week 3 when LaDanian Tomlinson is on his bye week.
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Originally Posted by Dub guy
I have used many draft methods...and have won quite a few fantasy football leagues. QB always yeild high numbers so I always draft a good QB first and then go with RBs. If you can get a standout WR its not a bad choice.
To say Randy Moss or T.O are bad picks is stupid......they are great WR that when playing on the money have great fantasy value. The picking running back strategy is widely used.....but i think it can be over rated too. there are many players at many position that can bring great fantasy value. One great player wont get you a win ....it the sum of all your players that will yeild wins. if you draft crappy at rounds 5-9....you can be dead in the water even if you had Larry Johnson and Peyton Manning playing in top form. |
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
I'm not sure what to do about portis because my roster has to be in an hour before the kickoff of the first game and they haven't said if he was gonna start yet. So do I keep Duckett and Betts in or do I keep Portis and Duckett or Portis and R. white. Shit... |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
You're good. You still got over three days I'm sure they'll make a call by Saturday night being that it's week 1. I can't stand "Questionable."
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
I just completely LOATHE Eli Manning because he and daddy screwed with the integrity of the NFL Draft. Daddy's Boy!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
No, I only have till tommorow. I have to put my team together an hour before the first game of the week, which is thurs night.
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Originally Posted by bigss75
You must of forgot John Elway and what he did to get out of going to the browns.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Should I drop Culpepper and pick up Rex Grossman? Chicago's QB.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Should I drop Culpepper and pick up Rex Grossman? Chicago's QB.
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Originally Posted by the nut
I would take him just because they have 4 more games in that shitty division. Chicago looks like they gonna pass a lot. Miami is gonna keep pushing Ronnie Brown. But, I don't like Cullpepper without Moss anyway.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Chambers > Moss
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
I'll tell you what, my team is kicking ass today. I have 142 points so far and I still have Plax, Portis and Betts going. My opponent only has 72 points and has R. Moss and S. Moss going tomorrow. I figure I'll end up with probably around 155 - 170 points after tomorrow night.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I decided to drop my back up TE Chris Baker (NYJ) to pick up Grossman. I now have Eli, Culpepper, Grossman. Who the hell should I start?
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Chambers > Moss
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Cullpepper no doubt. They have the Titans at home.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Seriouly??? Maybe you're right. Eli has been doing really well though. He is playing a tough Defense but hey the Eagles were a tough D and he pulled still scored huge. You would actually sit Eli and put Culpepper in.
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Manning is on a team that is going places. Culpepper is on a team that isn't. Learning a new O with a surrounding cast that isn't that good, which isn't the case with the Giants.
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
I wouldn't start Culpepper over Manning. Culpepper has a shitty, non-scoring offense. That doesn't fix itself overnight. Trust me, I'm a long suffering Lion's fan
Manning is on a team that is going places. Culpepper is on a team that isn't. Learning a new O with a surrounding cast that isn't that good, which isn't the case with the Giants. |
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Originally Posted by the nut
FatCatMC you've gotta be a Dolphins fan... Culpepper is a disaster, how can you start him over Eli? The Titans are definitely shitty, but he hasn't shown me anything. He's lost a step or 5 this year, and holds onto the ball way to long. Not to mention, there is no chemistry with Chambers yet.
Eli will be a top 3 fantasy passer when all is said and done this year. He may have a bad game or two but he's gonna have a serious year, especially with all the talent that surrounds him. Seattle the type of team that can shut down the Giants on the ground, and force them to put the ball in the air like last week. And nothing's worse than sitting your top guy because that's what the numbers say to do, and then he screws you and puts up a huge week. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Eli has had 2 good fantasy games, one by the skin of his teeth
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Originally Posted by the nut
2 for 2 this year. Last year he was third in QB scoring and 8th in overall scoring... pretty consistant. For the record, I think the Dolphins are bottom dwellers this year, as well.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Maybe in your league. He wasn't in the top 10 in my leagues.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Overall differs from league to league, but cbssportsline, foxssports, yahoo, and nfl.com leagues all had him in top 8-15 in overall scoring. I use yahoo, he was 8th overall.
And no league could have many QBs ranked above him. Most had it Palmer first, Manning second, and either Hasselbeck or Eli in third and fourth. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
The comissioner for each individual league sets up the scoring system, not the host site. Eli threw 17 picks last year which is far from good. I'm willing to bet my leagues penalized INT's more than your leagues did?
