wuz up im 23 and finished my first cycle bout a 3 months ago.
my cycle was test prop./deca/dbol
400ml/400ml and 6 dbol's a day ...
ran this cycle for 10 weeks but my hgc never came! should I still get it????
what can hapen if i dont take it???
.. i took everything else (nolva/arimidex) and i had a full bottle of anabolics extreme's PCT so i took that too
Posted by: BigPapaPump68
Please post your exact cycle such as test 150mg/eod. You should have all of your supplies when you first start your cycle, it would only make sense if a problem came along.
the test was pro so yeah 150, deca 200 and the dbols were 5ml (pink thais)
Posted by: Pirate!
When was your last shot?
Posted by: Kase
my last shot was more than a 4 months ago and it was test .. heres he problem.. Eve tho i know ur not suppossed to stop all three at the same time for lack of info i pretty much did ..so yes u guessed right i hav shut down! my question is how long till my shit gets back to normal and whether i should take sumthin to help ..... lyk Hcg or clomid... ????
Posted by: dg806
Thats a loaded question. Several things are wrong here to start. Not having the info you needed and taking at too early of an age(this can possibly casue some undesired long term effects)
How do you know you are shut down? Have you had proper blood work drawn to see where all the critical things like HDL/LDL, Cholesterol, liver (ALT, AST), triglycerides, and test level stand?
Posted by: Kase
nope never checked any of that. i know theres no single answers for my question but wut do you think can go wrong ??? i dont really hav any side effects other that bein a lil limp ... should i do a 4 week pct of nolva and clomid or wut??? i dont really think i need the hcg since my balls seem to be fine..
aight im gonna read that right now but should i do the clomid and nolva for pct or wut do u recomend??
Posted by: Pirate!
I recommend you take Tormifene instead of nolva or clomid. It will raise your LH. You can get it here. Start at 150 mg/day and taper down to 50 mg/day over the course of 3 or 4 weeks. You don't need hcg.
Posted by: Kase
whats the difference?? just wanna know for future reference ... would this help the limpin?? i figure this is thanks to the deca and dbols huh?
Dostinex was made for prolactin related gyno, which you don't seem to have and would do no good.
Posted by: Kase
how long u think it'll take for the tormifine for shippin???? cialis is startin to run low feel me!!!
Posted by: Pirate!
No need for dostinex in your situation. Talk to AG-guys about how long it will take. I'm guessing less than 5 days. If your cialis is running low, I recommend you pick of some Levitra from AG, as well.
Posted by: Kase
aight cool just got sum blood work done this mornin so depending on the results i'll see if i need anythin else
Posted by: Kase
aigh just got my results from the blood work and i'm in the clear! no low test, no liver problems! so i know been off for about 4months and im ready to start my new cycle but this time Im gonna ask for sum suggestion towards the safer shit lyk test , primo and maybe something else .... Pirate i'm open for ur suggestions looks lyk u got mad experience on this stuff...member is only my second cycle tho..
Posted by: Pirate!
I recommend you do more reading before jumping into another cycle. Here is a good second cycle, IMO.
Weeks
1-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/wk
1-4 Turnibol 20-25 mg twice a day
2-11 HCG 200 iu every three days
3-12 Aromasin 12.5 mg ED
12.5--> PCT w/ tamoxifen citrate or toremifene citrate
Posted by: Kase
been doin hell of readin .. i think i read every god damn page on this site already!!! so this looks good and i read sum good stuff bout aromasin like not only can lower estrogen but also raise testosterone and even increase IGF levels..not bad!
the only questions i hav are all on the turnibol.. didnt find that much info on this one.. sum say its lyk oral version of deca???? also read that halodrol 50 converts to turnibol (even tho apparently u would need twice the dosage) think u can giv me a lil inside if i havent already asked too much!
Posted by: Kase
whut about eq instead of the turnibol??? also no primo??? wouldnt this help me keep more of my gains???