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2007 NFL Draft Thread

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Posted by: the nut

Predictions, rankings, declarations, etc.

Posted by: Pepper

Calvin Johnson will go first.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Be interesting to see what happens with Troy Smith after the performance last night.

Posted by: Pepper

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Be interesting to see what happens with Troy Smith after the performance last night.

I don't think Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or anyone could have done anthing with Florida last night...the boys up front got beat down bad by Florida's D-line.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah but Troy Smith already has some knocks against him...Size, throwing.

So in the game of games, gotta open some eyes.

Posted by: the nut

Current Draft Order

1/8/07

* Picks 3 and 4 will be determined by a coin flip.

1. Oakland Raiders
2. Detroit Lions
3/4. Cleveland Browns
3/4. Tampa Bay Bucs
5. Arizona Cardinals
6. Washington Redskins
7. Minnesota Vikings
8. Houston Texans
9. Miami Dolphins
10. Atlanta Falcons
11. San Francisco 49ers
12. Buffalo Bills
13. St. Louis Rams
14. Carolina Panthers
15. Pittsburgh Steelers
16. Green Bay Packers
17. Jacksonville Jaguars
18. Cincinnati Bengals
19. Tennessee Titans
20. New York Giants
21. Denver Broncos
22. Dallas Cowboys
23. Kansas City Chiefs

TBD playoffs
24. New England Patriots (from Seattle)
25. New Orleans Saints
26. New York Jets
27. Philadelphia Eagles
28. New England Patriots
29. Indianapolis Colts
30. Baltimore Ravens
31. Chicago Bears
32. San Diego Chargers

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper

I don't think Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or anyone could have done anthing with Florida last night...the boys up front got beat down bad by Florida's D-line.

Welcome to Brady Quinn's life Troy Smith!

Posted by: the nut

http://www.footballsfuture.com/

Top 50 Overall

1. Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech, Jr.
2. Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma Jr.
3. Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
4. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
5. Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
6. Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal, Jr.
7. Alan Branch, DT, Michigan, Jr.
8. Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC, Jr.
9. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona Jr.
10. Darrelle Revis, CB, Pitt, Jr.
11. Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio St, Jr..
12. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
13. Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Laron Landry, S, LSU
15. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU, Jr.
16. Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.
17. Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.
18. Paul Pozluszny, LB, Penn St.
19. Justin Blalock, OL, Texas
20. Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville, Jr.
22. Reggie Nelson, S, Florida, Jr.
23. Frank Okam, DT, Texas, Jr.
24. LaMarr Woodley, DE, Michigan
25. Michael Griffin, S, Texas
26. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
27. Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame
28. HB Blades, LB, Pitt
29. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame
30. Arron Sears, OL, Tennessee
31. DeMarcus Tyler, DT, North Carolina St.
32. Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
33. Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
34. Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
35. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona St, Jr.
36. Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio St.
37. Tim Crowder, DE, Texas
38. Rufus Alexander, LB, Oklahoma
39. Eric Weddle, CB, Utah
40. Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn
41. Josh Beekman, OL, Boston College
42. Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee
43. Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina
44. Earl Everett, LB, Florida
45. Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan
46. Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn
47. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
48. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraksa
49. Doug Free, OT, Northern Illinois
50. Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee, Jr.

Top Ten by Position

Quarterbacks
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
Jamarcus Russell, LSU, Jr.
Brian Brohm, Louisville Jr.
Troy Smith, Ohio St.
Drew Stanton, Michigan St.
Chris Leak, Florida
Kevin Kolb, Houston
Trent Edwards, Stanford
Tyler Palko, Pitt
Jordan Palmer, UTEP

Running Backs
Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, Jr.
Marshawn Lynch, Cal, Jr.
Michael Bush, Louisville
Kenny Irons, Auburn
Tony Hunt, Penn St.
Gary Russell, Ex Minnesota, Jr.
Dwayne Wright, Fresno St. Jr
Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois
Kenneth Darby, Alabama
Germaine Race, Pittsburgh St.

Wide Receivers
Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech, Jr.
Dwayne Jarrett, USC, Jr.
Ted Ginn Jr, Ohio St, Jr.
Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame
Dwayne Bowe, LSU
Robert Meachem, Tennessee, Jr.
Jason Hill, Washington St.
Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
Steve Smith, USC
Ryne Robinson, Miami(OH)

Tight Ends
Zach Miller, Arizona St. Jr.
Greg Olsen, Miami, Jr.
Joe Newton, Oregon St.
Matt Spaeth, Minnesota
Matt Trannon, Michigan St.

