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13 yr old & no appetite

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Posted by: Bama DJ

My nephew is 13 yrs old, and has to take medication which causes him to have no appetite at all. He has lost about 10 lbs and is very skinny. However, he loves chocolate milk. I was wondering if it would be ok to mix some sort of weight gain in with the milk. If so, what are some that you’d recommend?


Posted by: P-funk

what type of medication is he taking?

you need to talk to his doctor about that.


Posted by: Bama DJ

the med is Concerta, and according to his mother the dr didn't have a prob with it.


Posted by: fufu

Weight gainers use have a ton of sugar in them to fill more cals. Chocolate milk has enough sugar as it is. Maybe try some whey protein, they usually have atleast 100 cals per scoop and aren't too filling.


Posted by: Luke95

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Originally Posted by Bama DJ View Post
the med is Concerta, and according to his mother the dr didn't have a prob with it.
Concerta is a Methylphenadate..... Methylphenadate is a Central Nervous System Stimulant. It will cause cascades of CRH. It comes with the package of 'alertness'. As a result, he is actually using his body to fuel himself. Methylphenadate, like amphetamine salts are also a diuretic! The less water he is holding, the higher the levels of Cortisol he'll be having... Staying well hydrated should help a bit with the appetite.

Is he doing the 18's, 27's or the 57mg's? You may want to consider a dosage change.

The contera (as a methylphenadate) is significantly less 'harsh' than the Adderal, Adderal XR, Focalin and other amphetamine salts.

What he can do in the mean time is try to keep his cortisol levels down by antagonizing with a bit of an insulin response. He will need to force himself to eat 'small' portions of carbs through the day instead of meals. These portions should include as little fat as possible. (milk = bad)

Also... pick up some sublingual B12. That crap makes me hungry.

He should most likely try to advoid moderate to higher levels of simple carbs. With this medication, he will have an increased insulin resistance as well as a slightly more worked liver. For this reason, I would suggest staying away from the 'weight gain 2000' lmao

*One good solution would be to incorporate a workout routine that is very focused on intensity. (heavy low rep lifts for a short period [30 minutes] ) This doesn't mean enting bench pressing contents. lol. I think having to swim consequetive laps in a pool could almost have the same affect.

*on the dosage change subject, he should also try to assess wether he is getting more frequent headaches, excessive urination frequency and/or a decline in vision (this one might be really slight though.) These are all a result of the diuretic effect.

*If he is doing the 18mg, you might want to consider switching to another methylphenadate like Daytrana or Ridalin.

*Another attempt would be to go to your nearest CVS pharmacy. Walk all the way back to the CVS by the Diabetic items. Get a tube of "glucose tabs". They come in many flavors. They are basically big smarties..... but they are a good quantity of a simple carb source (with no fat) to trigger an antogonistic release of Insulin. One or two every three hours should be helpful. The sucess of this method depends more on ethnicity though.


Posted by: Little Wing

you might want to take a look at strattera. my son eats well on it and has none of the other side effects he had with the stimulant drugs.


Posted by: Little Wing

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Originally Posted by Luke95 View Post
Concerta is a Methylphenadate..... Methylphenadate is a Central Nervous System Stimulant. It will cause cascades of CRH. It comes with the package of 'alertness'. As a result, he is actually using his body to fuel himself. Methylphenadate, like amphetamine salts are also a diuretic! The less water he is holding, the higher the levels of Cortisol he'll be having... Staying well hydrated should help a bit with the appetite.

Is he doing the 18's, 27's or the 57mg's? You may want to consider a dosage change.

The contera (as a methylphenadate) is significantly less 'harsh' than the Adderal, Adderal XR, Focalin and other amphetamine salts.

What he can do in the mean time is try to keep his cortisol levels down by antagonizing with a bit of an insulin response. He will need to force himself to eat 'small' portions of carbs through the day instead of meals. These portions should include as little fat as possible.

Also... pick up some sublingual B12. That crap makes me hungry.

He should most likely try to advoid moderate to higher levels of simple carbs. With this medication, he will have an increased insulin resistance as well as a slightly more worked liver.

*on the dosage change subject, he should also try to asses wether he is getting more frequent headaches.... and or a decline in vision (this one might be really slight though.) This is also a result of the dehydration.

*If he is doing the 18mg, you might want to consider switching to another methylphenadate like Daytrana or Ridalin.

hi .


Posted by: Luke95

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Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
hi .
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I guess it's also important to note that increasing insulin sensitivity may vary well lower the performance of the drug. This is why I am suggesting looking at dosage and possibly switching medications.


Posted by: Bama DJ

Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated.


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