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Posted by: Uthinkso

I'll admit I'm a coffee fan, and in process of turning over a new dietary leaf. I don't drink my coffee very potent and I use 1tbsp creamer and two packets of Splenda or Equal.

This can'
t be all bad I'm thinking, but thats why I'm here asking you all. Am I alright to stay the coffee course or maybe cut it down to only a couple days a week?

Posted by: P-funk

I don't think a cup or 2 of coffee is bad for you.

People can argue it up and down and back and forth every which way. In the end. I don't think it will kill you.

Posted by: Uthinkso

Nor did I. Sure it has the caffienne in it, which many will argue is no good for you, but its not terrible for you. There are many things worse in the morning you could drink than coffee.

Posted by: Pepper

I drink coffee (black, no Splenda or anything) all day long and I don't worry about it at all...except for the cost..my Starbucks bill is absurd.

Posted by: IainDaniel

I don't drink coffee but see no big deal with a 2-3 a day.

Posted by: El Hefe

I've actually read that drinking 2 cups of coffee daily can be beneficial. Coffee contains antioxidants, and the caffeine will help with the weight loss. Splenda and powdered creamer are sugar free so that shouldn't impact your dietary goals either.

Posted by: szandor

starbucks is one of our partners and we get as much free coffee as we want. so far, we've only had 2 casualties...

Posted by: Uthinkso

Yeah I just have my travel mug at work that I use, even though I never travel, go figure. At any rate I just have that in the morning and then drink water all day there after.

Posted by: dontsurfonmytur

i want to start dirnking coffe but it is so bitter that i cant drink it lol

Posted by: leg_press

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Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

i want to start dirnking coffe but it is so bitter that i cant drink it lol

Little tip dontsurfonmytur if you add the small ammount of salt to coffee it takes the bitterness away, im talking a few drains not a bucket full mind.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

i want to start dirnking coffe but it is so bitter that i cant drink it lol

Why would you want to start drinking Coffee? Is it the cool thing to do or something?

Posted by: microtel

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Originally Posted by Uthinkso

I'll admit I'm a coffee fan, and in process of turning over a new dietary leaf. I don't drink my coffee very potent and I use 1tbsp creamer and two packets of Splenda or Equal.

This can'
t be all bad I'm thinking, but thats why I'm here asking you all. Am I alright to stay the coffee course or maybe cut it down to only a couple days a week?

At work right now so I'll get you the report later. It says coffee/caffeine consumption can limit oxygen intake during aerobics/exercise/lifting by as much as 30%. You breathe better without it. For me personally, drinking it since I was 18, it has given me stress, hypertension, high blood pressure which I'm learning to control with clean nutrition and exercise during this withdrawal phase. I turn 48 today 1/11/07, and for me coffee sux.

I save cash w/o it too~!

Posted by: Uthinkso

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Originally Posted by microtel

Firstly happy b-day, may this be a great year for you.

Work supplied coffe so it doesn't cost me a thing. I'd love to see that article though.

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by microtel

I would love to see this study! How does it limit oxygen intake? You have lifting down there....lifting limits O2 intake (during exercise) due to the fact that it is primarily anaerobic.

Please post either the abstract, or a reference (and I will try and get the whole study).

Also, how much coffee did you drink per day? Do you know for a fact that your health problems are BECAUSE of coffee and only coffee?

Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by microtel

Caffiene has been proven to improve free fatty acid oxidation during exercise and improve endurance performance.

Posted by: dg806

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Originally Posted by Pepper

I drink coffee (black, no Splenda or anything) all day long and I don't worry about it at all...except for the cost..my Starbucks bill is absurd.

I love some of their stuff. The white chocolate mocha is good. But too much sugar to drink many and they are 4.85 a pop for a grande!

Posted by: xnorwaks

if your really that worried you can just replace your coffee with tea ! Tea is still pretty good!

Posted by: I Are Baboon

Other than water, all I need to drink is coffee and beer. Coffee beer is pretty damn good, like a nice coffee porter or stout.

Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by dg806

I love some of their stuff. The white chocolate mocha is good. But too much sugar to drink many and they are 4.85 a pop for a grande!