Offensive Tackles
Joe Thomas, Wisconsin
Levi Brown, Penn St.
Joe Staley, Central Michigan
Doug Free, Northern Illinois
Ryan Harris, Notre Dame
Mike Otto, Purdue
James Marten, Boston College
Stephen Heyer, Maryland
Chris Denman, Fresno St.
Corey Hilliard, Oklahoma St.

Guard
Justin Blalock, Texas
Arron Sears, Tennessee
Josh Beekman, Boston College
Ben Grubbs, Auburn
Manuel Ramirez, Texas Tech
Mike Jones, Iowa
Tim Duckworth, Auburn
Brian Daniels, Colorado
Samson Satele, Hawaii
Kasey Studdard, Texas

Center
Doug Datish, Ohio St.
Ryan Kalil, USC
Kyle Young, Fresno St.
Leroy Harris, North Carolina St.
Dan Mozes, West Virginia

Defensive End
Gaines Adams, Clemson
Quentin Moses, Georgia
LaMarr Woodley, Michigan
Victor Abiamiri, Notre Dame
Tim Crowder, Texas
Ray McDonald, Florida
Adam Carriker, Nebraska
Anthony Spencer, Purdue
Mkristo Bruce, Washington St.
Louis Holmes, Arizona, Jr.

Defensive Tackle
Alan Branch, Michigan, Jr.
Frank Okam, Texas, Jr.
Amobi Okoye, Louisville
DeMarcus Tyler, North Carolina St.
Quinn Pitcock, Ohio St.
Justin Harrell, Tennessee
Brandon Mebane, Cal
Marcus Thomas, Florida
Jay Alford, Penn St.
Derek Landri, Notre Dame

Linebacker
Pat Willis, Ole Miss
Paul Posluszny, Penn St.
H.B. Blades, Pitt
Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma
Earl Everett, Florida
Brandon Siler, Florida, Jr.
Buster Davis, Florida St.
Juwan Simpson, Alabama
Prescott Burgess, Michigan
Anthony Waters, Clemson

Cornerback
Antoine Cason, Arizona, Jr.
Darrelle Revis, Pitt, Jr.
Marcus McCauley, Fresno St.
Leon Hall, Michigan
Daymeion Hughes, Cal
Fred Bennett, South Carolina
Aaron Ross, Texas
Eric Wright, UNLV, Jr.
Travarous Bain, Hampton
Tanard Jackson, Syracuse

Safety
Laron Landry, LSU
Reggie Nelson, Florida, Jr.
Michael Griffin, Texas
Eric Weddle, Utah
Brandon Meriweather, Miami
Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech
Josh Gattis, Wake Forest
John Wendling, Wyoming
Michael Johnson, Arizona
JD Nelson, Oregon

Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Be interesting to see what happens with Troy Smith after the performance last night.

I think he went from a surefire top 10 pick, to a late 1st early second rounder at best.

Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper

I don't think Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or anyone could have done anthing with Florida last night...the boys up front got beat down bad by Florida's D-line.

Agreed.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

I think he went from a surefire top 10 pick, to a late 1st early second rounder at best.

Troy Smith was not a top ten pick on anyones board.... he was always late 1st round at best.

Posted by: P-funk

I wonder how high Teddy Ginn will go.

Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Troy Smith was not a top ten pick on anyones board.... he was always late 1st round at best.

If he had shown up last night, he would have moved up easily. Mario Williams wasn't #1 last year, yet we know what happened there....

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

I wonder how high Teddy Ginn will go.

Hopefully he goes to Cincinatti, so Johnson can help him with his celebrations!

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

If he had shown up last night, he would have moved up easily. Mario Williams wasn't #1 last year, yet we know what happened there....

I disagree, they were a heavy favorite in that game so it was expected they would beat Florida.

He's clearly behind Russell, Quinn and Brohm as far as NFL tools and size. And a lot of scouts have Stanton and Edwards in front of him as well. Brohm is likely to leave now that Petrino left Louisville... most likely pushes Smith back to a 2nd to 3rd rounder. You may see 4 Qbs taken first round, tops. And don't put it past Al Davis to make a boneheaded move pass on Russell and Quinn to get Calvin Johnson like Pepper said.

Posted by: largepkg

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Troy Smith was not a top ten pick on anyones board.... he was always late 1st round at best.

Agreed! Even with a solid game last night he wouldn't have moved up. Just look at the teams in the middle to end of the first round. How many are in need of an average QB?

