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I hate bench press.
Hate it. I probably couldnt press my shirt on an ironing board. |
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I came in here looking for a workout but I found myself looking at Brutus' avi
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Come on spill the beans. I would like to know. I always had a buddy who would say, yeah your bigger than me, but what will I look like in 3 years. I gurantee I will be bigger than you are now. I always said maybe, but you'll never be bigger than me in the present time. And hes not. Though he has a massive deadlift, I have him killed measurments. He deads about 525. His bench is only around 280! Weighs about 200lbs. Squats about 400. All this at about 9% bf. Now that part makes me mad, fuckin guy and his low bf. He is a mesomorph by every part of the word. Maybe a little ecto since he has such a hard time keeping bf.
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ME Bench
Bench 135x10 (2 sets) 185x6 225x3 250x1 275x1 300x1 315xfailure * didnt get the lockout on the 315. DB Press 85x10 95x10 105x9 *These are going up nicely! DB Rows 105x10 125x10 150x7 *These are killer!!!!!! These are a PR Chins bwx10 (2 sets) *Nice hard squeeze at the top Close Grip Bench 185x10 195x10 Dips bwx40 reps.....now that is an insane burn!!!! Workout time-50 minutes I am very pleased with the DB Press and my DB Rows!!! |
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Thank you everyone. I cant hardly wait to get he/she here. I have 2 girls now so a boy would be great, however it really isnt a big deal either way. I just hope he/shes healthy!
Hey Brutus why do you think that? |
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yeah, i know u from somewhere too....hmm....i recognize ur name...
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did i pm u ever?
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yes. IA's site. im Angel of Death out there. but i dont post there so often. just once in a while.
did i pm u ever? |
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I dont think so ,but it has been a while since i've been to IA. Did you follow Ironman's hit?
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no no....
i did do DC for 4 months with terriffic success but ive changed my goals and im now onto the whole 5x5 bandwagon. the only thing is ive read Mark Rippetoe's Practical Programming and it was fanastic and my routine is using the principles in that..it is still a 5x5 program, but not the conventional one.. why do u ask? |
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Damn dude lets work on it, what do you think? Ask P for some advice. I will do some brainstorming and get back to ya.
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do u have a journal i can subscribe to? it would be great to follow the training of someone of ur caliber.
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oh ok....ur probably wondering because i asked a lot of questions in the Iron Man program threads.....but no, not anymore.....i didnt want to do the program and i didnt and im fine.....
do u have a journal i can subscribe to? it would be great to follow the training of someone of ur caliber. |
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Sounds good to me Brutus. They dont look that one sided though. Try doing some heavy upright rows with DB's.
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im sorry to hear that
but i have to add here: doing upright rows is the studest thing one can do for a whole bunch of reasons which i do not have the energy to get into.... i just want to say this to anyone who is interested in upright rows: this THE most unnatural and abusive exercise for ur shoulders. if u value ur shoulders and ur health please do not do them. |
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Wow. 18 years old and you have already determined the worst move you can do? Amazing. I hope all those bodybuilders who have been doing them over the years pop in here for your wisdom and realize how much damage they have done!
(Yes, that's sarcasm. Yes, I like upright rows. No, they don't hurt my shoulder, though plenty of other things do. Those are strong words you are throwing around. You may want to temper them a bit. |
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hhmmmm....a narrow minded "grown-up" individual playing the age card on me without knowing me, huh? oh well....im thinking: should i bother responding?
no. |
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But the bottom line is there are a ton of people who know a whole lot on the subject, spending their lives on it. You shouldn't dismiss their knowledge so quickly.
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| ok i think ill respond to this. the rest uve typed to show me ur a macho guy. i dont need to bother responding to that to satisfy ur ego. |
| oh, and last i recall...even Iron Man doesnt like upright rows. he doesnt even like deadlifts being trained to failure. actually, he's right: the deadlift is the most taxing lift ever...training it to failure aint a good idea... |
| bt back to topic: i opened arnie's book and yeah: he recommends the use of upright rows....oh and yes: so does ronnie.......but i guess if i didt listen to them and if i didnt dedicate a special day each week for arms i wouldnt be a good teenager, huh? |
im the kid here......rrrriiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhttttttt.. ........| I think you proved my point. There are mixed opinions on the lift. Good for some, not for other. Looks like you're learning. |
| you can't always speak as an expert on a topic and expect to be acknowledged as such, whether you are one or not. |
im the kid here......rrrriiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhttttttt.. ........ |
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no, there are some opinions which are unanimously shared: 1.) they are not the BEST exercise for ur delts 2.) they do lead to shoulder injuries 3.) u are not supposed to go balls-out on them |
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but i have to add here: doing upright rows is the studest thing one can do for a whole bunch of reasons which i do not have the energy to get into.... i just want to say this to anyone who is interested in upright rows: this THE most unnatural and abusive exercise for ur shoulders. if u value ur shoulders and ur health please do not do them. |
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that is irrespective of age..... |
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Gah .. sorry to hear about the work situation...
