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Posted by: the nut

THIS WEEK'S SCHEDULE - WEEK 16

Thursday, Dec. 21
Green Bay 9, Minnesota 7
Saturday, Dec. 23
Kansas City at Oakland 8:00 pm
Sunday, Dec. 24
Baltimore at Pittsburgh 1:00 pm
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 pm
Chicago at Detroit 1:00 pm
Indianapolis at Houston 1:00 pm
New England at Jacksonville 1:00 pm
New Orleans at N.Y. Giants 1:00 pm
Tampa Bay at Cleveland 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Buffalo 1:00 pm
Washington at St. Louis 1:00 pm
Arizona at San Francisco 4:05 pm
Cincinnati at Denver 4:15 pm
San Diego at Seattle 4:15 pm
Monday, Dec. 25
Philadelphia at Dallas 5:00 pm 125 124
N.Y. Jets at Miami 8:30 pm 125 124

AFC
In Right Now
1 San Diego 12-2 (AFC West Champs)
2 Indianapolis 11-3 (AFC South Champs)
3 Baltimore 11-3 (AFC North Champs)
4 New England 10-4 (AFC East leader)
5 Denver 8-6
6 Cincinnati 8-6
Still Alive
7 Jacksonville 8-6
8 N.Y. Jets 8-6
9 Buffalo 7-7
10 Pittsburgh 7-7
11 Tennessee 7-7
12 Kansas City 7-7
Eliminated
13 Miami 6-8 (Week 15)
14 Houston 4-10 (Week 14)
15 Cleveland 4-10 (Week 14)
16 Oakland 2-12 (Week 12)

AFC Tiebreakers
Indianapolis is the No. 2 seed based on a better won-lost-tied percentage in common games with Baltimore (3-1 to Ravens' 2-2).

Denver is the No. 5 seed based on conference record with Cincinnati, Jacksonville and N.Y. Jets (7-4 to Bengals' 6-4, Jaguars' 5-5 and Jets' 5-5).

Cincinnati is the No. 6 seed based on conference record with Jacksonville and N.Y. Jets (6-4 to Jaguars' 5-5 and Jets' 5-5).

Week 16 AFC Scenarios
AFC East
New England can clinch the AFC East Division with:
A win or tie OR
A N.Y. Jets loss or tie

New England can clinch a playoff berth with:
A tie between Cincinnati and Denver

AFC North
Baltimore has clinched the AFC North Division.

Cincinnati can clinch a playoff berth with:
A win and a Buffalo loss or tie and a N.Y. Jets loss OR
A win and a Buffalo loss or tie and a Jacksonville loss

AFC South
Indianapolis has clinched AFC South Division.

Indianapolis can clinch a first-round bye with:
A win and a Baltimore loss

AFC West
San Diego has clinched AFC West Division.

San Diego can clinch home-field advantage with:
A win and a Baltimore loss or tie OR
A tie and a Baltimore loss and an Indianapolis loss or tie

San Diego can clinch a first-round bye with:
A win OR
An Indianapolis loss OR
A tie and an Indianapolis loss or tie OR
A tie and a Baltimore loss

Denver can clinch a playoff berth with:
A win and a Kansas City loss or tie and a N.Y. Jets loss OR
A win and a Kansas City loss or tie and a Jacksonville loss

NFC
In Right Now
1 Chicago 12-2 (NFC North Champs)
2 New Orleans 9-5 (NFC South Champs)
3 Dallas 9-5 (NFC East leader)
4 Seattle 8-6 (NFC West leader)
5 Philadelphia 8-6
6 N.Y. Giants 7-7
Still Alive
7 Atlanta 7-7
8 Green Bay 7-8
9 San Francisco 6-8
10 Carolina 6-8
11 St. Louis 6-8
Eliminated
12 Minnesota 6-9 (Week 16)
13 Washington 5-9 (Week 14)
14 Arizona 4-10 (Week 14)
15 Tampa Bay 3-11 (Week 14)
16 Detroit 2-12 (Week 13)

NFC Tiebreakers
New Orleans is the No. 2 seed based on head-to-head record with Dallas (1-0).