Posted by: the nut

This draft is actually deep with QBs that could turn out to decent NFL careers.... I happen to think if Davis is smart, they'll take Adrian Peterson at #1 and take the best QB left on the board at their second pick, probably Smith, Stanton, Edwards, or Kolb (granted they would have to be groomed).

Posted by: P-funk

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

This draft is actually deep with QBs that could turn out to decent NFL careers.... I happen to think if Davis is smart, they'll take Adrian Peterson at #1 and take the best QB left on the board at their second pick, probably Smith, Stanton, Edwards, or Kolb (granted they would have to be groomed).

yea, Peterson is awesome. I think he may have be able to snag the Heisman had he not gotten injured.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

yea, Peterson is awesome. I think he may have be able to snag the Heisman had he not gotten injured.

He's been a stud from the second he stepped on the field as a true freshman, and worked his ass off to get back for that bowl game.

KFOR is reporting Adrian Peterson will announce he is entering the NFL draft on Wednesday

Posted by: bio-chem

how many teams think they need a high draft pick qb? 3 tops. there are a ton of teams out there with young qb's poised to be the next big thing. at least they hope so. im betting qb's fall farther than they did last year.

denver drafts a running back and reciever with their first 2 picks.

Posted by: the nut

Mel Kiper's Top Senior Prospects (revised with underclassmen comes out in 2 weeks)

1. Brady Quinn Sr. QB Notre Dame
Poised and at his best under pressure.

2. Joe Thomas Sr. OT Wisconsin
Imposing lineman with great quickness.

3. Leon Hall Sr. CB Michigan
Great anticipation and awareness in coverage.

4. Gaines Adams Sr. DE Clemson
Dominating ability with his athleticism.

5. Amobi Okoye Sr. DT Louisville
Quick, strong and gets penetration into the backfield.

6. LaRon Landry Sr. DB LSU
Leader on one of the nation's best defenses.

7. Quinn Pitcock Sr. DT Ohio St.
Great in the run game at taking up space.

8. Adam Carriker Sr. DE Nebraska
Runs unbelievably well for 300-pound DE.

9. Tony Ugoh Sr. OT Arkansas
Athletically gifted left tackle with upside.

10. Jeff Samardzija Sr. WR Notre Dame
Great hands and speed for his size.

11. DeMarcus Tyler Sr. DT NC State
Quick and powerful; great senior season.

12. Ryan Kalil Sr. C USC
Benefits from practicing against great players.

13. Dwayne Bowe Sr. WR LSU
Runs great routes and is tough in traffic.

14. Quentin Moses Sr. DE Georgia
Explosive pass rusher coming off the edge.

15. Levi Brown Sr. OT Penn St.
Reliable at protecting his QB's blind side.

16. Tim Crowder Sr. DE Texas
Consistent, reliable and has become a playmaker.

17. Marcus McCauley Sr. CB Fresno St.
Great speed (4.33 40) with solid coverage skills.

18. Anthony Spencer Sr. DE Purdue
Athleticism will make him an ideal OLB in the NFL.

19. Patrick Willis Sr. LB Mississippi
Tackling machine; great awareness on the field.

20. Turk McBride Sr. DT Tennessee
Began '06 season at DE before shifting to DT.

21. Daymeion Hughes Sr. CB Cal
Athletically gifted; eight INT this season.

22. Troy Smith Sr. QB Ohio St.
Proven winner who plays at his best in big games.

23. Ikaika Alama-Francis Sr. DE Hawaii
Consistent and holds up well against the run.

24. Craig Davis Sr. WR LSU
Took his game to another level this season.

25. LaMarr Woodley Sr. DE Michigan
Combo DE/OLB with disruptive capabilities.

Posted by: P-funk

Why do people say Quinn is "at his best" under pressure. He sucks fucking balls! He came back against Army and Navy....Big fucking deal! They shouldn't have had to come back against those teams anyway.

I think that Brady Quinn will be in good Company with Rick Mirer as a great ND QB flop in the NFL.

Posted by: the nut

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

denver drafts a running back and reciever with their first 2 picks.

They be looking for a playmeaker... they will probably end up with Bush, Irons, Samardzija, or Bowe.

I hope we take a solid CB to compliment Bailey, Darrant Williams was the crutch of their defense last year.

It also time to think some replacements at offensive line.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

Why do people say Quinn is "at his best" under pressure. He sucks fucking balls! He came back against Army and Navy....Big fucking deal! They shouldn't have had to come back against those teams anyway.

I think that Brady Quinn will be in good Company with Rick Mirer as a great ND QB flop in the NFL.

