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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
no he is a smart business man.
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
no he is a smart business man.
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Originally Posted by aceshigh
well if he paid more to the fighter , they would get better fighters in the ufc ,,thus more interest , thus more money
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
Bottom line is he is making bucks, there is a cost/ benefit analysis. He pulled in well over 4 million the past PPV and paid out 400k. Unlike many of the events Boxing Baseball where the employees (athletes) are making over 50% of the revenue.
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
no he is a smart business man.
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
There is a difference between fraud, and paying your employees what they are worth.
He took the risk with his investors and bought the UFC, they worked with the gaming commisions to get it televised again. I think he deserves alot of credit for what he has done. Most of these fighters in the UFC would be getting a heck of alot less elsewhere. |
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
What are Prides revenues per event?
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Originally Posted by largepkg
You obviously don't have a business degree.
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Originally Posted by largepkg
Which sport has more momentum?
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Originally Posted by largepkg
If the game is to make people happy then he may be losing. If the game is to make profit for your company and continue to grow said company, he's winning big time!
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Originally Posted by Double D
I thought it was funny as well that Gracie got paid more for losing. Wonder what he wouldve gotten if he wouldve won?
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Originally Posted by Double D
No kidding that is kinda silly. What an expensive SOB.
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Originally Posted by Double D
Well Royce does deserve alot of respect for what he once was. But obviously the sport has gotten alot better and fighters have become much more skilled. And not to mention Royce is pretty damn old.
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
Royce Gracie: $400,000 (lost to Matt Hughes in main event)
whos this guy and why is his money better than everyone elses |
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Originally Posted by bigss75
The total payroll should be at least a million dollars every ppv those prelim fighters are getting their ass kicked for nothing
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Where would ANY of these fighters be fighting if not in the UFC? NOWHERE!!!! Liddel was not moving up the ranks at Pride, and took his losses there before going to UFC. Name any renown fighter ... from the CURRENT rankings ... none are contractually bound to the UFC. You fight in the UFC because you have few other options. As a painter, or a cop ... a $3000 to $24,000 check for 1 night's work and the ensuing nods at the local grocery store is a good deal. Guys like Couture would not have had the fame or longevity in Pride ... he'd have been KO'd and sent back to the minors. Griffin was a beat cop knocking down something in the neighborhood of $30K a year. He makes more than that in 6 months and has his own web-site, a fan base, and a shot at still being in the game a year from now while at the UFC. In Pride? Lol he'd be out there in his blues again reading people their rites and issuing traffic tickets.
The UFC has no need to pay more than they do ... so why do it? Dana White is a shrewd fuckhead but if he were not doing it this way we'd have no UFC to watch ... it woulda died the red-ink death. Now that the UFC is showing a profit expect better fighters to come in and the gates to go up some. Not by much, not in big amounts at one time, and only at the top for the better class of fighters. I believe Dana White to be a true fan of MMA, but he is even more a true fan of money. He is making millions on this business structure arranging fights between un-employed fighters for us to watch. He took a bunch of guys that couldn't have gotten into the UFC without a ticket and put them in the show. Works for me ... I love to see a good beat down. More for me to download Lol ... where would Tito be right now if it weren’t for Dana White? Fucking low class hookers instead of the porn slut he's hooking up with now or in JAIL!!! Hey nut ... great find on these paychecks and thanks for the great thread |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Put those same guys you mentioned on the performance enhancing drugs that I'm sure a majority of the Pride fighters are on and voila!! There's your competition and there's your longevity.
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I wonder about Pride's testing policies. Now we gotta google that one. I need coffee first though ...
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
You really think that? Hmmmm
I wonder about Pride's testing policies. Now we gotta google that one. I need coffee first though ... |
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
Or lack thereof.
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... Dana White is a shrewd fuckhead that took advantage of the testing procedures to save a few bucks.|
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
A no testing policy allows everyone the same playing field. You wanna juice? Go ahead ... juice up. You wanna play all natural? Go for it. Just show up ready to give me what I paid for ... a serious fight.
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Originally Posted by FatCatMC
And I completely agree, but it makes a Pride vs. UFC arguement null and void. Under the assumption that at least a few Pride fighters are on gear, it would be completely unfair to say that a Coture wouldn't last there, or Griffin would be back on the beat. The major difference I see between Pride fighters and UFC fighters is aggression, not overwhelming skill. Of course there are a select few that are a head above the rest, but for the most part the Pride vs. UFC argument boils down to sheer aggression, which could very well be a by-product streoids... We'll never know though will we?
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
The only constant we have in life brother is change ... no telling how this will shake up over the next 18 months but one thing is certain: the UFC is climbing the national recognition ladder. As the events earn more $$$$$ paycheks will increase and better fighters will begin to trickle in. The HW & LHW belts will become more prestigious to hold
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Originally Posted by Double D
How would it feel to be the champ and be getting paid less than the challenger.
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Originally Posted by danny81
how did this happen?
-Royce Gracie: $400,000 (lost to Matt Hughes in main event) -Matt Hughes: $110,000 (defeated Royce Gracie in main event) |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
MMANEWS.COM | UFC 70 "Nations Collide" Fighter Pay Out Info Revealed
-Gabriel Gonzaga ($60,000) def. Mirko CroCop ($350,000) -Andrei Arlovski ($160,000) def. Fabricio Werdum ($80,000) -Michael Bisping ($24,000) def. Elvis Sinosic ($8,000) -"Lyoto" Ryoto Machida ($40,000) def. David Heath ($6,000) -Cheick Kongo ($40,000) def. Assuerio Silva ($8,000) -Terry Etin ($12,000) def. Matt Grice ($3,000) -Junior Assuncao ($6,000) def. David Lee ($2,000) -Alessio Sakara ($20,000) def. Victor Valimaki ($3,000) -Jess Liaudin ($6,000) def. Dennis Siver ($3,000) -Paul Taylor ($8,000) def. Edilberto Crocota ($4,000) Total Payout: $843,000 |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Jeez Cro Cop made almost 6x as much as Gonzaga...crazy. How many more fights does Cro Cop have on his contract?
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Royce Gracie = MMA Royalty with multi franchise name recognition who was here when UFC opened it's doors.
Matt Hughes = Comparatively speaking ... a much less known fighter with shitty walk out song |
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Originally Posted by the nut
Four
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Originally Posted by emitecaps
Can't believe they are still paying fighters $2k or $3k, simply horrible. They should get a minimum of $10k.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
For how much?
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Funny how some preliminary fighters got paid as much as 4x the amount some main card fighters were paid.
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