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UFC 64: Franklin vs. Silva

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Posted by: Goodfella9783

Who's everyone got? Probably Franklin's toughest fight yet. May be a mistake to stand with Silva, but I have a feeling Franklin is going to do it anyway. Here's the undercard:

Sean Sherk Vs. Kenny Florian
Jon Fitch Vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Cheick Kongo Vs. Carmelo Marrero
Spencer Fisher Vs. Dan Lauzon
Keith Jardine Vs. Mike Nickels
Yushin Okami Vs. Kalib Starnes
Justin James Vs. Clay Guida
Kurt Pellegrino Vs. Junior Assuncao



Posted by: Double D

Looks to be a good fight! Franklin vs. Silva fight that is. To bad i gotta work. I got Anderson winning.



Posted by: Double D

Who do you got winning the main event?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

I got Franklin. I just think he's too well rounded. I'm pretty sure I heard Silva has a nice JJ game, but Franklin is decent too and is kinda tough to take down. I think this one may go at least 3 or 4 rounds.



Posted by: BigDyl

Silva and Franklin are evenly matched hypothetically.



Posted by: aceshigh

franklin is verry strong, im picking franklin



Posted by: durk

Franklin cuz that guy is jacked up on xience lol



Posted by: viet_jon

40 effin bux...............I'm too poor, can't afford it.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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40 effin bux...............I'm too poor, can't afford it.
See if there is a sportsbar near you playing it. Here's a list of locations:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=442166



Posted by: AKIRA

Duffys shows them..

Anyway its 10:30pm, whos winning thus far?



Posted by: the nut

Did you see Franklin's nose?



Posted by: the nut

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Duffys shows them..

Anyway its 10:30pm, whos winning thus far?
Anderson Silva 1st round TKO
Sherk Unanimous

Fitch Decision, Marrero Decision, Fisher TKO



Posted by: the nut

They just showed Guida submit James also.

And Pride fighting on PPV October 21 from Vegas.



Posted by: aceshigh

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Anderson Silva 1st round TKO
Sherk Unanimous

Fitch Decision, Marrero Decision, Fisher TKO
oh shiet!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Double D

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Looks to be a good fight! Franklin vs. Silva fight that is. To bad i gotta work. I got Anderson winning.
There I had it all along.



Posted by: ReproMan

Franklin looked completely outclassed. You could see it in Franklin's eyes after the first set of knees to the body he recieved that he knew he couldn't win. That clinch was WAAAY too much for him. From what he said afterwards it seemed like that (the clinch) was going to be his gameplan to neutralize Silva's striking power. Guess that backfired....

His fucking nose was mangled from that knee.

I was hoping Guida's trainer was going to shave his head between rounds, goddamnit that was annoying.



Posted by: fufu

Wow Franklin got fucked up! His nose was a wreck. No contest, he didn't even put a scratch on Anderson. Finally a fucking upset!!!



Posted by: Double D

Hey Fufu.....did you see, I called it. Not an upset in my book!



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Franklin looked completely outclassed. You could see it in Franklin's eyes after the first set of knees to the body he recieved that he knew he couldn't win. That clinch was WAAAY too much for him. From what he said afterwards it seemed like that (the clinch) was going to be his gameplan to neutralize Silva's striking power. Guess that backfired....

His fucking nose was mangled from that knee.

I was hoping Guida's trainer was going to shave his head between rounds, goddamnit that was annoying.
Lol. Me and my friends were saying the same thing. You'd think it would benefit him to at least tie it up or something.

As for Franklin/Silva, major props to Silva as he completely dominated Franklin easily. I was surprised it was that simple for him. Why Franklin didn't rip out of the clinch I don't know, but Silva capitalized and mauled him ala Chris Leben. It looked like Rich was a little afraid in there standing. He didn't look like his normal confident self. What's in store for the both of them now? Marquadt/Silva, Swick/Franklin or Silva/Swick? All I know is that someone better take Anderson Silva down quick to stand a chance.

Great night of fighting. What I thought was a weaker card turned out to be the best all year



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Lol. Me and my friends were saying the same thing. You'd think it would benefit him to at least tie it up or something.

As for Franklin/Silva, major props to Silva as he completely dominated Franklin easily. I was surprised it was that simple for him. Why Franklin didn't rip out of the clinch I don't know, but Silva capitalized and mauled him ala Chris Leben. It looked like Rich was a little afraid in there standing. He didn't look like his normal confident self. What's in store for the both of them now? Marquadt/Silva, Swick/Franklin or Silva/Swick? All I know is that someone better take Anderson Silva down quick to stand a chance.

Great night of fighting. What I thought was a weaker card turned out to be the best all year
Agreed, I thought it turned out to be a great card. Fitch looked impressive, and Florian showed enough heart to make a lopsided fight interesting at least.