That's incorrect, they destoryed Army and a decent Navy team this year. Comebacks were aginst Michigan State, UCLA, and Georgia Tech.

I'm still waiting for somebody to name, one QB that could have led ND to win in those 3 games. NOT HAPPENING! Troy Smith found out what it's like to face the pressure that Quinn faced in almost every game. How did the Heisman Trophy winner do under constant pressure.... ENOUGH SAID!

Posted by: Pepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Mel Kiper's Top Senior Prospects (revised with underclassmen comes out in 2 weeks)

He said today that Calvin Johnson is now #1 on his list.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper

He said today that Calvin Johnson is now #1 on his list.

Will be on most lists, but it's a huge mistake to take a receiver at #1.

Posted by: the nut

Funny that the Raider's passed on Leinart and Cutler last year. Now they are in a position where had they taken one of them, they could pick up Peterson at #1 and a solid starting receiver at #33.

Posted by: goandykid

Skins will take Alan Branch. Any wolverine draft pick is fine by me. If Branch somehow goes early, I wouldnt be surprised if we grabbed Gaines Adam's or Leon Hall. Maybe even a linebacker. Prescott Burgess in the 2nd

Posted by: Pepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

Skins will take Alan Branch. Any wolverine draft pick is fine by me. If Branch somehow goes early, I wouldnt be surprised if we grabbed Gaines Adam's or Leon Hall. Maybe even a linebacker. Prescott Burgess in the 2nd

Gaines is a stud. Did you know he played 8-man football in High School and no one recruited him. Now he is an early first round pick.

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

I doubt Samardzija will make an impact in the NFL. Good guy though, hope he does.

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper

Gaines is a stud. Did you know he played 8-man football in High School and no one recruited him. Now he is an early first round pick.

YYea he is, but Andre Carter finally remembered how to play DE at the end of the NFL season. I think he closed out w/ 3 or 4 sacks in the last 2-3 games, and was shutting down hsi side. We desperately need some penetration in the middle. Thats what she said.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

I doubt Samardzija will make an impact in the NFL. Good guy though, hope he does.

I would take Jarrett and Johnson ahead of him, but he's definitely got the skills. Size, speed, strength, and hands... What do you think would be his downfall?

Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

in the same draft as williams denver drafted 2 other cornerbacks, both have been improving. williams did have 4 picks this year didnt he? besides when your opposite champ bailey (who picks off anything thrown in his half of the field) your going to be picked on quite a bit, and look like a crutch. id like to see the safety position addressed. lynch is a stud at run support yet in coverage he is not where he used to be. denver usually spends a lot of second day picks on linemen and chooses to develop them. look at tom nalen, he was a 7th round pick. although george foster needs to pick up his play (was a 1st rounder a few years ago i think) are there any more clevland browns we could steal?

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I truly believe that his performance in the Indianapolis game sent the Broncos into a downward spiral... the whole team stepped up that game, including offense and when Manning needed a big play he went to the only spot he had open, Reggie Wayne (10 catches, 138yds, 3tds). Then the fumble on the punt return vs San Diego. I was done with that dude from that moment on. No disrespect to him.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by bio-chem

in the same draft as williams denver drafted 2 other cornerbacks, both have been improving.

Paymah and Foxworth

Paymah plays a little on special teams, Foxworth started some games last year, and got a lot of run this year, but he's not that great.

Posted by: oaktownboy

raiders need a QB badly. If Al Davis has half a brain, he will take Brady Quinn or the equivalent.

Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Paymah and Foxworth

Paymah plays a little on special teams, Foxworth started some games last year, and got a lot of run this year, but he's not that great.

it will be interesting to see what direction denver goes with the cornerback position. how high a draft pick do you think they will use on the position?

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by bio-chem

it will be interesting to see what direction denver goes with the cornerback position. how high a draft pick do you think they will use on the position?

If Revis, Cason, McCauley, or Hall are still on the board, it may be worth a 1st rounder.

Or Free Agency....

Nate Clements, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Asante Samuel UFA New England Patriots
Roc Alexander, RFA, Denver Broncos
Jordan Babineaux, RFA, Seattle Seahawks
Jason David, RFA, Indianapolis Colts
Randall Gay, RFA, New England Patriots
Nick Harper, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
David Macklin, UFA, Arizona Cardinals

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

I would take Jarrett and Johnson ahead of him, but he's definitely got the skills. Size, speed, strength, and hands... What do you think would be his downfall?

Can't beat a double, not very explosive. Not super fast off the ball, but his great hands usually make up for it. Besides, Jurevicious already has that white receiver title.