N.Y. Giants are the No. 6 seed based on head-to-head record with Atlanta (1-0).

Week 16 NFC Scenarios
NFC East
Dallas has clinched a playoff berth.

Dallas can clinch an NFC East title with:
A win

Philadelphia can clinch a playoff berth with:
A win OR
A tie and EITHER
A N.Y. Giants loss or tie OR
An Atlanta loss

N.Y. Giants can clinch a playoff berth with:
A win and an Atlanta loss and a Philadelphia win or tie and EITHER
A Seattle win or tie OR
A San Francisco loss or tie

NFC North
Chicago has clinched NFC North Division, a 1st round bye and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.

NFC South
New Orleans has clinched NFC South Division.

New Orleans can clinch the No. 2 seed and a first-round bye with:
A win and a Dallas loss

NFC West
Seattle can clinch NFC West division title with:
A win or tie OR
A San Francisco loss or tie

Posted by: the nut

AFC
1. SD
2. Indy
3. Baltimore
4. NE
5. Den
6. NYJ

NFC
1. Chicago
2. Dallas
3. NO
4. Sea
5. Phi
6. NYG

Posted by: goandykid

You forgot to mention Washington.

I heard Daniel Snyder is going to buy us a new, 7th playoff spot.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by goandykid

You forgot to mention Washington.

I heard Daniel Snyder is going to buy us a new, 7th playoff spot.

No he didn't, those chumps were eliminated in the preseason.

Gonna be some good games this weekend.

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

No he didn't, those chumps were eliminated in the preseason.

Gonna be some good games this weekend.

They were eliminated once Senile Gibbs took over.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by P-funk

They were eliminated once Senile Gibbs took over.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

I was watching Pats show on local TV and they were saying if the Pats lose their last two and the Jets win theirs, the Pats can be out altogether.

Posted by: goandykid

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Originally Posted by P-funk

They were eliminated once Senile Gibbs took over.

Gibbs will take back the play calling this next season.

And he isn't senile, just mild-mannered.

Posted by: the nut

Went to the Giants game today. So pitiful! 2 minutes into the fourth quarter there was no one in the stadium.

Good chants going... "Tom must go!", "Coughlin Blows!", and my favorite "We want Handley!"

There's nothing more entertaining than a Giants game when they are underachieving! Unless of course, you're a Giants fan.

Posted by: the nut

Mile High Miracle....

How does that happen?

Posted by: bigss75

Steelers got axed today. Ben played like shit

Posted by: Doublebase

The giants.

Posted by: Doublebase

The cowboys.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

The cowboys.

Already earned a playoff spot.

Posted by: IainDaniel

So it is pretty much between the Packers, Giants, Panthers, and Rams for the last playoff spot in the NFC

Go Packers

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NFC EAST DIVISION

Dallas has clinched playoff berth.
Dallas can clinch division with:
1) DAL win + PHI loss or tie, OR 2) DAL tie + PHI loss
Philadelphia has clinched playoff berth.
Philadelphia can clinch division with:
1) PHI win, OR
2) DAL loss, OR
3) PHI tie + DAL tie
New York Giants can clinch playoff berth with:
1) NYG win + NYG clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over GB, OR
2) NYG win + GB loss or tie, OR
3) NYG tie + GB loss or tie + STL loss or tie + ATL loss or tie + CAR loss or tie, OR
4) GB loss + STL loss + ATL loss + CAR loss
NFC NORTH DIVISION

Chicago has clinched home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs.
Green Bay can clinch playoff berth with:
1) GB win + NYG win + GB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over NYG, OR
2) GB win + NYG loss or tie + STL loss or tie, OR
3) GB win + NYG loss or tie + CAR win, OR
4) GB win + NYG loss or tie + ATL win, OR
5) GB tie + NYG loss + STL loss + ATL loss or tie + CAR loss or tie
NFC SOUTH DIVISION

New Orleans has clinched first-round bye.
Carolina can clinch playoff berth with:
1) CAR win + NYG loss or tie + GB loss or tie, OR
2) CAR tie + NYG loss + GB loss + STL loss or tie + ATL loss or tie
Atlanta can clinch playoff berth with:
1) ATL win + CAR loss or tie + GB loss or tie + NYG loss or tie, OR
2) ATL tie + CAR loss + GB loss + NYG loss + STL loss
NFC WEST DIVISION

