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The show "30 days"

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Posted by: AKIRA

The same asshole that did SuperSize Me has a show called 30 days and tonights episode was on a man that took GH and test for 30 days. Well, he didnt finish it due to problems in his liver and having NO live sperm in his semen sample.

Id post a vid, but I cant find it. I dont know much about anabolics, but if anyone else watched this, Id like to know what was missing from this guy's case that could implicate that steroids was the cause..



Posted by: Gordo

I remember that, and they had Bob Chic as his trainer. He said something like "I'm a pro bodybuilder and I don't have to take any of this stuff" referring to his supplement list. M'kay Bob, since you're "supplemented" in "other" ways

That episode had an agenda, plain and simple. The guy used under the guidance of HRT and life extension clinics to get back to his highschool shape and thought he could do it in 30 days ( since it only took years to become deconditioned), what a tool.



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

He was taking GH and Test at 125mg/w. He was also taking about 30 other pills a day for his treatmeant. Bob chic was right when he said the to much of anything isn't good. All of those pills put a stress on his liver, and raised his enzymes.



Posted by: AKIRA

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He was taking GH and Test at 125mg/w. He was also taking about 30 other pills a day for his treatmeant. Bob chic was right when he said the to much of anything isn't good. All of those pills put a stress on his liver, and raised his enzymes.
Though I did think what Gordo thought when I heard what Bob said, I did also think about all those other pills + his injections.

At that point, the guy in the show I believe stopped taking the supplements but continued the injections.

That guys wife was pissing me off. Though I know she wanted him to be safe, her negativity wouldve fucking drove me crazy. I LOVED it when the trainer was being "rude" to her, even though I didnt think she was at all. "Can you please not be rude to my wife?" Fuck you. If that sack of shit is going to be here and wants attention, Ill give her exactly what she wants.


In any case, the sperm count....if he had continued his 30 day experiment and then stopped everything, would his sperm count gone back to normal? Shit, lets say he did it for 90 days, could this shit been permanent?



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

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Though I did think what Gordo thought when I heard what Bob said, I did also think about all those other pills + his injections.

At that point, the guy in the show I believe stopped taking the supplements but continued the injections.

That guys wife was pissing me off. Though I know she wanted him to be safe, her negativity wouldve fucking drove me crazy. I LOVED it when the trainer was being "rude" to her, even though I didnt think she was at all. "Can you please not be rude to my wife?" Fuck you. If that sack of shit is going to be here and wants attention, Ill give her exactly what she wants.


In any case, the sperm count....if he had continued his 30 day experiment and then stopped everything, would his sperm count gone back to normal? Shit, lets say he did it for 90 days, could this shit been permanent?
He stopped his injections also. The raised liver enzymes weren't from his injections. His wife was definately fucking annoying. The reason his sperm count was down, was because his natural test was shut down causing him to be infertle. It happends to all steroid users, thats why we use post cycle therapy. Alot of people use HCG throghout their whole cycle so this will not happen, but the rest who use it will add it in towards the end. HCG jump starts a mans natural test production.



Posted by: Mudge

One of the mods on 'Ology was off for 4 weeks in a total of 3 years and just got his wife pregnant again.

Not everyone is created equal (hope y'all know that by now) but rare is the person who shoots worthless loads on test for a whopping 30 days.



Posted by: AKIRA

So basically, this guy paniced (with the help of his supportive wife) and jumped to conclusions...

Why didnt the doctors let him know about this shit beforehand? Some of it is pretty well-known. I mean, I know that when you juice, your nat test shuts down, so why did this guy seemed surprised? Cuz the Drs didnt tell him? Why not? Plus, if its not permanent, why not tell him that either? And of course, if there are supplements to take to keep your sperm count up, why didnt he take them as well?

Either way, he dropped, what 15lbs? And I forget how much was bodyfat %.



Posted by: AKIRA

Oh yeah, besides his wife being a bitch (prolly cuz he was working out with that hottie!), I loved his "outrages." Jesus, the guy was a total bore, personality minus all the way. He should be thanking god to finally have a lil aggression now and again.

I have a theory that people with NO natural 'tempers' have a harder time handling their new found aggression than of those WITH natural tempers. When you learn to live with a bad temper your whole life, I would have to say its easier to identify when youre getting mad and that its time to "take 5," than a person that has a temper tantrum once a year.



Posted by: Mudge

It sounds like a bunch of bullshit from a heavily biased cockbag, its a shame there can't be some honesty there.

Testosterone being shut down is not the same as having azoospermia.

Have you ever juiced? I assume you haven't unless it was OTC, in which case I want to know where this "newfound aggression" should be coming from that you seem to believe is occurring.



Posted by: Pirate!

I got my ole' lady pregnant while months into a heavy cycle of gear. It wasn't planned, and there is no doubt I had been shut down for months. The role of FSH in fertility of men isn't fully understood. We know it signals the sertoli cells in the testes to produce androgen binding protein (ABP). The ABP binds testosterone, helping to keep it concentrated in the seminiferous tubles, which allows spermatogenesis. Clearly, if you are using high doeses of testosterone you don't need ABP in order to have high amount of test in your seminiferous tubles. Spermatocytes do not have androgen receptors, but they do have ABP receptors, so testosterone isn't directly involved. Like I said, the process isn't well understood. Nevertheless, spermatogenesis can take place without any FSH.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Yeah those were last season's episodes. They had a second season that aired this past summer too. I thought the minimum wage one was good from season 1. The prison one from season 2 was good too.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Yeah those were last season's episodes. They had a second season that aired this past summer too. I thought the minimum wage one was good from season 1. The prison one from season 2 was good too.
Id love to watch it, but I always seem to miss it. This was the first episode Ive watched, but I do remember the ads for both episodes you describe.

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Have you ever juiced? I assume you haven't unless it was OTC, in which case I want to know where this "newfound aggression" should be coming from that you seem to believe is occurring.
No I havent. I pay pretty close attention to the side effects though since I workout. I have two immediate friends that are monsters and theyve never had a shroud of a problem with losing their temper. They do however have bad tempers...on OR off the juice. One of these two friends got a third friend on it, and though he didnt turn into a monster that they did, he did have a problem with his "newfound aggression." It was like he had never had a temper before, let alone knew how to control it.

See the comparison? These are just two of my immediate friends so I am not stating facts here...



Posted by: musclepump

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One of the mods on 'Ology was off for 4 weeks in a total of 3 years and just got his wife pregnant again.

Not everyone is created equal (hope y'all know that by now) but rare is the person who shoots worthless loads on test for a whopping 30 days.
My wife wants kids, I don't... I should just stay on forever and hope I'm that rare guy



Posted by: Pirate!

You shoot worthless loads all the time, musclepump.



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