Posted by: goandykid

Asante Samuel will get some major dough, I doubt from the Patriots though. Tehy wouldnt splurge for Branch, they wont open up their wallet for Samuels. IMHO.

Posted by: the nut

Darius Walker delcared eligible today....

Underclassmen Eligible for NFL draft.... Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas JR
Antwan Applewhite DE San Diego St. JR
Jon Beason OLB Miami (FL) JR
Alan Branch DT Michigan JR
Stanley Doughty DT South Carolina JR
C.J. Gaddis CB Clemson JR
Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St. JR
Chris Henry RB Arizona JR
Chris Houston CB Arkansas JR
Dwayne Jarrett WR USC JR
Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech JR
Charles Johnson DE Georgia JR
Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss JR
Marshawn Lynch RB California JR
Robert Meachem WR Tennessee JR
Zach Miller TE Arizona St. JR
Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL) JR
Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma JR
Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh JR
Sidney Rice WR South Carolina SO
Gary Russell RB Minnesota JR
JaMarcus Russell QB L.S.U. JR
Ramonce Taylor RB Texas JR
Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida St. JR
Darius Walker RB Notre Dame JR
Danny Ware RB Georgia JR
Dwayne Wright RB Fresno St. JR
Eric Wright CB UNLV JR

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

Can't beat a double, not very explosive. Not super fast off the ball, but his great hands usually make up for it. Besides, Jurevicious already has that white receiver title.

I would agree with that. He would be a posession receiver in the NFL. He's ability to go up and get the ball made him most dangerous in the red zone, almost unstopable in college. He also broke a lot of short passes into long gains because of agility and toughness, but I think that will be limited in the NFL. Plus, he wants to play both baseball and football, so that might hurt him in the draft. The Cubs have offered him 5 million +.

Posted by: lsuguy13

I think the Raiders take JaMarcus Russel with the first pcik. Al Davis loves QB's that can throw the deep ball and Russel can throw the ball 40 yards on his ass. 60 on one knee. And throw 90 stepping into the throw.

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

Yea he is tough. Looks like a girl though. His toughness in college wont last in the NFL tho, he's too small. Let him run one across the middle against the RAvens or Bears, or have Sean Taylor come across the cover 2 to nail him deep.

Posted by: bigss75

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

I doubt Samardzija will make an impact in the NFL. Good guy though, hope he does.

Forget football, he needs to stay with baseball, he'll get paid more and last alot longer.

Posted by: goandykid

Yea, but wouldnt you rather play football? Kind of like Ted Ginn Jr. Future career or not, if I had the opportunity to go back out there during the national championship, I wouldve in a second. I'm pretty sure most people would agree w/ me.

He was walking post game.

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by lsuguy13

I think the Raiders take JaMarcus Russel with the first pcik. Al Davis loves QB's that can throw the deep ball and Russel can throw the ball 40 yards on his ass. 60 on one knee. And throw 90 stepping into the throw.

I believe it's 80-85 yards consistantly. A lot of QBs range goes down in the NFL because the bigger ball, but he has big hands, or at least his girlfriend said so.

IMO, The Raiders have to make a choice between Russell, Quinn, and Peterson, with Russell being the front runner right now. Taking Calvin Johnson, who's gonna be a stud, is not the right move.

Posted by: bigss75

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

Yea, but wouldnt you rather play football? Kind of like Ted Ginn Jr. Future career or not, if I had the opportunity to go back out there during the national championship, I wouldve in a second. I'm pretty sure most people would agree w/ me.

He was walking post game.

I like football alot more then baseball but the kind of money and length of career would keep me in baseball, plus I believe more people think he is better in baseball

Posted by: goandykid

Really? I would play football, even if it cost me 5-7 years off my playing career. I guess everyone has their own passions and gets off to diff sports. Mine is definitely football or basketball. I would love to be an NBA coach. Or a player, but I love coaching

Posted by: the nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandykid

I never seen him alligator-arm a ball once in college, and he went over the middle a lot. He takes huge shots and gets right up, ie USC and LSU. I have no reason to believe that would change in the NFL. 6'5 220 is not exactly small for an NFL receiver. I'm sure he will gain some pounds once he is in the NFL, as most players do. I think his for going up and getting the ball in the end zone

Or he could go to baseball, get juiced up, than come back to the NFL.

Posted by: the nut

I'd play in the NFL for free!

Posted by: goandykid

Quote:

Originally Posted by the nut

I'd play in the NFL for free!

Ditto. In a second.

