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Originally Posted by seank02
Let me know what you guys think.
I am 140 6'2" shootin for 190-200 about 12%bf Nutrition: Cals - 4839 Fat - 174 ....Sat - 43 ....Poly - 57 ....Mono - 56 Carbs - 388 Protein - 429 Meal 1 5:00 - 6:00 -3 Egg whites -1 whole egg -1/2c oats -12oz milk -1tbls Flaxseed oil Meal 2 9:00 -Banana + Peanut Butter on whole wheat bread -2 Egg whites -1 Whole Egg -12oz water Meal 3 12:00 -1/2c cottage cheese. -1/2 can tuna on whole wheat bread -Banana -12oz water -tbls olive oil Meal 4 3:00 -1/2c Brown rice -8oz chicken in wheat wrap -yogurt -12oz water Meal 5 5:00 -1/2c oats -12oz water -Shake ....-tbls flax ....-Scoop whey ....-Strawberries ....-8oz Milk ***WORKOUT*** -12oz water Meal 6 8:00 -Chicken breast, salmon or flank steak -1c barley -12oz water Is that too much protein to take in 1 day?? Iwas thinking it was but im no expert. Anything help would be good. thanks. |
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Originally Posted by WBM
Way too much protein. If you're bulking, you're better off getting the biggest portion of your calories from fats and carbohydrates.
I'm curious, though...what does your current nutrition look like? |
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Originally Posted by JimSnow
I say again.
Workout, rest, and eat like hell, anything and all goes! At your size, you'll see magnificent improvements... the diet, you'll adapt after 6 months to a year - when you're big and strong. Don't worry about carbs, fats and reading too much. |
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
How are you meant to make adjustments if you just eat like hell? Suppose you are putting on too much fat, how are you meant to look back and see where to make changes and improve on your progress?
The advice you have posted is really poor. This is about educating yourselfs on what certain macros and foods have an impact on your progress. Thus making the best and healthiest progress. |
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
Why is it a waste of time to educate yourself about your body?
Where has he said he is a hard-gainer? or previous diet experience? Why not instill proper eating habits at this age, instead of developing tendacies for shit foods, where that habit will be harder to break when you are older. |
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Originally Posted by JimSnow
Practically... he, and others, are typically making their diets to stringent (from the onsett), too tight... always coming to the wrong conclusions based on common and repeated misconceptions.
We all know, as "building enthusiasts", that we have to "eat big". As a newbie, think that way... your gains will be big. As long as your diet is "thoughtful enough" - you'll cover your nutritional bases. When you start trying to cut calories, fats, etc. without doing the roadwork... you're probably cutting into your gains. |
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
If they don't learn from there previous mistakes then that is there own stupidity.
And you don't have to eat big to be big. I am 225, and could gain weight on 3000 cals a day. There is no general guide line that is going to work for every newbie and that is my point. So it would be best to take this time right now and learn proper habits, and make adjustments. There is no quick fix for wanting to gain 40lbs, just like when cutting there is no quick fix. The only thing you are setting yourself up for is problems in the future. So best to tackle the issues right now, instead of thinking your actions will lead to no future problems, but just eating what you want. |
), and should never be treated as such. It is best to make informed and educated decisions about what you eat, why you are eating it, and what the effects can be. On the other hand, I think Jim is saying not to become too overloaded with info (since there are a lot of big shot opinions out there that conflict with one another). I would seek professional opinions from those who are also "educated" and practice what they preach, and then make the proper adjustments from the start. You can always tweak as you go along to personalize your diet.
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Originally Posted by seank02
first of all thanks for all the advice.
I have a very hard time gaining weight, my dad was the same way. When ever i eat with my buddies they are allways asking, "how the hell do you weigh 140 eatin like that?" But the thing is i have never stuck to a diet and tried to eat alot consistently on a daily basis. I think the reason for that is because i am working 55 60 hours a week on a construction jobsite (no microwave or anything). I no thats no excuse and if i put my mind to it, it could be done. The other thing is i am 20 yrs old and still feel as though i need to have a life and go out. But with that said i would like to try to start out right and eat healthy, i no i have to much protein in there but i am affraid if i take out the protein foods im gonna loose calories and other nutritions. Is the protien a problem if i dont change it up? All excess is going to turn into fat correct? By the way my diet going into this diet is absolutely horrbible. Thanks everyone. |
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Originally Posted by visionsect
Jim and IainDaniel are both making important statements, and I feel I understand where each is coming from.There has to be a balance somewhere between the two points. However, I completely agree with IainDaniel that any beginner should become completely "educated" when making important decisions about their body. Education is safety and power.
Your body is not a toy (although we like to think so at certain times ), and should never be treated as such. It is best to make informed and educated decisions about what you eat, why you are eating it, and what the effects can be. On the other hand, I think Jim is saying not to become too overloaded with info (since there are a lot of big shot opinions out there that conflict with one another). I would seek professional opinions from those who are also "educated" and practice what they preach, and then make the proper adjustments from the start. You can always tweak as you go along to personalize your diet. |
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Originally Posted by visionsect
BTW Sean, about 7-years ago, I was 6'1 and 145lbs (very similar to you). Then I went to college and started doing less weight training, eating very bad, but at least I was practicing Mixed Martial Arts 3X a week, if not more. When I finished college I was 188lbs and most of that was on my belly (too many pizzas).
I decided I was unhappy with my physical appearance so I got back into weight training and still practice MMA. I have lost most of the fat so far and am much more toned now. I weigh in at about 178lbs now and am still slowly but surely gaining through use of good eating habits and training. So be patient, be happy, eat good, do your studies through the stickies here and always make sure any advice you take has good research behind it. You will make the gains through consistency and putting your heart into what you do. Good luck my friend. |
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