But hey look at it from the positive - now not only will you have 'set' days, but if you were to pursue a job in personal training, you'd actually be doing something you love and is already a larger part of your life. Only problem would be the relocating and how your little girls would react to it.. For advice on becoming a PT I would probably PM P-funk, DaleMabry or Cowpimp.. they all could give you some good tips and advice. But what about your friend that owns that gym 45 minutes away? The one that offered you a free gym membership a while back? Would you maybe be able to set something up with him? That way you wouldn't have to worry about relocating ASAP and you wouldn't be that far from your current location and you as well as your little girls could easily keep in contact with friends.. Best wishes to Ya DoubleD. |
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On a lighter a better note, heres my DE Bench day
Speed Bench 185x2 (10 sets) DB Bench 100x6 *EASY 110x6 115x6 *Well guys these are going up and I knew once I started doing them they would no problem! Cable Rows 220x10 230x10 235x10 Pullups BWx10 BWx10 BWx10 *Nice and strict, but I was pooped after those Rows. Seated OH Press 185x6 *Very Easy!!! 205x6 PR!!! 205x6 PR!!! Skulls 125x6 135x6 135x5 *One more and I wouldve reached failure and you guys know how much I hate failure!!! Hammer Curls 55x10 55x10 55x8 *First 2 were very easy, but I fizzled out. Bent over side raises 30x10 30x10 *Both very easy, but working on form Side Lateral 45x10 Workout Time 1 hour and 20 minutes (Wouldve been shorter, but wasnt working out by myself) Overall I thought it was a massive workout. The OH Presses were amazing!!! I dont know where it came from, I guess it was all of the stress from losing my job built into that lift! Plus DB Press are going up as well. Up 10lbs from last week. Now I am trying to get back to that 365 bench I had about 3 years ago! Along with Skulls at 135 for 8-10 reps. One of these days I tell ya! |
I havent done them in months. I am walys standing or seated, but with light DBs. I dont remember my personal best. I think it might had been 205 too...
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This is westside, however I did a little more than normal. My body responds so well to volume! Although I am one of the few that it actually does. I wont hit upper again until like next Monday though. I give plenty of rest and plenty of food and I am normally fine. I do believe my chest is lagging. Hell I am DB rowing 150's for reps so I would figure I would be able to bench atleast 350, but this is just not the case.
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Do you think I need to look at em? Do you not think my routine is good enough, haha.
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Thanks DOMS, appreciate it. I am feeling it like mad right now. Hell trying to cut weight and lift those numbers is taxing enough. I think I am going to look into your program now.
Sentinel, well I figured some might think it was a workout, thats why I put into italics 1rst and second workout. |
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Thanks Brutus. I know for a fact my strength will start to go down soon. I am cutting and I have to live with the facts, everytime I cut my numbers drop, muscles are always full, by strength drops. No big deal though.
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Well I took 6 days off from work and I have gotten my diet perfect to my needs and I have done a few workouts since the last time so here they are;
First Workout ME Lower Sumo Deadlifts 135x8 155x3 175x3 205x3 255x3 285x3 325x1 355x1 385x1 415x1 435x1 455xfailed 445x1 PR *very happy here. I normally pull conventional, and I pulled more on this than on conventional! The most I got the other way was like 430. I think the other way will be stronger, but I havent done it in so very long. Lunges 100x10 100x10 100x10 100x10 Hypers bw+100'sx10 (3 sets), PR Weighted Cable Crunches 60x25 80x10 90x10 Workout Time-1 hour and 10 minutes 2nd Workout ME Upper Incline Press 135x10 155x3 175x3 205x3 225x3 245x1 265x1 275xfailed DB Press 95x10 115x6 115x6 125xfailed, had a very hard time keeping it steady. I will get this soon. Cable Rows 225x10 225x10 225x10 Chin Ups bwx10 bwx10 bwx10 *Easy Pulldowns 100x10 100x10 *Very easy, but I wanted to do it to get a stretch Close Grip Bench 225x6 235x6 245x4 PR Side Raises 35x10 35x10 35x10 BB Holds 225x45 seconds 225x50 seconds Workout Time1 hour and 35 minutes Pretty good workout, didnt start out good because my pr on incline was 285 and I only got 265. I have done more volume on 1rm simply because I took CP's advice and trying to up the volume for it. BTW-I realize this last workout was overdoing it! I let me buddy make it up since he has been wanting to for a long time so I decided to let him do it. Well now I am feeling it. I overtrained terribly! Oh well I like my numbers! |
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Whoo-hoo! You leave us for a few and come back with some crazy intense numbers! Those are two fucking great workouts!