Posted by: the nut

Updated Eligible Underclassmen

Jon Abbate ILB Wake Forest JR
Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas JR
Antwan Applewhite DE San Diego St. JR
Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall JR
Jon Beason OLB Miami (FL) JR
Alan Branch DT Michigan JR
Colt Brennan QB Hawaii JR
Stanley Doughty DT South Carolina JR
C.J. Gaddis CB Clemson JR
Ted Ginn, Jr. WR Ohio St. JR
Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St. JR
Chris Henry RB Arizona JR
Chris Houston CB Arkansas JR
Dwayne Jarrett WR USC JR
Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech JR
Charles Johnson DE Georgia JR
Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss JR
Marshawn Lynch RB California JR
Robert Meachem WR Tennessee JR
Zach Miller TE Arizona St. JR
Jarvis Moss DE Florida JR
Reggie Nelson S Florida JR
Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL) JR
Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma JR
Antonio Pittman RB Ohio St. JR
Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh JR
Sidney Rice WR South Carolina SO
Gary Russell RB Minnesota JR
JaMarcus Russell QB L.S.U. JR
Brandon Siler ILB Florida JR
Ryan Smith CB Florida JR
Ramonce Taylor RB Texas JR
Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida St. JR
Darius Walker RB Notre Dame JR
Danny Ware RB Georgia JR
Dwayne Wright RB Fresno St. JR
Eric Wright CB UNLV JR

Posted by: the nut

I was surprised to see Brian Brohm stayed, with the coaching change. Good for him.

I actually spent a lot of time with Colt Brennan at Walter Camp this weekend, and he said he had no idea what he was gonna do (they had to declare by this morning, but he gets 72 hours to change his mind). He said the NFL would have been an easy choice if he didn't play in Hawaii.

What an awesome guy. Talked to anyone who came up to him, hope he does well in the N.

Posted by: the nut

Mel Kiper's Big Board

Player Class Pos. School Stock
1. Calvin Johnson Jr. WR Georgia Tech
Hard worker and team oriented
2. Joe Thomas Sr. OT Wisconsin
Imposing lineman with great quickness.
3. Brady Quinn Sr. QB Notre Dame
Poised and at his best under pressure.
4. JaMarcus Russell Jr. QB LSU
Big, strong with a powerful arm
5. Adrian Peterson Jr. RB Oklahoma
Durability is a concern
6. Jamaal Anderson Jr. DE Arkansas
Gifted athlete and a complete player
7. Reggie Nelson Jr. S Florida
Can hit like a safety and cover like a CB
8. Alan Branch Jr. DT Michigan
A space-eater along the interior.
9. Ted Ginn Jr. Jr. WR Ohio State
Takes a backseat to no one in speed
10. Gaines Adams Sr. DE Clemson
Dominating ability with his athleticism.
11. Leon Hall Sr. CB Michigan
Great anticipation and awareness in coverage.
12. LaRon Landry Sr. DB LSU
Leader on one of the nation's best defenses.
13. Amobi Okoye Sr. DT Louisville
Quick, strong and gets penetration into the backfield.
14. Jeff Samardzija Sr. WR Notre Dame
Great hands and speed for his size.
15. Dwayne Jarrett Jr. WR USC
Can create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks.
16. Robert Meachem Jr. WR Tennessee
Could elevate with a fast time at the combine.
17. Tony Ugoh Sr. OT Arkansas
Athletically gifted left tackle with upside.
18. Charles Johnson Jr. DE Georgia
Workout numbers should be eye catching.
19. Marshawn Lynch Jr. RB California
Complete big back
20. Levi Brown Sr. OT Penn St.
Reliable at protecting his QB's blind side.
21. Jarvis Moss Jr. DE Florida
Speed rusher who is excellent in pursuit
22. Sidney Rice Jr. WR South Carolina
Above average hands and nice burst.
23. Ryan Kalil Sr. C USC
Benefits from practicing against great players.
24. Lawrence Timmons Jr. LB Florida State
Production and consistency are what jump out.
25. Chris Houston Jr. CB Arkansas
Extremely confident cover man

Posted by: the nut

Cubs, Samardzija agree to $10 million, 5-year deal
Jan. 19, 2007
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

CHICAGO -- Jeff Samardzija decided to give up football and stay with baseball.

The former Notre Dame receiver, projected as a first-round pick in the NFL draft this April, agreed Friday to a $10 million, five-year contract to pitch for the Chicago Cubs.

"Baseball is my first love. I played it my whole life," Samardzija said.

