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Posted by: lift4life
Test 250 (enanthate) 10ml
Deca 300 10 (ml)
Clomid 50mg (actually omnifin Mex. brand) 30 count
week 1-7
1 cc deca 1 cc test
week 7-10
1cc deca
week 11 start clomid 50mg (maybe 100mg) a day until done
Would like nolvadex but couldn't get it so this is all I have.
Any thoughts, not expecting too much just want a jump start. I know clomid isn't the best anti estrogen but will it be ok in this case (I'm leaving 3 ccs test out at the end to get my body ready for the clomid, I could add it in earlier in the cycle but just worried that I don't have enough anti estrogen if I need it). Please give me your input thanks guys.
Posted by: lift4life
My goal is to hit 185 (I'm 24 at about 170 5'10) in the next few months. I exercise at least 3 times a week, run almost every day. Mostly into being slim and fit but its time to boost up the diet and pack on a few extra. Not sure of my body fat % but its minimal (a small pinch at the waist) I'll get that checked at the gym. Thanks again guys.
Posted by: Cardinal
I take it this is your first cycle. If you don't have a solid training program and an excellent diet, the drugs won't help much. You didn't mention anything about your lifting schedule specifically? From the info you give, I am not sure you are ready?
I suggest leaving the deca out entirely. Get at least one more bottle of test 250 (10mL) and try running test only. A better idea is just to run testosterone enanthate or cypionate by itself for 10-12 weeks. Inject 250mg twice a week (like monday/thursday for example). Start your clomid about 12 days after your last shot of testosterone and run clomid for about 4 weeks. Deca makes it harder for you to recover after your cycle is over. The way you have it set up is asking for trouble in post cycle therapy. Leave the deca out and you stand a better chance at keeping your gains and having a healthy hormonal profile when it is all said and done.
One reason you may be having trouble finding nolvadex is because it is called tamoxifen citrate where most people get it as a research chemical. Just an fyi.
Posted by: lift4life
Thanks for the info.
Chest triceps Mon (bench free weight dumbbells)
Bys back Wed. Dumbbells, Cable pulley, rows
Shoulders Abs Fri. dumbbell raises, crunch, machine raises
Legs usually on a sat (not so dedicated here but working on it)
Run usually every day (mile or so)
Exercises will vary depending on soreness.
I have experimented with deca 200
and also deca 200 + dbol 10mg pills and got decent gains on both occasions. Never really with this test. What can I do to make the recovery smoother with the deca? If I ask for tamoxifen citrate maybe I can get it. My buddy got the gear from mex. He's been going there for years and does prides himself on his figure and know-how. I just don't rely on his word 100%. He also mentioned to get an hcg shot towards the end but I don't have it now. Any thoughts? Thanks again I'll wait for final word before I start anything. Also, I purchased Anabolics 05 some years ago just to get some knowledge. It doesn't really mention much info on cycles. There is one similar to that listed above but incorporating tren act. (Which was too costly for my budget) and a little much to put into my body as a beginner. Thanks sample cycle layout would be appreciated. My calorie intake is a little < 3510 consisting of tuna, egg whites, chicken, and steak mostly. I stay off starchy carbs and junk food.
Posted by: Pirate!
There are two many problems with that cycle to try to revise it. I recommend you not use steroids until you have many more weeks of research behind you.
Posted by: Mudge
To be slim and fit you most certainly don't need steroids. If you want to gain 15 pounds you need to eat it steroids or not, you should be able to get there naturally without any problem.
Finishing with deca is completely backwards.
Posted by: Cardinal
HCG may help make recovery smoother with deca. Read up on swale's protocol. Another way of doing it is to use larger doses right before post cycle therapy. That is probably what your buddy was suggesting. If you can get it before your cycle, I'd use swale's protocol.
Posted by: BigDyl
I think you can kind of cruise along for a few weeks before using HCG...
...like: weeks 1-4 no hcg.
then: weeks 5-12 hcg 2 days a week (one day before injection, and on injection day)
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