I just watched a fight of Silva vs. Jeremy Horn. It seems to me that a fighter like Ortiz would be able to pick Silva apart. Horn had no trouble taking him down and with Ortiz's ground and pound it might be a mismatch. Apparently Silva's original intent was to fight at 205 and take on Liddell. Hopefully he goes up because there is NOBODY at 185 right now that stands a chance IMO. I don't think Liddell would even fare well as dominant as Silva looked tonight, but a ground and pounder like Ortiz just might do the trick.



Posted by: fufu

Sherk was spouting blood that entire fight. Florian shorts were soaked with it along with the rest of him. Bloodiest fight I have seen.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Sherk was spouting blood that entire fight. Florian shorts were soaked with it along with the rest of him. Bloodiest fight I have seen.
The bloodiest I have ever seen was @ UFC 61. It was Yves Edwards, when Joe Stevenson split him open. This was definitely a close second though.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Alright I was at a bar watching the fight so didn't really here any of the commentary. But what was the deal with Frankling not getting out of the Mauy Thai Clench? You would think he would learn pretty quick that shit this ain't working lets take it to the ground.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Alright I was at a bar watching the fight so didn't really here any of the commentary. But what was the deal with Frankling not getting out of the Mauy Thai Clench? You would think he would learn pretty quick that shit this ain't working lets take it to the ground.
From what it sounded like, the Muay Thai clinch was going to be Rich's strategy to win the fight. I think it was more of a pride thing him not getting out of it. Silva's strikes are so sharp, he didn't get a second round to re-think that gameplan......



Posted by: BigDyl

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Hey Fufu.....did you see, I called it. Not an upset in my book!
You're a genius! A total MMA expert!



Posted by: IainDaniel

There was some amazing camera angles and shots during the fight. It was unreal seeing the knees in slowmo and seeing franklins nose on theside of his face.



Posted by: BigDyl

I have said Franklin's overrated. But Silva isn't exactly a middleweight fedor.



Posted by: Double D

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You're a genius! A total MMA expert!
Arent telling me anything I dont know......



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

Any videos yet?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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The bloodiest I have ever seen was @ UFC 61. It was Yves Edwards, when Joe Stevenson split him open. This was definitely a close second though.
Yup the Yves Edwards cut @ 61 and the Edwin Dewees cut from this season of the UF Show both come to mind as the bloodiest.



Posted by: mike456

any vids?



Posted by: viet_jon

ya post links.........................i'm not reading this thread till i see the fights.



Posted by: fufu

I saw that one, the Sherk v Florian was bloodier IMO. Except this time the blood didn't splatter all over the ground, it got on Florian.



Posted by: Doublebase

Can't find the fights on youtube.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Can't find the fights on youtube.
I know, this sucks. I want to see the "deer in headlights" look in Franklin's eyes, and the 45 degree angle Silva put in his nose.



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

Im checking anywhere from 4 to 5 times a day, so if anyone finds them before me, post them up.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC View Post
I know, this sucks. I want to see the "deer in headlights" look in Franklin's eyes, and the 45 degree angle Silva put in his nose.
He did look scared the whole time. That was crazy. The way he approached the fight was bizarre. Think there will be a rematch down the road?



Posted by: SuperFlex

UFC 64 - Anderson Silva VS Rich Franklin

UFC 64 - Kenny Florian VS Sean Sherk

UFC 64 - Spencer Fisher VS Dan Lauzon

UFC 64 - Cheick Kongo VS Carmelo Marrero

UFC 64 - Kuniyoshi Hironaka VS Jon Fitch



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
He did look scared the whole time. That was crazy. The way he approached the fight was bizarre. Think there will be a rematch down the road?
To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Franklin for a good while. He had an all out war with Louisa, and absolutely destroyed last night. If anything he should work his way back up the ranks. Why not start with Leiben?



Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC View Post
To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Franklin for a good while. He had an all out war with Louisa, and absolutely destroyed last night. If anything he should work his way back up the ranks. Why not start with Leiben?
Franklin vs Swick needs to happen.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Good job!



Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC View Post
Good job!
I know...



Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC View Post
To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Franklin for a good while. He had an all out war with Louisa, and absolutely destroyed last night. If anything he should work his way back up the ranks. Why not start with Leiben?
Or the "Worlds Most Dangerous Man"?



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

How do you get those videos to download? I don't see anything to click on.

EDIT: nvm I found it



Posted by: viet_jon

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I have a premium mega account too.

where'd u find that?



Posted by: mike456

do you have to register or something to download?



Posted by: viet_jon

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do you have to register or something to download?

nope........just wait for the 60 second timer.



Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by viet_jon View Post
nope........just wait for the 60 second timer.
mines didn't work



Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by mike456 View Post
mines didn't work
yeah I can get it to work either.



