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So a friend of mine reccomends something called Clen, where canI find it?

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Posted by: Uthinkso

I was talking to a BB friend of mine and he said I should try some stuff called Clen to help with my weight loss. He said to stack it with caffiene and ephedrine. I can't seem to find it online. Anyone know where its sold?



Posted by: NeilPearson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clenbuterol



Posted by: zombul

www.ag-guys.com



Posted by: zombul

Also note that clen is not legal and you can't come online asking for sources but thats a board sponsor.



Posted by: nni

clen is not something to be triffled with. i suggest you start with something else.



Posted by: Prince

personally I would not stack Clen and Ephedrine.

and yes it can be purchased at www.ag-guys.com



Posted by: ABCs

Is clen safe though? I read some stuff on it but I dunno. What are your guys personal experience with the stuff?



Posted by: Uthinkso

Ah ok, yeah gonna need more info. Thanks for the links. I'm off to do some more homework on this stuff.



Posted by: nni

im pretty certain clen is not for human consumption, so it can be very dangerous if taken incorrectly.



Posted by: Uthinkso

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im pretty certain clen is not for human consumption, so it can be very dangerous if taken incorrectly.
I see that one of its more common uses in the medical field is in treatment of asthma. So I'm thinking it is safe for human consumption.



Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by ABCs View Post
Is clen safe though? I read some stuff on it but I dunno. What are your guys personal experience with the stuff?
I use it, no problems.



Posted by: BigPapaPump68

No sides besides crams. Take taurine and potassium and you will be fine.



Posted by: nni

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Originally Posted by Uthinkso View Post
I see that one of its more common uses in the medical field is in treatment of asthma. So I'm thinking it is safe for human consumption.
how retarded of me, yes i was thinking about dnp i believe. clen is essentially a more potent ephedrine, so all the risk associated with that are simply upped.



Posted by: ABCs

So if I got the liquid form off of www.ag-guys.com, what would be the recommended dose for a guy that is new to this stuff?

And would Albuterol be better for someone that is pretty responsive to thermos and the like?



Posted by: ABCs

Also, can I still take a CEE sup while on Clen or Albuterol?



Posted by: williamdox

I have just acquired some clen in pill form and have never used it before, how should I start? With one a day adding one every day till I get up to seven on day seven?



Posted by: rmcfar

start at 20 mcg a day and add another 20mcg a day till you reach about 80mcg. do that for about a week and then taper off till day 14. most people go two on one off and its probly a good idea if you are just starting out. once youve had your week off start again at 40mcg a day and ramp up till about 100-120mcg depending on what you can handle. just remember to taper off of it slowly and dont think that its going to be a miracle drug because you still need to work.



Posted by: williamdox

So once I hit 80mcg I should just stay at that for the rest of the last week?

I know it's not some miracle I just have plateaued at around 14% and no matter how clean I eat or how much cardo I do my body just needs that little nudge. What can I reasonably expect in the first 2 weeks?



Posted by: rmcfar

no you should hit 80mcg at day 3 or 4 depending on how bad your side effects are and then maintain that till day 11 and then drop it by 20 mcg a day till day 14 then take a week off. Do the same thing second time around but start higher and see if you can handle a higher dosage. your really going to have to play it by ear...so to speak.

totally depends on how good the clen is, and how you personally respond. some people lose 20 pounds in two weeks, some lose none.



Posted by: ABCs

Where would I start with the liquid clen?



Posted by: williamdox

Should I take it all at once or spread it out over the day?

Also, how would I know if it's good Clen?



Posted by: rmcfar

id take most of it right when you wake up in the morning. other then that dont take any after 4p.m or an hour before or after a workout, it's gonna fuck with your breathing. also if you didnt know this already i'll remind you that your going to NEED 3-5g of taurine everyday to deal with the sides and i'd be prepared to have some sweaty sleepless nights.

try searching the brand you have on the internet and compare pictures to see if its legit.