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Originally Posted by the nut
-2 per int
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Hmm, mine too. How about passing TD's? Both of my leagues they = 4pts.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Mine too... And 1 pt for every 50 yards passing.
Who did your league have ranked above him? |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Palmer, Brady, Peyton, Trent Green, Jake Plummer, and Hasslebeck in both leagues.
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As of now I am going with Manning. I have Chambers so if Culpepper has a great game he will too. FatCat, Culpepper is just to risky. Manning has been doing great for me.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Trent Green
As of now I am going with Manning. I have Chambers so if Culpepper has a great game he will too. FatCat, Culpepper is just to risky. Manning has been doing great for me. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Trent Green had over 4000 yards passing last year....
Anyway, that's cool. I'm starting Daunte over Hasslebeck this week so I'll let ya know how it turned out. I've been hated in my leagues for making moves like this and having them working out in my favor, but there's always a chance it won't. Like I said before, I'm a gambler and I like Daunte's odds. |
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I appreciate the advice. I may change it. Who knows. I'm playing a pretty shitty team so I can afford to be risky. I just think after last weeks performance that Eli will have another big game. Culpepper, I just don't know. Are you sure you're not partial because you are close to Miami?
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
Go Culpepper. I hate the Dolphins too, but you have to play matchups with certain QB's and D/ST's in fantasy. You have to figure, Miami has played Pitt who has a top D and they Buffalo who also has a damn good D. Culpepper will have big games against bottom of the rung D's. Tenn has been getting crushed so figure Culpepper to have 250+ yds and 2+TD's.
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
Go Culpepper. I hate the Dolphins too, but you have to play matchups with certain QB's and D/ST's in fantasy. You have to figure, Miami has played Pitt who has a top D and they Buffalo who also has a damn good D. Culpepper will have big games against bottom of the rung D's. Tenn has been getting crushed so figure Culpepper to have 250+ yds and 2+TD's.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Not trying to stop you from start Culpepper, but thought you might be interested in this article from nfl.com today.
DON'T BE SURPRISED AT CULPEPPER'S NUMBERS When Daunte Culpepper was traded to the Dolphins, lots of people started to think Miami finally found the replacement for Dan Marino. Why? Because he threw the ball up to Randy Moss for a few years and the receiver out-rebounded the double coverage? Look, Culpepper is a fine athlete, but maybe the Vikings knew there was too much work to be done in a short period of time and the second-round pick Miami offered was just too tempting. Culpepper is duplicating his 2005 production and some people who ignored what was on film to study, elected to say they are 'surprised' rather than study the video. If you are going to listen to NFL experts, find out if they are studying his films before they speak! I believe Nick Saban will get the talented Culpepper straightened out in time to get the season going, but Culpepper is still just doing what he's been doing since Moss left for the Raiders. Check out these numbers if you don't believe Culpepper is still looking for Moss and unable to get the ball out of his hand. In 2005, his production was similar to 2006. Too bad that the perception was he'll deliver more at such an early stage in his development. Here's a look at Culpepper's numbers in '05 and '06: Year Games Attempts Completions TDs INTs Sacks Fumbles 2005 7 216 139 6 12 31 5 2006 2 69 41 1 3 10 2 In '05, Culpepper averaged 20 completions in 30 attempts. This year after two weeks, he's averaged 20 completions in 34 attempts. Last year, he averaged .08 TD pass per game. This year he's right on schedule at .05 TD per game. Now it gets even more eerie. Last year, he averaged 1.7 interceptions per game. In Miami, 1.5 picks per game. In 2005, he was sacked 4.4 times per game, with Miami he's gone down 5.0 per game. As a Viking, he fumbled just under one time per contest and right now the ball is on the ground one time per game. The next time you hear some so-called expert say he's 'surprised' about the start the Dolphins have had, question if he knows the history of Culpepper. Daunte Culpepper's struggles shouldn't be a surprise in taking a closer look at his numbers. Oh, by the way, remember Gus Frerotte? He was the Dolphins QB last year and was perceived as not good enough to take the Dolphins to the championship. He was 1-1 after two games in 2005 with an offensive line that might not have been as good as the line Culpepper has right now. He also threw three TD passes to two interceptions. Culpepper is two touchdown passes behind him. Frerotte was sacked just two times, less than the 10 Culpepper has logged, but he did fumble three times to Culpepper's two. Remember the six-game winning streak the Dolphins finished with last year? Frerotte was the QB the whole time and he connected on eight touchdown passes to just three interceptions during that stretch. The problem was the perception that Frerotte wasn't good enough. Someone once said Brad Johnson was done and he looks pretty good in Vikings uniform right now. A few years ago, if Gruden didn't take a chance on Rich Gannon, the Raiders would have never gone to the Super Bowl. The message is stop listening to guys who say they are surprised by the Dolphins right now and take a look at the facts that have led up to the situation. Finally, for second-round compensation, I probably would have traded for Culpepper and be willing to work with the strong-armed QB. But I would not be shocked if it was going to take some time to repair a guy coming to my franchise off a serious injury with an 11-16 record and 84 sacks in his previous 27 games. |
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Originally Posted by the nut
I gotta figure out who to start this week at WR...