Seattle has clinched division title.
St. Louis can clinch playoff berth with:
1) STL win + NYG loss or tie + CAR loss or tie + ATL loss or tie, OR
2) STL tie + NYG loss + CAR loss + ATL loss + GB loss

Posted by: MCx2

Yeah Eagles.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

St. Louis can clinch playoff berth with:
1) STL win + NYG loss or tie + CAR loss or tie + ATL loss or tie, OR
2) STL tie + NYG loss + CAR loss + ATL loss + GB loss

Ah well, at the start of the season if someone told me the Rams would still be in the playoff hunt going into the last week of the season, I can't say I'd be disappointed.

The scary thing is that it is possible that Washington will beat the Giants AND New Orleans will beat Carolina AND Philly will beat Atlanta.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Yeah Eagles.

I'm actually pulling for the Eagles now that McNabb is no longer leading the offense. Have Philly fans accepted Garcia yet? I remember the 1st or 2nd game Garcia started the fans were booing him, cheering when he was down after getting slightly injured, and chanting Feely. I found that pretty classless.

Posted by: goandykid

Philly fans don't accept anyone, let alone Garcia.

I want the Pack to get the last spot. Then win it all, and Brett Favre to throw 7 td passes in the Superbowl in a win over the Chargers.

Posted by: MCx2

Garcia has earned everyone's respect in Philly as far as I know. They weren't booing Garcia so much as cheering on AJ Feely, but they know who's the main man now...

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

but they know who's the gay man now...

that is what TO said!!

Posted by: MCx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

that is what TO said!!

Wait, according to xxxxsteroidsxxxx, I'm Gayman!

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

Philly fans don't accept anyone, let alone Garcia.

I want the Pack to get the last spot. Then lose it all, and Brett Favre to throw 7 interceptions in the first round loss to the Eagles.

I can't stand Favre.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by the nut

I can't stand Favre.

Really? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone not liking Brett Favre.

Posted by: the nut

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Really? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone not liking Brett Favre.

I used have nothing but respect for him until the Michael Strahan incident. He made a mockery of the record. I realize it's only numbers, but it's still like spitting in Gastineau's face if you ask me. Not to mention, the month's after each season that he makes everyone wait to see what he's doing. And each week I watch him consistantly toss balls up for grabs, and listen to all the commentators praise him when a lucky one is caught. I'm just tired of him all together.

Posted by: MCx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

So Brett Farve is the diabolical mastermind behind the conspiracy to metaphorically spit in Mark Gastineau's face, and forever remove him from the record books, leaving only a dirty pig of an ex-wife to carry on the legacy of his name?

Genius!!

Brett Favre is cooler than I could ever imagine.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Genius!!

Brett Favre is cooler than I could ever imagine.

Whatever, teabag him all you want I couldn't care less. He's a tool in my book.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

"I'm in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass."

Posted by: shiznit2169

I agree that i am also tired of Favre. Don't get me wrong, he had a great career and he's a hall of famer for sure but all the espn analysts and fans are sucking this guy's balls big time. He isn't that great anymore and he's only making things worse the last few years with a terrible team and throwing more interceptions than ever before. His name is always mentioned everywhere and i'm getting sick of it so he needs to seriously hang up his cleats after this season.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

I agree that i am also tired of Favre. Don't get me wrong, he had a great career and he's a hall of famer for sure but all the espn analysts and fans are sucking this guy's balls big time. He isn't that great anymore and he's only making things worse the last few years with a terrible team and throwing more interceptions than ever before. His name is always mentioned everywhere and i'm getting sick of it so he needs to seriously hang up his cleats after this season.

Very true. It doesn't change my general opinion of the guy though.

Posted by: MCx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Whatever, teabag him all you want I couldn't care less. He's a tool in my book.

I just think thet "Bret Favre" consipiricy thing is such a load of crap. There was no way in hell Brett Favre was not getting sacked by Strahan, he just didn't put up a fight. Call the guy's whole career a wash because he "spat in Gastineau's face?"

