Originally Posted by boilermaker

You should count loading the leg press machine as some kind of movement! Freakish numbers, Archman

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Jesus 810 is alot of 45s!

Originally Posted by WantItBad

you stole my words brute.....archie mad skills son

Originally Posted by Pylon

Originally Posted by Double D

Yeah those longer ri's are on the way whenever we head to powerlifting huh Archie!!!

Originally Posted by Andalite

ALWAYS dude.

Originally Posted by boilermaker

You should count loading the leg press machine as some kind of movement! Freakish numbers, Archman

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Im a bodybuilder who powerlifts ,same with D.

Originally Posted by Double D

Archie its good to incoporate both. Go a few months pl'ing and then go back to some hit. Its simple.

Originally Posted by Archangel

On a side note........................
My heart is quickly losing the battle here w/ bodybuilding and powerlifting!!!

My heart is just not into the BBing thing, not sure why, but I'm really wanting to jump into PLing NOW!!!

I would feel like I quit though, and that I let you ALL down, especially you Brother Pylon in that you where planning on being there, not sure just yet though, I might try to stick it out!!!
Just don't wanna feel like I let anyone down!!!

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Wait im confused.

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Don't worry about us Arch. Do what YOU want to do! I am positive everyone here will support you, no matter what you choose.

You have given BB'ing a good shot, and have been very successful. I think you may do even better with PL'ing. Less diet worries would be cool, but at the same time chances of injury are greater. Only you can decide....

Originally Posted by Pylon

Dude, you're worried about me? Get over it. If you wanna PL, go do it. I've never been to a PL meet!

Originally Posted by Archangel

I'm going to a Benching PLing meet so see how they are ran in a couple of weeks!!!

Originally Posted by Archangel

Called it after that, might not look like much, but I could barely keep from

Originally Posted by Pylon

Where is it? If I'm free that day, maybe I'll come over as well.

Originally Posted by Double D

The powerlifting diet is the same as a bodybuilding diet. You either wanna gain, lose, or maintain and eat for that. Dont change your diet just your routine.

Originally Posted by Andalite

christ......u RP'ed leg presses.....enough said damnit!

Originally Posted by Double D

The powerlifting diet is the same as a bodybuilding diet. You either wanna gain, lose, or maintain and eat for that. Dont change your diet just your routine.

Originally Posted by Double D

Which is like I said, they are at their maintenece level. Most powerlifters try to stay around that because if they ever have to cut weight its very tough to cut weight and keep strength. I do believe pl'ing requires more calories. And I do believe powerlifting boosts your metabolism much more than a bodybuilding routine. Simply because it puts so much more stress on the cns. So while you see alot of food, they see their maitenence level.

Originally Posted by Double D

Pretty ridiculous. I wonder if theres any need for that?!?!

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Im a firm believer in high cals for strength and mass training. If you time things properly, you can eat 7000 cals in a day, and keep fat gain to a minimal if you do things properly

(cut off carbs after 7, 1.5 grams of protein per lb, HIIT cardio on off days, or at least moderately intense cardio, etc)

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Well of course metabolisms adjust accordingly, but the rules still apply. To gain mass you need to eat a higher number of calories, and the fastest way to acheive that is eating as if you were the size of the person you wanted to become.

Originally Posted by Double D

I definitly feel this varies big time between actual powerlifting athletes and the everyday pl'ing joe. You can put up some big numbers without gaining weight.

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

I know Dave Tate was eating 10000 calories before he stoped powerlifitng.

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

I never liked the mental drain of Hit, i think you'll end up liking not going to failure much better.

Originally Posted by WantItBad

I think you can lift like a powerlifter and still bodybuild at the same time.....

Originally Posted by Pylon

Heya Archie. just checking in to see how things are in your casa. Everyone warm and safe?

Originally Posted by Archangel

It is mentally draining, thats for sure!!! But I will prolly still encorporate HIT/Heavy Duty principles in my PLing routine!!!

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Can't wait to see the routine Arch!

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Then that's not really powerlifting unless you just mean on the 14 +rep sets and on the 1rms.

Originally Posted by b_reed23

I'm looking forward to it...your lifts are always insane Arch

Originally Posted by Double D

Whats up Arch? Hope all is well.

Originally Posted by Double D

Nice very interesting there Archie. So you goin to compete tommorow?

Originally Posted by Bakerboy

Looks tough! Good luck!

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

Heya arch looks like a pretty kewl routine. I'll be following every step of the way!

I can't wait to get back to normal training...this lighter weight endurance stuff is bothering me. This week of lifting just a bit heavier has me itchin for some serious heavy stuff...I've got the bug but can't do it yet!

Originally Posted by Rocco32

Heya Arch! How's everything. Have you decided on the BB'ing VS Powerlifting thing yet?

Originally Posted by Rocco32

Awesome...good luck buddy!!! Let me just throw in my little nugget of wisdom if you don't mind. To really get your lifts up with powerlifting, you really need to focus on speed, hams, hips, lower back, delts, tri's and lats. I'd incorporate more exercises to cater to those bodyparts and really blast them.

Originally Posted by Pylon

Heya Archie...going all in with PL! Rock on!

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Like the twist Arch. To be honest, I wonder if the r/p sets might be a little much for a PL routine. Doing 5 x 5's, 3 x 3's, and 2 x 2's are already hard on the connective tissue and CNS, but if anyone can do it, it's you!

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

If i can make one suggestion archie how about you only rest pause on 1 exercise per workout and the rest stop 1-2 reps shy of failure.

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Hey Arch, you're going to start PLing huh? Nice. You just did a bodybuilding show recently didn't you, or is that still coming up?

Originally Posted by Double D

Archie you can do anything you put your heart into. I have all the faith in the world in you.

Originally Posted by Archangel

Here it is!!!

My twist on the 5x5 routine

Mon.
Squat 5x5
Leg Press - Rest/Pause
SLDL's - Rest/Pause
Calve work - Rest/Pause

Wed.
Flat BB Bench Press 5x5
Incline DB Press alternated w/ Seated Overhead Presses - Rest/Pause
CG BB Bench - Rest/Pause
Pushdowns - Rest/Pause

Fri.
Deadlifts 5x5
Dorian Rows alternated w/ Seated Rows - Rest/Pause
Hyperextensions - Rest/Pause ss w/ Ab work - Rest/Pause
BB Curls - Rest/Pause

There it is, the 5x5 with a twist of Angel!!!

Will be starting a new journal since this is a totally different path than I am used to, Wish me luck or laugh at me, its all good!!!

Also on a side note:
Will be doing this for 4 weeks, and then doing Heavy Duty for 4 weeks, conducting an experiment on progression here!!!

Originally Posted by Andalite

hey whats going on? how come no updates bro? i hope eveyrhting is alright man.