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Thyroid problems

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Posted by: WATTS

how do thyroid problems affect weight loss? I know a few people with these problems and was curious as to why this was the case.


Posted by: P-funk

the thyroid hormones triiodothyronine (t3) and thyroxine (t4) help to establish metabolic rate.

If someone is hypothyroid (low t3) then their optimal metabolic rate will be compromised.


Posted by: Devlin

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Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
the thyroid hormones triiodothyronine (t3) and thyroxine (t4) help to establish metabolic rate.

If someone is hypothyroid (low t3) then their optimal metabolic rate will be compromised.
Sorry P-funk I have to add that hypothyroidism is also caused by low T4.


Posted by: WATTS

so how would one construct a diet for this, would it differ from a regualar cutting diet if he wanted to lose fat? He has Graves Disease


Posted by: P-funk

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Sorry P-funk I have to add that hypothyroidism is also caused by low T4.
T4 changes to to the metabolically active T3. If you are low in one wouldn't you be low in the other?


Posted by: MeatZatk

He ought to see his doctor about a perscription medication. I suffered from Hypothyroidism a few years back and my doc had me take 50 micrograms of synthroid once a day. After 6 months or so, it corrected itself.


Posted by: WATTS

hes taking something called Toperal for a beta blocker and he is taking Tapizol for his thyroid...i may have misspelled the meds.


Posted by: dg806

Toprol is for blood pressure.


Posted by: Devlin

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Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
T4 changes to to the metabolically active T3. If you are low in one wouldn't you be low in the other?
Usually yes, if a person has a low T4, the person's T3 will also be low. However, a person can have a normal T4 and a low T3 if a person has problems converting T4 to T3.


Posted by: Devlin

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Originally Posted by WATTS View Post
hes taking something called Toperal for a beta blocker and he is taking Tapizol for his thyroid...i may have misspelled the meds.
There is a drug called Tapazole but it is for HYPERthyroidism. In other words it is given to a person who over produces thyroid hormones. If your friend has Graves Disease then he/she produces too much T4 & T3 and would tend to not be able to put on weight or would experience rapid weight loss without dieting. Tapazole would decrease the amount of thyroid hormones the body produces allowing a person to maintain a certain weight or put on weight. As for the type of diet for cutting for a person with Graves Disease who is on Tapazole...just eat clean.


Posted by: Devlin

Here I found this link about Graves Disease. It is very informative.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gra...181/DSECTION=6


Posted by: hardasnails1973

A person with low t4 can have high t-3 because they lack cortisol to drive it into the cell. Adrenals and thyroid problems go hand and hand. Thyroid drives adrenals and vice versa. Alot of problems with thyroid is in ability to convert due to adrenal imbalances which is showing up more and more due to our high prressure society and not taking time out to enjoy life. Its go go go. Take some time out and examine your life style then make neccessary changes in order to help reduce stress on the body.


Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by Devlin View Post
Usually yes, if a person has a low T4, the person's T3 will also be low. However, a person can have a normal T4 and a low T3 if a person has problems converting T4 to T3.
How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).


Posted by: Devlin

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Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).
It's not different, I was just adding to what you said

I was trying to say that hypothyroidism is not based solely on T3.


Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by Devlin View Post
It's not different, I was just adding to what you said

I was trying to say that hypothyroidism is not based solely on T3.
oh. i was just asking. I wanted to make sure that I had it correct and that there wasn't something i was missing.


Posted by: Devlin

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oh. i was just asking. I wanted to make sure that I had it correct and that there wasn't something i was missing.
It's ok, you didn't miss anything.

What I'm not getting is why a person who is taking meds for hyperthyroidism would ask about a cutting diet. Granted Graves Disease causes other problems inaddition to elevated thyroid levels, but heck if person with Graves Disease wanted to cut, just stop or decrease the Tapazole.


Posted by: hardasnails1973

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Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
How is that different from what I said? hypothyroid would be low T3......you just said it yourself (a person can have normal T4 and still have low T3; or they can have low T4 which then would lead to lower T3).
You need to distquish ft3 from serum t3. You can have a high serum t3 but low ft3 and still experience hypothyroid symptoms. same wasy as you can have high testosterone, but low free test and feel like shit.


Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by hardasnails1973 View Post
You need to distquish ft3 from serum t3. You can have a high serum t3 but low ft3 and still experience hypothyroid symptoms. same wasy as you can have high testosterone, but low free test and feel like shit.
eitherway, the defenition of hypothyroid is low T3......if you have low testosterone, you would say "I have low testosterone"....not "I have low free testosterone...etc....".


Posted by: hardasnails1973

It all comes down to bioavailability what is usable to the body. I have seen guys with 1000 ng/dl and low free and have symptoms of low testosterone and people with 500 ng/dl and high free testosterone are better off. Problem with drs not properly treating low testosterone


Posted by: flav

Hey,

What are the major differences between different types of thyroid problems?







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