Go here, click on the very bottom right episode titled "Small, Medium, Large".

Posted by: dg806

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Originally Posted by DOMS

Go here, click on the very bottom right episode titled "Small, Medium, Large".

Posted by: Spud

Caffeine produces a thermogenic effect does it not?

Posted by: microtel

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Originally Posted by Uthinkso

Taken from RoadBikeRider

Could Caffeine Be Ineffective (or Worse)?

Who you gonna believe? For decades, caffeine has been touted as a legal performance enhancer and used by countless athletes.

Now comes a study that says caffeine may impair peak heart function.

As reported in the Jan. 17 [2006] issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 18 young, healthy volunteers were tested on stationary bikes after taking the caffeine equivalent (200 mg) of two cups of coffee.

Result: The caffeine dose did not affect blood flow within the heart while the participants were at rest. However, blood-flow measurements taken immediately after exercise were 22% lower. And they were 39% lower in participants that were tested in a chamber that simulated high altitude.

Explained Philipp A. Kaufmann, MD, one of the researchers, "Whenever we do a physical exercise, myocardial blood flow has to increase in order to match the increased need of oxygen. We found that caffeine may adversely affect this mechanism. It partly blunts the needed increase in flow."

He noted that the study was not designed to measure athletic performance, but the findings indicate that caffeine may be ineffective or even counterproductive for that purpose.

"We now have good evidence that, at the level of myocardial blood flow, caffeine is not a useful stimulant," Dr. Kaufmann said. "It may be a stimulant at the cerebral level in terms of being more awake and alert, which may subjectively give the feeling of having better physical performance. But I now would not recommend that any athlete drink caffeine before sports. It may not be a physical stimulant, and may even adversely affect physical performance."

Dr. Kaufmann added that the study raises special concerns for people with heart disease. "Any advice would be based on results of healthy volunteers and would be a bit speculative. Nevertheless, my advice [for those with coronary artery disease] would be: Do not drink coffee before doing physical activities."

Danny Muehlschlegel, M.D.
Chief Resident, Department of Anesthesia
Shands Hospital, University of Florida
P.O. Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610
jmuehlschlegel@anest.ufl.edu

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Well, anyway there's the article as promised. Hope it helps, or broadens understanding and discussion.

Posted by: P-funk

do you have that actual study? I have read the abstract (I don't have access to that journal though). Something is strange with the study though....the subjects were tested on a supine bicycle (like lying down?? huh?) and then there is a part to the study were they tested the people in hypoxic conditions (at altitude).

Posted by: fufu

I have heard it impairs circulation in the heart wall, but still imrpoves cardiovascular performance.

Posted by: Little Wing

i just bought a moka pot n i like it. i mix the espresso with a little milk n finally get to use my collection of pretty china tea cups.

Posted by: womanfitinfo

There are pros and cons to everthing, but the coffee debate is a lesser evil. It's argued that caffeine contributes to weight loss by boosting endurance adn prolonging fatigue. The other side recommends you stay away from it because it could cause rapid heart beats and high blood pressure. That being said, coffee is beneficial but do not drink it pre or post workout. It is also recommended that you drink to 2 cups of water for every cup of coffee, because it is a diuretic. P.S no cream or sugar.

Posted by: squanto

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Originally Posted by womanfitinfo

There are pros and cons to everthing, but the coffee debate is a lesser evil. It's argued that caffeine contributes to weight loss by boosting endurance adn prolonging fatigue. The other side recommends you stay away from it because it could cause rapid heart beats and high blood pressure. That being said, coffee is beneficial but do not drink it pre or post workout. It is also recommended that you drink to 2 cups of water for every cup of coffee, because it is a diuretic. P.S no cream or sugar.

No cream? Why?

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by squanto

No cream? Why?

extra calories.

Posted by: womanfitinfo

1 oz of coffee cream/table cream is 6g of fat, 59 cals, 20mg of cholestoral. Not super bad, but there are better alternatives out there like powdered cream substitute. Some other types of cream are 10-18g of fat per oz.

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