Cotchery, Muhammed, J Walker, Moulds... Steve Smith may start but I don't know if I'll even consider him. Right now I'm leaning towards Muhammed and Walker. Any suggestions? |
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I'm starting to think I'm stupid to sit Eli Manning. Another one for you guys. My #1 RB is Rudi Johnson. Now who do I start this week as my #2 Domick Rhodes or Tatum Bell? I haven't used Domick Rhodes yet.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
I like Muhammed out of that group.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I'm starting to think I'm stupid to sit Eli Manning. Another one for you guys. My #1 RB is Rudi Johnson. Now who do I start this week as my #2 Domick Rhodes or Tatum Bell? I haven't used Domick Rhodes yet.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Eli had me worried but came though... Walker and Elam better put something together tonight.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I'm going to kill you FatCAT!!!
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I can't believe I won this week. The guy I played only scored 84 points. I scored 92. Ha. I'll take it.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Somebody tell me how I can have a 1 point lead going into Monday night with Dunn and Crumpler going against Colston for the other guy's team, and I end up with a tie! And yahoo is screwing me, they have Colston listed as TE/WR he is huge points for a TE.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Somebody tell me how I can have a 1 point lead going into Monday night with Dunn and Crumpler going against Colston for the other guy's team, and I end up with a tie! And yahoo is screwing me, they have Colston listed as TE/WR he is huge points for a TE.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Good job. I have 37 more total points than the closest person behind me and I'm 1-2. In my Yahoo league I'm averaging 137 pts a game. I lost 141-130 this week. Of course 141 is the 3rd highest point total of the year, right behind the 167 I scored last week and the 155 that beat me in week 1.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
That happened last year with Chris Cooley (TE/RB), when they were actually throwing to him. Good thing I had him
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Originally Posted by Dub guy
I have used many draft methods...and have won quite a few fantasy football leagues. QB always yeild high numbers so I always draft a good QB first and then go with RBs. If you can get a standout WR its not a bad choice.
To say Randy Moss or T.O are bad picks is stupid......they are great WR that when playing on the money have great fantasy value. The picking running back strategy is widely used.....but i think it can be over rated too. there are many players at many position that can bring great fantasy value. One great player wont get you a win ....it the sum of all your players that will yeild wins. if you draft crappy at rounds 5-9....you can be dead in the water even if you had Larry Johnson and Peyton Manning playing in top form. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
On a whim I just picked up Michael Robinson. He looks pretty good and if Frank Gore fumbles a few more times I've got myself a cheap premier running back!
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Originally Posted by the nut
I picked him up as well, Gore's got a strained abdominal muscle. On Yahoo there listing Michael Robinson as WR/RB... if plays, he be huge points for a wideout!
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Really! I'm on it!!
I got him in my CBS league. |
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
What's funny is in my league, Robinson was bid on for 30 bucks the first night we could bid on free agents. The guys don't mess around, everyone knows whats going on at all times.
Just to let you guys know, Robinson aint gonna do shit. Gore is gonna be the starter. He may miss a few goal line carries but oh well, Gore has been breaking 25 yard runs for TD's. He'll be ok to miss a few carries. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Too bad Gore is 1/2 the reciever out of the backfield that Robinson is. They will be at least 50/50 in the next comming weeks.
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Originally Posted by the nut
Somebody tell me how I can have a 1 point lead going into Monday night with Dunn and Crumpler going against Colston for the other guy's team, and I end up with a tie! And yahoo is screwing me, they have Colston listed as TE/WR he is huge points for a TE.
