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Who's the greatest HR hitter of all-time?


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Posted by: SuperFlex

I'll give you a hint, they named a candy bar after him...


Posted by: TJ Cline

Babe Ruth by far


Posted by: Malley

The Babe. And he swung a 51 ounce stick. Imagine that!!!! Heard that fact on ESPN the other night.


Posted by: IainDaniel

Really hard to compare different era's. Today's MLB I would think would have better athlete's as they actually make a significant livelyhood from it. Saying that A-rod is pretty impressive. When Griffey jr. was heathly he was amazing.

No disrepect to Babe or Hank they were great hitters in there time, I just think the skill level is that much better now a days.


Posted by: Malley

Ian you are right, but balls are much livlier now also. Along with athletes being more informed on how to train. Imagine if the Babe actually trained, he'd be a monster. He mightve hit over 1,000 homer in his career, but the world will never know!


Posted by: TJ Cline

Babe Ruth was the first player to hit over 30, 40 and 50 home runs in one season. His record of 60 home runs in the 1927 season stood for 34 years ( as far as in the same amount of games it might still stand?) .


And he did all this without weight training, steroids, GH and physial therapy . The Babe is the King!!!


Posted by: IainDaniel

And he did this against athletes who didn't train.


Posted by: TJ Cline

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And he did this against athletes who didn't train.
Yes he stood miles above his peers, and he was fatter and drunker than any of them. You have to compare the man to his generation and not one man of any generation even comes close to the Babe. He is a living God for all of time , show some respect son.


Posted by: Malley

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Posted by: IainDaniel

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Yes he stood miles above his peers, and he was fatter and drunker than any of them. You have to compare the man to his generation and not one man of any generation even comes close to the Babe. He is a living God for all of time , show some respect son.

Maybe reading comprehension isn't your forte. Reread my orginal post. I am an avid ball fan and have played my whole life. Great Babe Ruth was a god during his time. Whoopety fucking doo.

Like I said originally it is practically impossible to compare era's.


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Posted by: TJ Cline

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Posted by: lnvanry

bonds....juice it up big guy


Posted by: Malley

Bonds was the best for about 3 years. But then the good ole roids took a toll on that body. Just think if we put a piece of lumber in the Babes hand that didnt weigh a ton.


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Ian you are right, but balls are much livlier now also. Along with athletes being more informed on how to train. Imagine if the Babe actually trained, he'd be a monster. He mightve hit over 1,000 homer in his career, but the world will never know!
He probably would have had over 1,000 anyway if he'd batted full time his entire career. About 7 years he had very minimal AB's... An additional 41 per year would have put him over the 1,000 mark


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
Babe Ruth was the first player to hit over 30, 40 and 50 home runs in one season. His record of 60 home runs in the 1927 season stood for 34 years ( as far as in the same amount of games it might still stand?) .


And he did all this without weight training, steroids, GH and physial therapy . The Babe is the King!!!
Yeah man, he hit more HR's in a year then some entire teams!!!


Posted by: SuperFlex

1) Babe Ruth
2) Mark McGwire
3) Sammy Sosa
4) Barry Bonds(on steroids or number 2,481)
5) Lou Gehrig
6) Cecil Fielder
7) Albert Pujols
8) Alex Rodrigez
9) Jim Thome
10) Ken Griffey Jr.

Big Mac has the greatest raw power of alltime... Dude hit balls that still haven't landed.


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Posted by: LoadedBats

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
Babe Ruth was the first player to hit over 30, 40 and 50 home runs in one season. His record of 60 home runs in the 1927 season stood for 34 years ( as far as in the same amount of games it might still stand?) .


And he did all this without weight training, steroids, GH and physial therapy . The Babe is the King!!!
Agree 100% - The Babe achieved this feat on Hotdogs and Beer. Bonds needed the "clear" and the "cream". ya know.....flaxseed oil.


Posted by: I Are Baboon

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...I just think the skill level is that much better now a days.
I agree, but I also think you have to look at how the player did in his era in relation to everyone else around him. Babe Ruth was so far ahead of his time it was rediculous and he revolutionized the game. Before him, baseball was a base-to-base, small ball game with slap hitting being the emphasis. Hitters are bigger and stronger now, but so are the pitchers.


Posted by: IainDaniel

Making being a homerun hitter now that much harder.


Posted by: boilermaker

I'd say right now that the Babe is the greatest. Remember, he also started his career as a pitcher.

You should have Albert Pujols on that list. He's not the greatest yet, but he is going to be, barring a major injury, the best hitter of all time. And he is clean.


Posted by: IainDaniel

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I'd say right now that the Babe is the greatest. Remember, he also started his career as a pitcher.

You should have Albert Pujols on that list. He's not the greatest yet, but he is going to be, barring a major injury, the best hitter of all time. And he is clean.
I have no faith that any professional athlete is clean. This is a business, they are trying to make themselves more valuable... just like the business world, by any means necesarry.


Posted by: boilermaker

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I have no faith that any professional athlete is clean. This is a business, they are trying to make themselves more valuable... just like the business world, by any means necesarry.
I think that is right for the most part. Pujols broke into the league at age 19, I think. He is going to look the same on his rookie card as he does the year he retires. You can't say that about Bonds, Mcgwire or Sosa. They all juiced for sure in my opinion. Some even corked.