Posted by: rmcfar

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Originally Posted by ABCs View Post
Where would I start with the liquid clen?
did you get spray stuff or the injectible variety?



Posted by: ABCs

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Originally Posted by rmcfar View Post
did you get spray stuff or the injectible variety?
I am thinking of getting the drop liquid from www.ag-guys.com once I am done with the bottle of ephedra I got. Here it is.

How much of that should I start with and how should I take it? Under the tongue or jsut drop it down?

And is Albuterol better?



Posted by: Uthinkso

I'm still doing some reading myself. Nothing will be getting injected, period. So I'm looking at options.



Posted by: ABCs

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Originally Posted by Uthinkso View Post
I'm still doing some reading myself. Nothing will be getting injected, period. So I'm looking at options.
Same here. I am deathly affraid of needles so that is not even a thought. Seems like the ag-guys only sell liquids and the like so no biggy.



Posted by: rmcfar

yah there are other sources on the net that sell spray bottles that seem to be pretty damn straight forward. its like using a breath freshener.

if the ephedrine aint workin then why will clen? i know its beating a dead horse but if you cant lose weight with diet and cardio alone then you certainly wont lose it with some drugs.

albuterol is very similar to clen but it doesnt have the anti-catabolic effects that clen does.



Posted by: ABCs

Ephedra definitely works. I just want to venture into other areas. THanks for the info though.



Posted by: Uthinkso

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Originally Posted by rmcfar View Post
if the ephedrine aint workin then why will clen? i know its beating a dead horse but if you cant lose weight with diet and cardio alone then you certainly wont lose it with some drugs.

I am losing weight with simply diet and a good workout program, but I have a goal in mind and want to make sure I get there. So my friend reccomended Clen to me. That is why I started this thread.

I've done a weeks worth of research and my opinion is that, my body is not in physically good enough shape to use clen. Though I would like to give it a try down the road, perhaps to shed that last 10lb that I'm working on.

For now I'll stick with diet and excercise program.



Posted by: Double D

I have always wondered this. If clen is illegal or things like nolva, etc, then how is it sold off the internet? If you are caught whenever it comes to your house are you in trouble with it? I would guess yes?



Posted by: rmcfar

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
I have always wondered this. If clen is illegal or things like nolva, etc, then how is it sold off the internet? If you are caught whenever it comes to your house are you in trouble with it? I would guess yes?

i have absolutely no idea and ive always kind of wondered that myself. its like placing an order for a few grams of coccaine over the internet and then just waiting for the police to arrive. can someone please elaborate as much as they can on this?



Posted by: ABCs

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Originally Posted by Uthinkso View Post
I've done a weeks worth of research and my opinion is that, my body is not in physically good enough shape to use clen. Though I would like to give it a try down the road, perhaps to shed that last 10lb that I'm working on.

For now I'll stick with diet and excercise program.
Same thing here. Not at that point in my program yet to be using this. I will be venturing into different areas once I get to that level.



Posted by: Uthinkso

Here is a link to the DEA drug scheduling list. Most of your anabolic steroids more commonly used are Schedule IV.

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/scheduling.html

According to this Clen is legal. Now is it legal to have it on or in your person without a prescription. That I don't know.



Posted by: gymaddict

ABC's, if the ephedrine is working, why switch. Mixing different drugs in your body can never be good. You are saying you want to venture with different supplements, but you have to remember, this is your body you are putting this in, your going to want it to last. Just an idea.



Posted by: ABCs

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Originally Posted by gymaddict View Post
ABC's, if the ephedrine is working, why switch. Mixing different drugs in your body can never be good. You are saying you want to venture with different supplements, but you have to remember, this is your body you are putting this in, your going to want it to last. Just an idea.
Yeah, that's why I stated above that I will NOT be trying Clen but I never rule out possibilities for future experimentation. As for now, a good diet, exercise, and alittle ephedra are doing the trizick.



Posted by: Diablo1990

What age is recommended for Clen?



Posted by: williamdox

I am looking for something to take on my 2 weeks off. Any suggestions?



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