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Posted by: kenwood

how much fat is ok to eat aday? i mean healthy fats...my weight is 180-185 and i was just wondering because i want to upp my cals and right now i get around 80g. of fats. and i wanted to maybe up it to have more cals. my carbs are up and if i up my protein i'd be in the 300's and if i up my carbs i'd be close to 400's. fat isnt bad it is? i read in some ppls journal they eat around 120-130g of fats.

Posted by: Double D

I would think at 180 lbs. you wouldnt need 300 grams of protein. I dont really see where fats would hurt you to much just as long as they are good fats. That is if you are on a bulk.

Posted by: kenwood

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Originally Posted by Double D

I would think at 180 lbs. you wouldnt need 300 grams of protein. I dont really see where fats would hurt you to much just as long as they are good fats. That is if you are on a bulk.

i don't eat 300grams of protein. i said if i raised my protein intake i'd be eating that much. i'm eating 260-280g. aday of Protein.

btw, thanks for the reply

i'll up my fats some.

Posted by: assassin

i was going to say the same thing .... 300 grams of protein wll make you fat..200 is enough

Posted by: assassin

and no more than 1-2 shakes per day ..stop stuffing your self with supplements..

Posted by: kenwood

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Originally Posted by assassin

i was going to say the same thing .... 300 grams of protein wll make you fat..200 is enough

yeah lol

Posted by: assassin

200-250 maximum

Posted by: Double D

Well the protein wont make ya fat, but all the calories that come with it will. That is if you are not burning the amount of calories you consumed you will. And I am thinking to get 300 grams of protein its going to take a ton of calories to do so.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by Double D

Well the protein wont make ya fat, but all the calories that come with it will. That is if you are not burning the amount of calories you consumed you will. And I am thinking to get 300 grams of protein its going to take a ton of calories to do so.

It will make him fatter ...because his body will use a certain amount and the rest will be stored as fats ...

Posted by: Double D

Body does not store proteins as fat. If so everything I have ever seen is a lie.

Posted by: NeilPearson

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Originally Posted by Double D

Body does not store proteins as fat. If so everything I have ever seen is a lie.

The body can store any excess calories as fat... even if they come from protein

Posted by: Double D

Yes I know this, but I am not saying protein itself is stored as fat, I am saying that the cals that come with the protein maybe stored as fat, but not the protein itself. Getting it? If you take in 300 grams one day and manage to keep it under your caloric maintence you wont gain fat. However if you go over the number of calories your body can take in a day to maintain bodyweight and take in 300 grams of fat you will get fat.

So again I am saying the protein itself doesnt make you fat, its the excess calories.

Posted by: Double D

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Originally Posted by Double D

Well the protein wont make ya fat, but all the calories that come with it will.

Said it earlier.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by Double D

Yes I know this, but I am not saying protein itself is stored as fat, I am saying that the cals that come with the protein maybe stored as fat, but not the protein itself. Getting it? If you take in 300 grams one day and manage to keep it under your caloric maintence you wont gain fat. However if you go over the number of calories your body can take in a day to maintain bodyweight and take in 300 grams of fat you will get fat.

So again I am saying the protein itself doesnt make you fat, its the excess calories.

protein is broken to amino acids then after satisfying your needs the rest is stored as fats .....but if you are already on a calorie deficit then it'll be burned instead of being stored but with less efficiency .. if you are bulking and you eat more protein than you need then the rest will be stored as fats...

Posted by: assassin

http://www.1stholistic.com/Nutrition...urn-to-fat.htm

What happens to the protein:

It is broken down into building blocks known as peptides.

Then, it is further broken down and it becomes amino acids.

The amino acids are absorbed through the small intestine's lining and enter the blood stream.

From here, some of the amino acids build the body's protein stores.

Excess amino acids are converted to fats and sugars and follow the paths described above.

This is such a simple concept, but many people still believe that consuming lots and lots of protein will put muscle on their bones. Don't be fooled by this notion! Even excess protein turns to fat.

Here is a picturesque illustration of the real cause of weight gain. Eating too much food! Dietary fat is obviously the substance most often stored as fat in the ends, but no matter what you eat, your body takes whatever it can't use and sends it to fat cells. If you don't burn it off or expel it, it hangs around in your fat cells, no matter what it consists of.

Posted by: Double D

Well thanks for the input. Also thanks a whole hell of alot for making me not want to eat pizza again, you basturd!

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by Double D

Well thanks for the input. Also thanks a whole hell of alot for making me not want to eat pizza again, you basturd!

your welcome ....well i love pizza too

Posted by: IainDaniel

Assasin Don't make blanket statments about diet, cause everyone is different. At 15 years old I know I could have easily eating 300 g of protein a day and not worry about getting fat. There is no magic number for everyone.

Posted by: Double D

Damn you know even over the years whenever I cut I still take in an enormous amount of lean proteins and I always seemed to shed the fat. I wonder why that is? I still took like 200+ then. all in all I believe that as long as you got everything in place and all you look at is your overall calorie consumption you ought to be fine. I am however glad to find this out. I appreciate the info.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Assasin Don't make blanket statments about diet, cause everyone is different. At 15 years old I know I could have easily eating 300 g of protein a day and not worry about getting fat. There is no magic number for everyone.

yeah ofcourse you are right , i didn't mean to say something general but from his pictures i think he needs to cut and that he is adding fats on this ...

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by Double D

Damn you know even over the years whenever I cut I still take in an enormous amount of lean proteins and I always seemed to shed the fat. I wonder why that is? I still took like 200+ then. all in all I believe that as long as you got everything in place and all you look at is your overall calorie consumption you ought to be fine. I am however glad to find this out. I appreciate the info.

yeah

it's true if you have a fast metabolism you'll burn anything..but someone like me i'm an endo i add weight when i eat excess protein...

Posted by: Double D

See I never gain weight unless I overeat and have excess calories. I however still think that if your maintnence level of calories is 2800 and you are below that or right at it and you take in a tremendous amount of protein, you would be ok and it wouldnt turn to fat. However I am so old school its not funny, so just ignore me.

Posted by: assassin

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Originally Posted by Double D

See I never gain weight unless I overeat and have excess calories. I however still think that if your maintnence level of calories is 2800 and you are below that or right at it and you take in a tremendous amount of protein, you would be ok and it wouldnt turn to fat. However I am so old school its not funny, so just ignore me.

it's true it'll be used as fuel nstead of carbs and fats

and that's the point you will have no enough energy to work and you'll have defficency of fiber/vitamins that exists in carbs and grains , efa's ..and that may cause your metabolism to slow down ..

Posted by: Double D

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Originally Posted by Double D

However I am so old school its not funny, so just ignore me.

Posted by: assassin

Posted by: JimSnow

The body utilizes what it needs... the rest is converted to food stores, or excremented.

Does anybody need to start shooting run-on sentences and fragmented diet conceptions?

BTW - I like the Avatar Ken!

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