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Posted by: assassin

what do you think is the best one ... wich one is the most effective game or sport ... discuss ...I am currently learning kick boxing, and i would like to have more knowledge about other martial arts....

Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by assassin

what do you think is the best one ... wich one is the most effective game or sport ... discuss ...I am currently learning kick boxing, and i would like to have more knowledge about other martial arts....

There is no "best one." It all depends on what is practical for you. List your goals first. There is no way to possibly say "this is the best."

Posted by: Doublebase

kickboxing + BJJ = well rounded fighter

Posted by: fufu

For street encounters and everyday protection, BJJ is a valuable thing in my opinion. Next would be some boxing skills(mostly defense). However, I don't really see what you are getting at.

Posted by: TJ Cline

BJJ and Thai boxing

Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

BJJ and Tie boxing

Thai?

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by fufu

Thai?

yes, I never remember how to spell it

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

BJJ and Thai boxing

that is a great combo also. American or Thai. They are both good. Thai uses more elbows and knees. A lot of bone conditioning.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by fufu

For street encounters and everyday protection, BJJ is a valuable thing in my opinion. Next would be some boxing skills(mostly defense). However, I don't really see what you are getting at.

yeah that's one of my goals ... i don't have fights lol but i just wanna feel confident

also i wat to get high flexibility

Posted by: assassin

so where could i get links to info , books or videos to those ??? thai boxing bjj and kick boxing??

Posted by: Mista

Vale Tudo - In Portuguese, Vale Tudo means 'anything goes'. It is a complete & ultimate fighting style which has taken the world by storm (UFC, Pride, Shooto, King Of The Cage). Combining the fighting styles of Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Boxing, Wrestling and breaking situations down into realistic drills, making one an EXTREME fighter.

Im starting this soon.

Posted by: Bakerboy

sumo http://www.banzuke.com/~movies/natsu2005/010505mov.html

Posted by: fUnc17

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Originally Posted by Mista

Vale Tudo - In Portuguese, Vale Tudo means 'anything goes'. It is a complete & ultimate fighting style which has taken the world by storm (UFC, Pride, Shooto, King Of The Cage). Combining the fighting styles of Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Boxing, Wrestling and breaking situations down into realistic drills, making one an EXTREME fighter.

Im starting this soon.

vale tudo is bare knuckles fighting, no rules.

most pride/ufc fighters were involved in vale tudo b4 making it big

Posted by: 911=InsideJob

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Originally Posted by fufu

For street encounters and everyday protection, BJJ is a valuable thing in my opinion. Next would be some boxing skills(mostly defense). However, I don't really see what you are getting at.

BJJ works in a street fight but it would look really gay. Like if the guy is trying to knock your head of and then you take him down and put him in an arm bar.

Posted by: 911=InsideJob

For street fighting I'd say take Muay Thai because it has the same things as kickboxing plus you'll be using elbows and knees on the guys face and he wouldn't know how to defend that.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

For street fighting I'd say take Muay Thai because it has the same things as kickboxing plus you'll be using elbows and knees on the guys face and he wouldn't know how to defend that.

muay thai is cool

...http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/64..._Muay_Thai_mpg

Posted by: fUnc17

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Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

BJJ works in a street fight but it would look really gay. Like if the guy is trying to knock your head of and then you take him down and put him in an arm bar.

the guy your arm barring, triangling, or choking out won't think it's gay.

Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by fUnc17

the guy your arm barring, triangling, or choking out won't think it's gay.

True Story, BJJ owns every other martial art.

Posted by: fUnc17

defensively - yes

offensively - no

Posted by: IainDaniel

The best offense is a good defense

Posted by: assassin

kung fu owns

Posted by: bio-chem

i agree. a street fight is not about looking good. its about winning while taking as little damage as possible. for stand up boxing will be most effective. (most fights wont last long enough to throw knees and elbows, though they are effective to know) and some sort of submission style for the ground. (any will be effective against an untrained fighter, and chances are real high he will be untrained. judo, bjj, wrestling would all be effective against a normal guy)

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

The best offense is a good defense

Not true all the time esp in a 30 sec street fight.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not true all the time esp in a 30 sec street fight.

for once i agree with you foreman. in a 30 sec street fight, a strong offense will ensure a defense is not needed

Posted by: Bakerboy

Posted by: SuperFlex

Jeet kune do and thai are very impressive to me. Kickboxing is awesome as well! It's very exciting... I agree on the statement that there is no one single martial art which is best.

Bruce Lee once said, "My style is no style, my way is no way...", or something to that effect. He meant in both martial arts and life. Imo he wasn't saying do as you please, but rather to follow after truth, and what's best... If you realize you are in the wrong, then change. If you see a better way, then take it... Don't set yourself in concrete and become closed minded. Rather continue to learn and perfect your life with each new lesson.

Posted by: durk

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

True Story, BJJ owns every other martial art.

umm maybe in the ring but if hes looking for street fighting its useless try choking a guy out on the ground and five of his buddies will be stomping your head.
boxing, kickboxing and wrestling in order to keep things standing is best for the streets.

Posted by: durk

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Jeet kune do and thai are very impressive to me. Kickboxing is awesome as well! It's very exciting... I agree on the statement that there is no one single martial art which is best.

Bruce Lee once said, "My style is no style, my way is no way...", or something to that effect. He meant in both martial arts and life. Imo he wasn't saying do as you please, but rather to follow after truth, and what's best... If you realize you are in the wrong, then change. If you see a better way, then take it... Don't set yourself in concrete and become closed minded. Rather continue to learn and perfect your life with each new lesson.

Bruce lee was nothing but a bunch of movie hype that little fcker would get destroyed by a western kickboxer/boxer style.