In the split second he saw someone comming to tackle him he thought "Oh here comes Michael Strahan, I should lay down so he can get the record. That will benefit my career sooooooo much." Brett Favre would take a chance on tarnishing his whole career by laying down so someone's (who's not even on his team) name would appear in a record book? That's silly.

Someone that knows about football should also know that Favre doesn't just "toss balls up for grabs and hope that someone catches it." Sure he throws some questionable balls, but he has a better chance of making a first down by throwing that ball to a spot that gives his reciver a chance to make a play, than he does by taking the sack. It's not Favre's fault that the team around him sucks. I would bet alot-o-dough that if Rodgers were to have started this year, that team would be 4-11 right now not even remotely thinking about the playoffs.

Sack record or not, Brett Favre is in the top 5 greatest of all time at his position.

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Sack record or not, Brett Favre is in the top 5 greatest of all time at his position.

I concur.

Posted by: goandykid

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

I concur.

I'd take him number 2 after Montana. I like a ballsy qb w/ as much passion for the sport than anyone who's ever picked up a football. Maybe not the absolutely best arm or accuracy ever, but a leader and a scrapper.

Posted by: the nut

That's not the way it happened.

4th quarter Packers leading 34-25. Favre walks up to Strahan before the play and says something to him. Favre goes into huddle and calls a run play to the tailback. Favre comes to the line and runs a naked bootleg to Strahan's side. Bubba Franks is lined up on Strahan and down blocks on the inside linebacker allowing Strahan by, since the it was a designed handoff to the left. The fullback blocks the 3 gap to the left. In other words the right end was not designed to be blocked on a bootleg to the right?????? Favre spins and slides under Strahan for the record breaker. Half the Giants defense is smiling and patting Favre on the head.

After the game Favre state he changed the play at the line. 10 of 11 Packers claim they didn't hear the audible.

It's not a conspiracy it's a fact.

It doesn't diminish his accomplishments at all. But, he did lose a lot of fans that day, me being one of them. I don't like the fact that the line shut Strahan down after he dominated all year long, yet Favre decided to hand the record to him anyways. Not to mention Gastineau held that record for 17 years. I think that he should have earned that, and it's does tarnish the record.

Posted by: goandykid

Conspiracy alert!

Favre didnt jsut walk upto him, watch the video on youtube or something. They exchanged words as they passed each other smiling, as most NFL players do.

10 of 11 players didn't hear it, I've never heard that before, ever. Source?

Also it didn't look like a full bootleg to the right at all, more like a drop back and shift to the right, he never started running.

Having said that, I think that once he saw Strahan coming at him he decided it was best to just drop since a part of him DID want to give him the record, I don't think he went out of his way to fuck up a drive to give it to him.

Posted by: the nut

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Originally Posted by goandykid

Conspiracy alert!

Favre didnt jsut walk upto him, watch the video on youtube or something. They exchanged words as they passed each other smiling, as most NFL players do.

10 of 11 players didn't hear it, I've never heard that before, ever. Source?

Here's a quote from Franks:
The Packers' linemen wouldn't say much, either. Tight end Bubba Franks had the blocking assignment on Strahan on the play.

"That was called as a running play," Franks said. "I don't know if it was a bad snap or what. I was run blocking. I didn't know it was a pass."

Also it didn't look like a full bootleg to the right at all, more like a drop back and shift to the right, he never started running.

It couldn't have been a drop back the whole offensive line was going down field.

Having said that, I think that once he saw Strahan coming at him he decided it was best to just drop since a part of him DID want to give him the record, I don't think he went out of his way to fuck up a drive to give it to him.

He didn't fuck up the drive it was the same as if they handed to Green, as long as the clock kept running. No way in any other game, with a nine point lead and 2:42 reamining on first down does he pull that. You run the ball on at the very least first and second down, and keep the clock moving. And you certainly don't roll Brett Favre out with the game in hand, 2 minutes before the playoffs start and take the chance he takes a hit and gets injured.

Don't be ignorant!

Posted by: goandykid

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Originally Posted by the nut

Don't be ignorant!