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
You are crazy. Gore looks great as a receiver out of the backfield. As long as Gore stays healthy he will remain the starter and get 90% of the carries. The only reason they are making any sort of issue about this is because of the fumbles, which is also something that is very easy to correct. You will see, all these people that picked up Robinson are going to be very dissapointed. Just like all the people who were very high on Duckett because supposedly he was going to get all these goal line and short yardage plays. Give it 2 weeks and Robinson will be dropped again. Unless Gore gets seriously hurt and misses time, Robinson will be a non factor.
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Originally Posted by the nut
My instructor won't teach just one art. He mixes BJJ, Muay Thai, and boxing each class.
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Originally Posted by bigss75
You must of forgot John Elway and what he did to get out of going to the browns.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
I'll remember that in week 5 when I'm looking for a WR to start.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Gore already fumbled, won't be long now!
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
I love how I bench Brian Westbrook last week (he was questionable) and he has the game of his life. Now this week I'm down 3 points and start him (again questionable) and they announce he's out an hour before the game. Ahhhh gotta love that.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Dude, the same thing happend to me last night. I was down by 24 and had Westbrook, Akers, and Philly D to go. Needless to say I still won by 4 but I ALMOST HAD A FUCKING HEART ATTACK!!!
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Yeah, I was playing a guy who had Reggie Brown, L.J Smith and the Eagles D. Where the hell did Greg Lewis come from?
I think its time to trade Culpepper. I have Eli and Grossman so I covered on QB's. |
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I need a TE, Alge is on a bye. Who should I pick up?
Scaife, Bo TE TEN @IND 7 5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 10 158 15.8 1 1 30.8 Wrighster, George TE JAC NYJ 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 15 128 8.5 0 0 27.8 Baker, Chris TE NYJ @JAC 9 5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 9 60 6.7 2 0 27.0 Wiggins, Jermaine TE MIN DET 6 7 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 14 121 8.6 0 0 26.1 Wilcox, Daniel TE BAL @DEN 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 7 79 11.3 2 1 24.9 Graham, Daniel TE NE MIA 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 8 105 13.1 1 0 24.5 Daniels, Owen TE HOU BYE 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 47 9.4 2 0 23.7 Troupe, Ben TE TEN @IND 7 8 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 103 17.2 1 0 22.3 Fletcher, Bryan TE IND TEN 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 34 6.8 2 0 20.4 Campbell, Dan TE DET @MIN 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 108 18.0 0 0 16.8 Klopfenstein, Joe TE STL @GB 7 5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 4 57 14.2 1 0 15.7 Smith, Alex TE TB @NO 4 6 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 90 15.0 0 0 15.0 Gilmore, John TE CHI BUF 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 2 8 4.0 2 0 14.8 Bruener, Mark TE HOU BYE 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 2 3 1.5 2 0 14.3 Martin, David TE GB STL 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 8 52 6.5 0 0 13.2 Bergen, Adam TE ARI KC 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 39 7.8 1 1 12.9 Utecht, Ben TE IND TEN 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 63 10.5 0 0 12.3 Heller, Will TE SEA BYE 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 3 28 9.3 1 0 11.8 Schobel, Matt TE PHI DAL 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 3 82 27.3 0 0 11.2 Alexander, Stephen TE DEN BAL 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 56 11.2 0 0 10.6 Heiden, Steve TE CLE @CAR 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 44 7.3 0 0 10.4 Becht, Anthony TE TB @NO 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 6 37 6.2 0 0 9.7 Pollard, Marcus TE DET @MIN 8 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 42 8.4 0 0 9.2 Royal, Robert TE BUF @CHI 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 4 50 12.5 0 0 9.0 Mili, Itula TE SEA BYE 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 39 7.8 0 0 8.9 Conwell, Ernie TE NO TB 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 5 37 7.4 0 0 8.7 Owens, Richard TE MIN DET 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 1 16 16.0 1 0 8.6 Anderson, Courtney TE OAK @SF 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 4 43 10.8 0 0 8.3 Putzier, Jeb TE HOU BYE 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 3 48 16.0 0 0 7.8 Lee, Donald TE GB STL 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 2 57 28.5 0 0 7. |
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
Yeah, I was playing a guy who had Reggie Brown, L.J Smith and the Eagles D. Where the hell did Greg Lewis come from?
I think its time to trade Culpepper. I have Eli and Grossman so I covered on QB's. |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Dude, the same thing happend to me last night. I was down by 24 and had Westbrook, Akers, and Philly D to go. Needless to say I still won by 4 but I ALMOST HAD A FUCKING HEART ATTACK!!!
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