Samardzija, 21 year-old right-hander, was the Cubs' fifth-round pick in last year's amateur draft and made seven starts for their Class A teams at Boise and Peoria last summer, posting a 2.70 ERA.

He returned to Notre Dame and helped the Irish make the Sugar Bowl, catching 78 passes for 1,017 yards. He also played baseball during his career at Notre Dame

His deal includes a $2.5 million signing bonus and the Cubs hold options for a sixth and seventh seasons in 2012 and 2013. If the options are exercised, the deal would be worth $16.5 million over seven years.

Samardzija said there would be no returning to football, even though he's headed for a stint in the minor leagues, probably starting at Class A Daytona after spring training. The deal also includes a no-trade clause.

"He has offered at any time in the five-year period to give the (signing bonus) money back. He wanted to make everything clear that there wasn't any turning back," Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said.

Samardzija's fastball was clocked at 97 mph last summer and Hendry said the Cubs project him one day to a be "high end starter."

Samardzija, 21-6 in 50 college baseball games, said he spent 10 to 12 hours a day studying weighing the decision on which sport to pursue.

He said Irish coach Charlie Weis was supportive when he told him he was turning to baseball.

"He was excited. he wished me the best and he asked for Cubs tickets," Samardzija said.

Posted by: JOHNYORK

hopefully the jets get jarvis

Posted by: the nut

Some notes on combine:

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Day 5

Posted by: ReproMan

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Some notes on combine:

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Day 5

Wow. Calvin Johnson 4.4 40yds @ 240lbs. That's sick.

Posted by: the nut

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

Wow. Calvin Johnson 4.4 40yds @ 240lbs. That's sick.

I met him at Walter Camp, he is a monster. He's also a dickhead!

Posted by: LSUTyler21

GEAUX LaRon Landry!!

Posted by: goandykid

The skins are either going to draft ALan Branch (hopefully, go blue, and we need a DT the msot) or Gaines Adams, depending on who the Cardinals draft. Whichever one they dont take, we take.

Also, expect us to buy one or multiple of the following: Dre Bly, Fred SMOOOOOT, Nate Clements, or the LB London Fletcher.

Posted by: the nut

Day 6

Posted by: the nut

Uncertainty clouds Quinn's draft status

By Vic Carucci
National Editor, NFL.com

INDIANAPOLIS (Feb. 24, 2007) -- Brady Quinn might not want to acknowledge as much publicly, but he has much more to prove than any player at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Quinn once found himself as the likely top pick of April's draft. He now finds himself surrounded by uncertainty over just how high -- or low -- he will be selected in the first round.

Quinn will tell you that he doesn't read what anyone has to write or listen to what anyone has to say about his draft stock. He also will tell you that he doesn't quite understand why anyone would write or say that he has lost ground since the fall, when he began his senior season at Notre Dame as the presumptive No. 1 overall choice.

"For those people who have said that and what's been echoed to me, it's kind of hard for a guy to slip when we haven't done anything," Quinn said. "I didn't play a game for the past couple of months. It's funny to kind of sit back and hear some of that and you're thinking, 'Man, did I not like lift today? Did somebody see me in the weight room miss a rep?'

"I'm kind of confused."

He actually shouldn't be.

There are fairly solid reasons why Quinn no longer looks as if he will be the top pick and, in fact, could slip toward the bottom of the top 10 ... if not much lower.

One is JaMarcus Russell. Russell is the quarterback who played far better than Quinn in leading LSU to a resounding triumph over Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl. Russell is bigger, stronger and has one of the most powerful throwing arms that NFL coaches and player-personnel evaluators have ever seen. By all early indications, the Oakland Raiders are planning to draft him with the No. 1 choice.

Another reason Quinn appears to have slipped is that he did not play particularly well in the Fighting Irish's biggest games. He never led Notre Dame to a bowl victory.

Still another negative for Quinn is that he is not especially accurate on his throws beyond 20 yards. His longer passes don't consistently have much zip and too often miss their mark. On the other hand, Russell's deep ball travels like a laser and usually winds up in the right place.

Where will Quinn land in the draft? No one seems to have the slightest clue at this stage.

It doesn't seem as if the Detroit Lions, who own the second pick, want him, even though they have reasons to be dissatisfied with quarterback Jon Kitna. The Lions have other pressing needs on both sides of the ball, and it would probably make the most sense for them to go with Joe Thomas, the standout offensive tackle from Wisconsin.