Posted by: IainDaniel

Look up 1923 and why corked bats or altered bats were made illegal.

No doubt Babe was a great hitter that revolutionized the game. But finding ways to succeed in the game(circumvent the rules) have been around since the beginning.


Posted by: largepkg

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I think that is right for the most part. Pujols broke into the league at age 19, I think. He is going to look the same on his rookie card as he does the year he retires. You can't say that about Bonds, Mcgwire or Sosa. They all juiced for sure in my opinion. Some even corked.

Don't be naive. Pujols was not 225+lbs at 19. Those were the latest weight stats I could find. If he's only 225lbs now I the queen of fucking England!


Posted by: boilermaker

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Don't be naive. Pujols was not 225+lbs at 19. Those were the latest weight stats I could find. If he's only 225lbs now I the queen of fucking England!
I'm not naive. I lived in St. Louis from 2000 to to 2004. I saw him play a lot of games. He was a big kid when he got there and he is a big kid now. So what if he put on 15 pounds. I did that this year. Look at Barry Bonds Rookie and Barry Bonds now. It's not even the same guy.


Posted by: largepkg

Obviously there's no comparison to Barry. And, I have no clue if Albert is ON or not. The cynic in me tells me the majority of these big guys are ON though.


Posted by: SuperFlex

The equipment they have now adds 30ft. guaranteed... Anyone who has played ball knows the difference good equipment makes. They train like animals now and live the sport. It's now a job... Also was, but now it's cut throat. Athletes are certainly more talented overall, but that doesn't mean some of the oldtimers didn't have equal or even better talent. The fields are tiny now compared to back in the day! That right there makes and HUGE difference in HR totals. Babe Ruth, with todays equipment, training, "medicines", and ball diamonds would be unbelievable... Do I believe he'd hit more HR's than entire teams today? No, but 73 wouldn't be safe in any year...


Posted by: IainDaniel

That is impossible to say. He would have never faced pitching like todays pitchers back in the day.


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Obviously there's no comparison to Barry. And, I have no clue if Albert is ON or not. The cynic in me tells me the majority of these big guys are ON though.
I doubt he is taken steroids... Not to say I'm a great HR hitter at the pro level like Pujols, but I guarantee you if I was in the show, people would say I'm juicin bigtime. Some people are just built stacked... 5 years of weight training could certainly have gotten him where he is. I know in five years time I would be a lot bigger than Albert is now. Shit, in 2 years tops...


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
I'd say right now that the Babe is the greatest. Remember, he also started his career as a pitcher.

You should have Albert Pujols on that list. He's not the greatest yet, but he is going to be, barring a major injury, the best hitter of all time. And he is clean.
If the other option wasn't up he'd be there. Right now, he doesn't crack that list...


Posted by: min0 lee

The pitching today is not as good as it was in the 60's or the 70's.
Right now they will take any bum who can throw left handed.

I have to say the Babe.
The ball was deader, the parks were bigger, it was OK to bean a hitter.....


Posted by: boilermaker

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If the other option wasn't up he'd be there. Right now, he doesn't crack that list...
Just for comparison. If the season ended today, he'd be averaging 41 homers per year. That's six years, including his rookie year. He's also a career .331 hitter. Bonds never hit over 40 hr in one year until his 8th year.

Pujols will break the all time HR record IF he stays healthy and chooses to play long enough. Ken Griffey Jr. would have gotten there had he not been injured for so many years in Cinci. I'm sure he's shaking his head right now.


Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex View Post
I doubt he is taken steroids... Not to say I'm a great HR hitter at the pro level like Pujols, but I guarantee you if I was in the show, people would say I'm juicin bigtime. Some people are just built stacked... 5 years of weight training could certainly have gotten him where he is. I know in five years time I would be a lot bigger than Albert is now. Shit, in 2 years tops...

It's not always about pure size. You need to remember these guys are always on the road. Training like a "normal" person is not easy. I believe a lot of these guys take "supps" to help recover not necessarily build muscle. I still believe the majority of these guys as well as NFL boys are using HGH. Considering there's no test for it.


Posted by: boilermaker

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
It's not always about pure size. You need to remember these guys are always on the road. Training like a "normal" person is not easy. I believe a lot of these guys take "supps" to help recover not necessarily build muscle. I still believe the majority of these guys as well as NFL boys are using HGH. Considering there's no test for it.
No news about anyone would really suprise me anymore.


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
Just for comparison. If the season ended today, he'd be averaging 41 homers per year. That's six years, including his rookie year. He's also a career .331 hitter. Bonds never hit over 40 hr in one year until his 8th year.

Pujols will break the all time HR record IF he stays healthy and chooses to play long enough. Ken Griffey Jr. would have gotten there had he not been injured for so many years in Cinci. I'm sure he's shaking his head right now.
I'm with you dude... He just needs to keep getting it done. It's too early imo.


Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
It's not always about pure size. You need to remember these guys are always on the road. Training like a "normal" person is not easy. I believe a lot of these guys take "supps" to help recover not necessarily build muscle. I still believe the majority of these guys as well as NFL boys are using HGH. Considering there's no test for it.
Who knows bro, maybe you're right.



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