Posted by: CRASHMAN

Boxing with knowledge of kicks and a ground game. Striking is harder than the ground to learn and better on the street when confounding variables like people kicking you in the head while wrestling. In the ring, ground game by far is more practicle and better.

Posted by: 911=InsideJob

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Originally Posted by fUnc17

the guy your arm barring, triangling, or choking out won't think it's gay.

Yeah but your gonna pretty much have to break it. Other wise when you let go he's gonna stand up and perfectly fine.

Posted by: fUnc17

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Originally Posted by durk

if you get jumped by 6 guys, you run. no hero shit, you WILL lose

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Originally Posted by 911=InsideJob

Yeah but your gonna pretty much have to break it. Other wise when you let go he's gonna stand up and perfectly fine.

wrong, you hold him there and call the police. if he tries to move you crank on his arm and make him cry until the cops arrive.

it is very rare you will be able to do this, most fights are never 1 on 1. some idiot will always jump in, thats why its good to know standup. you can't fight 2 people from the ground.

Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by durk

Untrue. If there is 5 guys there is too many variables. But BJJ advocates striking, essentially boxing is built into it, as is takedown defense, and wrestling.

Posted by: CRASHMAN

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Untrue. If there is 5 guys there is too many variables. But BJJ advocates striking, essentially boxing is built into it, as is takedown defense, and wrestling.

Thats racist.

Posted by: durk

do any of you guys streetfight? do you understand what its like to streetfight today? I havent had a guy fight me one on one in two years.

There is no honour anymore no one is going to pick a fight with you one on they are going to get you when you are vulnerable.
Ever notice fights usually start one on one then when someone goes down a friend or two come in and kick him when they are down? why because people are cowards they never want to risk getting punched but once a guy is on the ground its soccer season.

here is an example of my latest street fight actually bar room last month.
I get jumped by a gang of wanksters guy punches me I thia clinch him and tell him I dont want to fight just settle down. He goes for a double leg and I emediately put him in a guilotine choke.
Then 5 of his friends get up from a table soround me and start booting me I manage somehow to get up and KO two of them so I can get away.
On my way out someone bottled the back of my head and I fell and chipped two teeth but I got away and If I didnt have the skill too box my way through them then honestly I would have no idea how long they would play soccer with my head or if I would even be alive?

Posted by: the nut

My instructor won't teach just one art. He mixes BJJ, Muay Thai, and boxing each class.

Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by durk

do any of you guys streetfight? do you understand what its like to streetfight today? I havent had a guy fight me one on one in two years.

There is no honour anymore no one is going to pick a fight with you one on they are going to get you when you are vulnerable.
Ever notice fights usually start one on one then when someone goes down a friend or two come in and kick him when they are down? why because people are cowards they never want to risk getting punched but once a guy is on the ground its soccer season.

here is an example of my latest street fight actually bar room last month.
I get jumped by a gang of wanksters guy punches me I thia clinch him and tell him I dont want to fight just settle down. He goes for a double leg and I emediately put him in a guilotine choke.
Then 5 of his friends get up from a table soround me and start booting me I manage somehow to get up and KO two of them so I can get away.
On my way out someone bottled the back of my head and I fell and chipped two teeth but I got away and If I didnt have the skill too box my way through them then honestly I would have no idea how long they would play soccer with my head or if I would even be alive?

You run, son, that's all there is to it, unless your Fedor, and in that case you're safe from a crowd of people going after you. And this story sound fake.

Posted by: durk

believe what you want but I have street fought for many years you think its fake then whatever I guess the two crowns I got from getting my teeth knocked out are fake as well.
If you read it I did run but I was surounded I had to get out of their as fast as I can the bottle that hit me came when I was getting away.

I just love it when martial artist who never been in a real streetfight give tips on how it happens try running away when your sorounded yep that works.

Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by durk

believe what you want but I have street fought for many years you think its fake then whatever I guess the two crowns I got from getting my teeth knocked out are fake as well.
If you read it I did run but I was surounded I had to get out of their as fast as I can the bottle that hit me came when I was getting away.

I just love it when martial artist who never been in a real streetfight give tips on how it happens try running away when your sorounded yep that works.

Trust me son, your boxing skills wouldn't matter against a grappler.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by durk

do any of you guys streetfight? do you understand what its like to streetfight today? I havent had a guy fight me one on one in two years.

There is no honour anymore no one is going to pick a fight with you one on they are going to get you when you are vulnerable.
Ever notice fights usually start one on one then when someone goes down a friend or two come in and kick him when they are down? why because people are cowards they never want to risk getting punched but once a guy is on the ground its soccer season.

here is an example of my latest street fight actually bar room last month.
I get jumped by a gang of wanksters guy punches me I thia clinch him and tell him I dont want to fight just settle down. He goes for a double leg and I emediately put him in a guilotine choke.
Then 5 of his friends get up from a table soround me and start booting me I manage somehow to get up and KO two of them so I can get away.
On my way out someone bottled the back of my head and I fell and chipped two teeth but I got away and If I didnt have the skill too box my way through them then honestly I would have no idea how long they would play soccer with my head or if I would even be alive?

Yes I remember the good old days when street fighting was all about honor

Posted by: durk

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Trust me son, your boxing skills wouldn't matter against a grappler.

but it does against a bunch of punks off the street most people cant throw a good punch or do a proper takedown thats why they jump people because they are a bunch of pussys that cant fight their way out of a paper bag.

I also never said grappling is unimportant in a street fight on the contrary its essential to have a great takedown defence so this shit doesnt happen.

I am also going to start MMA next week and I totally agree that in MMA you gota be efficient on the ground or your screwed so I am really going to be focusing on my ground game and am gona be real anxious to touch up my wrestling and learn some jui jitsu.

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