Originally Posted by zl214

i feel that back squating is a extremely dangerous movement and it hurts my lower back so much. on the other hand, front squats are so much easier to do for me. the movement is just so much more comfortable with front squats.

any thoughts on front vs back squats?

Originally Posted by LT81

They have a better carryover for anytype of training.

Originally Posted by LT81

Back squats are more beneficial for you.They have a better carryover for anytype of training.If it hurts it could be multiple of reasons,weak core(abdomonals,erectors),improper form,lack of flexibity,etcetc....find which one suits you and go from there.

Originally Posted by zl214

ohhh.... i know where the confusion is now. when i say back squat hurts my back, i mean i dont like the feeling on my back where the bar is. but that is beside the point.

Originally Posted by zl214

can someone explain why is that so?

Originally Posted by LT81

1st and foremost let me rephrase my statement back squats 1)Have more variety to them(Atg,Box squats,dyanmic work/Max effort)which then tends from an athletic standpoint a better carryover to field performance.Yeah I guess in all reality you could do them for f.squats but as a opposed to b.squats
Thats what I meant for being more beneficial.Now if anyone would like a discussion about this feel free...

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Wouldn't this depend on the movement? For example, a football lineman has to move his legs with a load on the front of his body (if he's pushing forward), not on the back.

IMO a squat is a squat is a squat - front loading vs. back loading is an issue if you have a weak core, improper spinal mechanics like forward head posture (which many people have) or shoulder problems where you can't rotate your shoulders properly to hang onto the bar. Obviously the load capacity is different as well. But in terms of whether or not one a 200lb front squat is better/worse than a 200lb back squat, I would say the difference is negligible removing all factors above. Load is load.

Originally Posted by JOHNYORK

i think of it like this tho wouldnt u wanan do the exercise that u cando more weight in b/c that means your using mroe of ure bodies full potential power??? especially in an exercise like squats.

Originally Posted by fufu

True, I think the back squat utilizes more muscles to a great extent.

Originally Posted by zl214

or is it just that the leverage is longer in back squat thus makes weight appear lighter.

the thing that confuses me is that the level of difficulty of an exercise and its effectiveness. i thought the harder the exercise is to perfrom (with the same amount of weight), the better it is.

for example, i can bench press a lot more weight on machine than using barbell, this is because barbell bench is better than machine bench even tho they are the same movement. another example would be that i can rack pull a lot more than i can DL, this suggests to me that DL is a better exercise than rack pull.

i think the same would apply to squat where because front squats are harder to perfrom, its a better movement when you use the same amount of weight.

Originally Posted by zl214

or is it just that the leverage is longer in back squat thus makes weight appear lighter.

the thing that confuses me is that the level of difficulty of an exercise and its effectiveness. i thought the harder the exercise is to perfrom (with the same amount of weight), the better it is.

for example, i can bench press a lot more weight on machine than using barbell, this is because barbell bench is better than machine bench even tho they are the same movement. another example would be that i can rack pull a lot more than i can DL, this suggests to me that DL is a better exercise than rack pull.

i think the same would apply to squat where because front squats are harder to perfrom, its a better movement when you use the same amount of weight.

Originally Posted by LT81

1st and foremost let me rephrase my statement back squats 1)Have more variety to them(Atg,Box squats,dyanmic work/Max effort)which then tends from an athletic standpoint a better carryover to field performance.Yeah I guess in all reality you could do them for f.squats but as a opposed to b.squats
Thats what I meant for being more beneficial.Now if anyone would like a discussion about this feel free...

Originally Posted by wilwn

you can do all of those with front squats except for box squats.