The Cleveland Browns won a coin toss with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and will pick third while the Bucs pick fourth. The Browns could select Quinn, an Ohio native who would love to play for them, but they might not be ready to give up on their young starter, Charlie Frye. They also figure to prefer Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson. The Bucs also have a young quarterback in Chris Simms. They'll probably make Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson the fourth pick.

The next two teams that could be in the market for a quarterback are Minnesota, at No. 7, and Miami, at No. 9. If Quinn were to somehow get past the Dolphins, he could conceivably fall all the way down to Kansas City, at No. 23.

That would be a severe blow to a prospect who not so long ago seemed on the fast track to elite NFL status. Quinn seemed to have so much more going for him than any other collegiate quarterback, beginning with his coach, Charlie Weis. As the offensive coordinator for the Patriots, Weis helped develop Tom Brady from a sixth-round draft choice to a two-time Super Bowl Most Valuable Player. As the head coach of Notre Dame, he helped make Quinn a prolific passer while operating the same scheme -- which emphasized spread formations and quick, short passing -- that Weis employed so successfully in the NFL.

"There's not one other player that's had the kind of coaching that I've had the past couple of years," Quinn said. "There's not one other player that's done what I've done the past couple of years. You've seen the progress, the numbers and everything we've done at Notre Dame. And I feel that I am the best leader for a team that needs someone to step in and fulfill that job."

Still, Quinn isn't getting much feel for his professional future at the Combine. None of the conversations he has had with coaches, general managers, or scouts here have led him to believe that he is at the top of any team's wish list.

"I have no idea at this point," he said. "The draft is a funny thing. I was just talking to one of the (Broncos') scouts and he was saying they didn't really talk to (former Vanderbilt quarterback) Jay Cutler before and they ended up drafting him. That's who they wanted, but they didn't even interview him. So you really have to be open to every team and take every chance you have to talk to every team and make sure you just make a good first impression."

Quinn is polished and well spoken, so the talking part shouldn't be any problem. He also will have an easy time displaying the considerable knowledge he gained from Weis about what it takes to succeed as an NFL quarterback and how to execute an NFL offense.

Where Quinn might have hurt himself, however, is with his refusal to participate in Combine drills. Quinn won't throw or run for NFL team representatives until his March 4 Pro Day at Notre Dame. That has led to speculation that he is concerned about his ability to put on an impressive-enough show to boost his stature, and, in some circles, it has led to questions about his competitive desire. Russell isn't doing any drills here, either, but he seemingly has much more to lose with a poor showing.

Quinn needs to seize any opportunity he has help his cause, and the Combine is a significant one.

It could be argued that Russell has benefited far too greatly and that Quinn has suffered far too much from a single game -- the Sugar Bowl. Yet, for different reasons, it left a lasting impression because it was a last impression.

"We didn't do enough to get a win," he said. "And any time that's how you end your career, that's how you end your last game going into the NFL, of course people are going to harp on that. That's what everyone can think about and write about. That's their last memory."

It's up to Quinn to start creating some new memories.

Posted by: NordicNacho

bump Who are the raiders going to pick? can't wait

Posted by: NordicNacho

not russell this blows they should of traded down for thomas

Posted by: ReproMan

Brady is still on the board into double digits...

Posted by: NordicNacho

he is going to be a good qb better then russell

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by goandykid

The skins are either going to draft ALan Branch (hopefully, go blue, and we need a DT the msot) or Gaines Adams, depending on who the Cardinals draft. Whichever one they dont take, we take.

Also, expect us to buy one or multiple of the following: Dre Bly, Fred SMOOOOOT, Nate Clements, or the LB London Fletcher.

how did those predictions work out for you?

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by NordicNacho

he is going to be a good qb better then russell

absolutely. and he gets the benifit of not going to the owrst team in all of football the last few years

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

Brady is still on the board into double digits...

How does Brady backing up Brady sound?

Posted by: ReproMan

Posted by: Goodfella9783

WTF do these little shit Packer fans know? I can't stand the booing. Like the Packers have a prayer anyhow.

Posted by: danny81

LMFAO i was watching this at the shop and brady still isnt drafted. lmao

Posted by: NordicNacho

you guys watching espn it looks like steve young has had plastic surgery. weird

Posted by: bio-chem

so does anyone think brady could fall to the second round?

Posted by: NordicNacho

quinn is going to dallas

Posted by: danny81

lol browns.

Posted by: bio-chem

never mind

Posted by: bio-chem

good work by the browns

Posted by: NordicNacho

same pick though

Browns have had a great draft

Posted by: Doublebase

Eagles soon...

Posted by: bio-chem

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Eagles soon...

or in like an hour

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