Good decision on quitting the beer for a bit .. its sucks that alcohol can actually affect your body composition so drastically.. I'll usually limiting myself to drinking about once a month, but when I do I go full out and get shitfaced! Good to see your implementing some cardio! LOL was the tae-bo a class type thing, or did you just get a video for it? Have you given more thought about pursuing a job in personal training? Or have you decided against it? |
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Wait wait, was this in one day? Christ! I assume it was since no dates are listed.
I miss doing CG Bench. The most I ever did was, in fact, 245lbs. Never tried maxing on Incline. Ego stays on the flat bench I guess. That sumo shit. Woooooo be careful! I believe that was the lift that set off my disk. That was the only time I felt a pop in my back and I wasnt lifting as much as you, maybe 275 tops. Well, either way, after this day's workout, how long until you lift this again? |
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This is 2 different workouts. Would be crazy huh? I do incline for the ME day to try to reach my 1rm. But it was awefully tough.
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I am trying to decide what to do while cutting? I want to keep the reps low, and want to try and keep the workout to around 45 minutes. Any suggestions?
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Lower day
Squat 135x10 225x5 375x3 420x3 430x3 PR SLDL 225x3 335x3 355x3 Crossover Lunges 55x10 55x10 supersetted with Hypers bwx10 (2 sets) Workout time 35 minutes Super short workout for me, but I enjoyed the pr. Do you guys think its a big deal that my hips feel more wore out than my legs? Also decided to get away from westside for a while, since I am in the process of cutting and I really dont think they go hand and hand. |
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I think that is the type of personality we as bodybuilders and lifters have, we just don't like to do things half ass ed.
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I won't be needing them for a while.
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When I drink, I have one goal in mind, to get LOADED, not some pansy ass buzz.
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Personally I dont want a cutting program per say. Just something to keep my fresh and not feeling overtrained. Instead of 5x5 I was thinking either 3x3 or 3x5 set rep scheme. With only 3 or 4 exercises per workout.
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I have printed all those links out a few months ago, I got them at home. I am thinking 5x5 is a little to much for the cut I am on. Like I was saying 3x5 is probably a little more likely.
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i can barely do half that!
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Here the program I am going to give a go:
Monday BB Rows-2x6 Horizontal Pullups-2x6 Vertical DB Rows-2x6 Horizontal Close Grip Chins-2x6 Vertical Shrugs-2x8 Vertical Weds Incline-2x6 Horizontal Close Grip Bench-2x6 (probably will sub Db Bench for it).Horizontal Dips-1x6 Horizontal Shoulder Press-2x6 Vertical Side Raises-2x10 Vertical Bent over laterals-2x10 Vertical Friday Squats-3x6 Lunges-2x6 SLDL-3x6 Hypers-2x6 These are Lowers really.. There we have it short and simple, but all weights will be heavy as always. |
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Well come to think about it Archie I need a horizontal movement rather than a vertical one.
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hey guys I need to improve my flexibility, any ideas other than day to day stretching?
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Here the program I am going to give a go:
Monday BB Rows-2x6 May do some other type of row here Pullups-2x6 DB Rows-2x6 Close Grip Chins-2x6 Shrugs-2x8 Weds Incline-2x6 Close Grip Bench-2x6 (probably will sub Db Bench for it). Dips-1x6 Shoulder Press-2x6 Side Raises-2x10 Bent over laterals-2x10 Friday Squats-3x6 Lunges-2x6 SLDL-3x6 Hypers-2x6 There we have it short and simple, but all weights will be heavy as always. |
Actually, I want to know what the upper/lower core shit is. Seems interesting!
x 100!


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