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Possible overreaching/ immune system destruction?

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Posted by: goob

Quick one...

Would this be classed as overreaching, or detrimental to my general health?

Sat - Total body (approx 70-80 of max, approx 8-10 reps in sets of 3 )
Sun - off
Mon - Cardio - 45 min run approx 10 min mile pace)
Tue - Total body (approx 80-90 of max, 5 x5 reps)
Wed -Cardio - 30 min run at 7 minute mile mark
Thurs - Total body (approx 60-80 of max, approx 8-12 reps in sets of 3)
Fri - Cardio - 30 minute run at 7'30" minute mile mark

Currently following this and cutting. I was just wondering if by adding cardio, it would make me more suseptible to over-reaching and/or lowering my immune system, with regards to reduced recovery time?



Posted by: Yanick

We can't answer that question without knowing where you are coming from. As well we don't know what you are doing on your training days.



Posted by: P-funk

that is a lot of work if you are dieting and in a caloric deficit though.



Posted by: SamEaston

especially for someone your age!



Posted by: danchubbz

with proper diet and rest the volume IMO opinion will not result in over-training.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
that is a lot of work if you are dieting and in a caloric deficit though.
Yes...



Posted by: goob

Ok thanks for the response gents.

Trainng days go something like this:

Sat: (3 x8)
DB pull overs
Decline Bench
Triceps pushdown
Dips
Upright Rows


Tue: (5x5 unless stated)
Squats
Lunges (10 x 3)
Leg extentions
Leg Press (8x3 sets, not 5x5)
Arnold Press
Millitary press
+Core work

Thurs: (3 x 8-12)
DB Fly's
Bench
Bent over rows
One armed rows
Lat pull downs
Seated rows

Not the greatest workout I know. But it works for me. Somewhat high volume, but I seem to be able to take a good kicking and recover fast.
So with that, and the added cardio (resulting in a 6 day program), will it be detremental to my general health? Always looking for signs of overreaching, but could it affect my immune system?



Posted by: danchubbz

not the best workout routine IMO, but your body, your decision.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by danchubbz View Post
not the best workout routine IMO, but your body, your decision.
Indeed sir. Works for me. Using the majority of listed exersices, how would you change it???



Posted by: danchubbz

I have to include the exercises listed?

I would change a lot of the program really.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by danchubbz View Post
I have to include the exercises listed?

I would change a lot of the program really.
No, feel free to suggest anything.



Posted by: danchubbz

What about a Push/Pull/Legs split

Below is a template of what u could do:

Push:

-Bench Press x 4
-Dips (WG) x 2
-BB Military Press x 3
-DB Lat Raise x 2
-CGBP X 3

Pull:

- Deadlifts x 4
- Pull Up's x 3
- B/O Row x 2
- Seated Row x 2
- BB Curls x 3

Legs:

- Squats x 4
- Power Cleans x 3
- SLDL X 3
- Good Mornings x 3

Like I said just a suggestion u can play with it if u prefer certain exercises over others.

The Rep range should also vary IMO.
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Posted by: Mango

Quote:
Originally Posted by danchubbz View Post
What about a Push/Pull/Legs split

Below is a template of what u could do:

Push:

-Bench Press x 4
-Dips (WG) x 2
-BB Military Press x 3
-DB Lat Raise x 2
-CGBP X 3

Pull:

- Deadlifts x 4
- Pull Up's x 3
- B/O Row x 2
- Seated Row x 2
- BB Curls x 3

Legs:

- Squats x 4
- Power Cleans x 3
- SLDL X 3
- Good Mornings x 3

Like I said just a suggestion u can play with it if u prefer certain exercises over others.

The Rep range should also vary IMO.
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^^^^^^Nice program, much better.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by danchubbz View Post
What about a Push/Pull/Legs split

Below is a template of what u could do:

Push:

-Bench Press x 4
-Dips (WG) x 2
-BB Military Press x 3
-DB Lat Raise x 2
-CGBP X 3

Pull:

- Deadlifts x 4
- Pull Up's x 3
- B/O Row x 2
- Seated Row x 2
- BB Curls x 3

Legs:

- Squats x 4
- Power Cleans x 3
- SLDL X 3
- Good Mornings x 3

Like I said just a suggestion u can play with it if u prefer certain exercises over others.

The Rep range should also vary IMO.
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Thanks for the suggestion, appreciated. I may just use that, starting next week.

With that, cutting and the cardio, will I be pushing it a bit?



Posted by: danchubbz

With cardio if u do it on your non lifting days and u re-fuel your body correctly and rest IMO opinion u should be fine.

I'm following a simular program at the moment and I have no feelings of over-training what so ever, feel really energetic actually!

Good luck mate.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by danchubbz View Post
With cardio if u do it on your non lifting days and u re-fuel your body correctly and rest IMO opinion u should be fine.

I'm following a simular program at the moment and I have no feelings of over-training what so ever, feel really energetic actually!

Good luck mate.
Sounds good. Thanks for the suggestions.

Almost time for a run.......



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