Posted by: viet_jon

ill find a place to upload for you guys.,....wait



Posted by: mike456

I put the code in and waited the time, than clicked download, but after that it doesnt work...



Posted by: mike456

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Originally Posted by viet_jon View Post
ill find a place to upload for you guys.,....wait
thanks



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by mike456 View Post
I put the code in and waited the time, than clicked download, but after that it doesnt work...
Download a free version of winrar.



Posted by: viet_jon

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room1...c64_fight5.wmv



Posted by: Doublebase

Holy Crap I just watched the fight. Silva is one scary dude. I totally thought Franklin was gonna own him. I didn't do my research on Silva. That Muai Thai clinch was sick. Franklin looked like he was going to throw up. What did Franklin say after the fight?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Could someone with an Upload program do me a favor and try to find the Peter Manfredo / Joey Spina fight from last night? I was watching UFC and didn't get a chance to watch. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks



Posted by: Pedigree

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Originally Posted by Doublebase View Post
Holy Crap I just watched the fight. Silva is one scary dude. I totally thought Franklin was gonna own him. I didn't do my research on Silva. That Muai Thai clinch was sick. Franklin looked like he was going to throw up. What did Franklin say after the fight?
Franklin said that he underestimated Silva's strength in the clinch. Understatement of the year!



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Could someone with an Upload program do me a favor and try to find the Peter Manfredo / Joey Spina fight from last night? I was watching UFC and didn't get a chance to watch. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Nevermind...found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHXX55hnQVo



Posted by: AKIRA

God damn I just got finished watching the Sherk Fight. Now that was a pretty good fucking fight! I was surprised that little guy was as tough as he was (not sherk). I was surprised Sherk couldnt make him submit, but Sherk did dominate most of the fight regardless of that cut...which seemed to be an advantage to Sherk!



Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
God damn I just got finished watching the Sherk Fight. Now that was a pretty good fucking fight! I was surprised that little guy was as tough as he was (not sherk). I was surprised Sherk couldnt make him submit, but Sherk did dominate most of the fight regardless of that cut...which seemed to be an advantage to Sherk!
Sherk is not going to submit a BJJ blackbelt...



Florian needs to work on takedown defense. Florian is still a relative newbie verses sherk who has 32 pro fights under his belt.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
God damn I just got finished watching the Sherk Fight. Now that was a pretty good fucking fight! I was surprised that little guy was as tough as he was (not sherk). I was surprised Sherk couldnt make him submit, but Sherk did dominate most of the fight regardless of that cut...which seemed to be an advantage to Sherk!
Yeah Florian showed alot of heart, but Sherk is a friggin beast at 155.



Posted by: AKIRA

He looked a lot like a sloppy Matt Hughes. It seemed to me that Florian couldve been taken down better, but Sherk never completely closed the deal.

After all thoise hits, that skinny bastard kept coming. It was like Rocky on crack.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Sherk is not going to submit a BJJ blackbelt...



Florian needs to work on takedown defense. Florian is still a relative newbie verses sherk who has 32 pro fights under his belt.
No one can stop Sherk's takedown. That's the quickest shoot I've ever seen. And he's 5'6" and already low to the ground to begin with.



Posted by: AKIRA

Eh, Florian had some good defense here and there..not sure if it was luck though.

Sherk's takedowns were pretty fucking quick.

It was quite interesting to see someone bleed that much and still have steam in the engine at round 5.



Posted by: mike456

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0LVce9ifyWg



Posted by: Goodfella9783

UFC 64 Post Fight Conference:

Dana announces that the UFC will be going global and creeping into Europe within the next few years.

Swick asks for a Title shot from the crowd

Dana talks about the next UF show on Spike



Posted by: drew_c

I can't remember the last time I watched a fight and actually felt bad for one of the fighters. I had predicted a KO for Silva but at no point did it occur to me that it would happen so fast.

A champion like Silva is great for the UFC's credibility amongst longtime MMA fans. Now they just need to clean up the HW division.

The potential fight with Swick is interesting. Swicks stand up is more technical than Franklins, but I still think no match for Silva's. The ground advantage has to go to Silva as well. It seems like he may be sitting on the belt for the foreseeable future.



Posted by: ReproMan

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I can't remember the last time I watched a fight and actually felt bad for one of the fighters. I had predicted a KO for Silva but at no point did it occur to me that it would happen so fast.

A champion like Silva is great for the UFC's credibility amongst longtime MMA fans. Now they just need to clean up the HW division.

The potential fight with Swick is interesting. Swicks stand up is more technical than Franklins, but I still think no match for Silva's. The ground advantage has to go to Silva as well. It seems like he may be sitting on the belt for the foreseeable future.
Ditto, I figured it would go the distance and Franklin would squeak out a crooked decision. Silva is on top of his game right now. There are talks of bringing Lindland back to UFC to fight him....








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