I didn't realize Bubba counted as 10 people, he wasn't THAT bloated.

It looks like a miscommunication that resulted in a sack, and Brett knew he couldnt throw it because he had linemen downfield and knew he wasn't gonna get away from an oncoming Strahan so he submitted a split second before the sack and hit the ground...the same way qb's hit the ground when they scramble.

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Don't be ignorant!

And let's not start the jabs again

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

I didn't realize Bubba counted as 10 people, he wasn't THAT bloated.

I watched the game, I saw the interviews everyone of those offensive players said it was a run. No I can't pull up a quote from every player.

It looks like a miracle that resulted in a sack, and Brett knew he couldnt throw it because he had linemen downfield and knew he wasn't gonna get away from an oncoming Strahan so he submitted a split second before the sack and hit the ground...the same way qb's hit the ground when they scramble.

That's the point lineman, don't go down field and run block on pass plays.

Favre got killed for that for months, and the writers don't do that to him unless it's warranted, we're not talking about T.O. here. Not, to mention the consideration of an asterisk next to the sack record, and they even considered calling it a designed run and ruling it a tackle for loss.

If you can't see that the play didn't fit the situation at all, then I give up.

My bad... no more jabs.

Posted by: the nut

Meltdown

Posted by: Egoatdoor

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

I agree that i am also tired of Favre. Don't get me wrong, he had a great career and he's a hall of famer for sure but all the espn analysts and fans are sucking this guy's balls big time. He isn't that great anymore and he's only making things worse the last few years with a terrible team and throwing more interceptions than ever before. His name is always mentioned everywhere and i'm getting sick of it so he needs to seriously hang up his cleats after this season.

He's the most overrated quarterback in NFL history and he should have retired after last year. He keeps hanging on ( looks like he'll be back again next year) and meanwhile, the Packers keep losing time to develop a quarterback to take over when he is finally gone. Their second stringer ( Rogers I think is his name) will probably go free agent and leave town in a year or two because he has gotten no opportunity to play and then where will the Packers be? Favre is so selfish, but I also blame the team management for not standing up to him and saying enough is enough, we need to start looking into the future.

Posted by: IainDaniel

ain't looking too good for the pack

1) NYG clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over GB**, OR
2) GB loss or tie
**N.Y. Giants clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over Green Bay if:
a) DET loses OR
b) MIN loses OR
c) any two of the following results occur: ARI loss, MIA loss, SF loss, CAR win, HOU win, TB win.
If NY Giants and Green Bay end up tied in strength of victory, then tie will be decided by best strength of schedule.

Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

ain't looking too good for the pack

Had the Giants lost last night, it would have set up a very interesting Sunday. Atlanta, Carolina and St Louis all would have had something to play for, and then they would have had to wait out the final game of the day. It's going to take a minor miracle for Green Bay to make it now.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

He's the most overrated quarterback in NFL history and he should have retired after last year. He keeps hanging on ( looks like he'll be back again next year) and meanwhile, the Packers keep losing time to develop a quarterback to take over when he is finally gone. Their second stringer ( Rogers I think is his name) will probably go free agent and leave town in a year or two because he has gotten no opportunity to play and then where will the Packers be? Favre is so selfish, but I also blame the team management for not standing up to him and saying enough is enough, we need to start looking into the future.

False IMO:

2nd all time Passing Yardage
2nd all time Passing Touchdowns
2nd all time Passing Completions
3rd all time Wins as starting QB
4th all time consecutive games started (and counting)
Won Superbowl

Posted by: Goodfella9783

Assante Samuel takes over Champ Bailey's INT lead

Posted by: Egoatdoor

Detroit beat the Cowboys. Giants clinch the playoffs. See ya next year... or the next year...or the next year.....or the next year for the Pack.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

Uh-oh Champ just tied it up with INT for TD

Posted by: BigPapaPump68

Eagles win 24-17 over Atlanta

Posted by: Egoatdoor

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Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

Eagles win 24-17 over Atlanta

The great Michael Vick. Loses to a bunch of second stringers. He IS a coach killer and Jim Mora is headed for the guillotine.

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