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I don't know how to use fitday anymore. I haven't been on there in years, honestly. Right up your meals on here, it'll take a few minutes and make it easier for us to critique.
For now though, good sources of protein include, but are not limited to: -Fish; salmon, tuna, tilapia etc almost any fish is good for you but don't overdo canned tuna. -Beef;leaner cuts are the best, flank steak, skirt steak. If you google lean cuts of beef, you'll find a list of the leanest cuts. -Eggs/Egg whites;watch the fat content of the yolks, i typically eat 15-20g of fat/meal so if i'm getting a lot of fat from other sources i'll eat only the whites. i count each yolk as 5g of fat. -Chicken; i sometimes like to switch it up to chicken thighs, or ground chicken when i get bored of breasts. Some will say stick to breasts but i sometimes a)don't have breasts in the freezer and b)don't feel like eating breasts. -Turkey; Breast or ground, its a good, lean meat. -Whey/Casein; I've recently implemented Muscle Milk into my diet and love it. Not only does it taste great but it is not purely whey protein, has some carbs and fat as well so its a good shake for someone on the run that needs to eat something that will satiate for a while. -Cottage Cheese; great before bed. |
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Here is the link to my fitday.com log http://fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp and my user name there is ndagostino if you an look it up that way.
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Holy $hit! That's 73g of fat and 824 calories! WTF!?
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Your cals are ridiculously low, I think I have told you that before.
Your meal choices still need work ie. Pizza Almonds are great but a serving is about 18 pcs. Where are the fibrous Veggies? no carrots don't count. |
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yes pizza sucks....yeah the options for serving size on fitday kind of scuks. I had almonds in a dixie cup which I feel is more like a 1/2 cup size.
Fibrous veggies that is 5pm and 8pm typically. Low cals? Here is where I struggle understanding that, and yes I've read the stickies. According to fit day, given the type of work I do I will burn 3800 calories on a normal day. Now if I'm eating 2000-2500 calories a day I have created a defecit of roughly 1300 calories. Is the idea to have a defecit but only a small one like 500 calories? |
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Post your meal by meal diet for the day with the Cals and macros.
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Ok I will have to do that later I am at work now.
For example breakfast was just a bowl of plain oatmeal, 3 egg whites, and a 8oz cup of green tea. Comes in at 223 calories, 31g carbs, 18g protein, and 3g fat. I tried different combinations to keep fat down and get the protein up and I was striking out. Thats what one of my other threads is about. For 10am I have a 8oz chicken breast and an apple. Lunch is two 8oz chicken breast and chopped brocolli (2 cups). 3:00 Yogurt and apple I just don't see how isn gods creation it is possible to eat 50g of protein with every meal, and then if I am how is that going to help me lose weight? I just wish I could wrap my mind around this, so I didn't seem like such a pest and could just get something figured out. I've already lost 20lb so I know what I am doing now is far better than what the way I was living. |
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I think your on the right track. Trying is the best way to get there.
Why should you eat 50g of protein a meal though? |
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This is information I was given. That the ideal meal is 50g protein, 40g carbs, 10g fat.
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This is information I was given. That the ideal meal is 50g protein, 40g carbs, 10g fat.
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...breakfast was a bowl of plain oatmeal, 3 egg whites, and a 8oz cup of green tea. Comes in at 223 calories, 31g carbs, 18g protein, and 3g fat. I tried different combinations to keep fat down and get the protein up and I was striking out.
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...Lunch is two 8oz chicken breast and chopped brocolli (2 cups).
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TWO 8oz chicken breasts! Jeez! That's a lot of chicken! 16oz of chicken with 2cups of broccoli is 820cal with 77% protein, 4%carbs and 20%fat (5g saturated). That doesn't strike me as a very balanced meal. Plus, it's huge! Try 3oz chicken, 2cups of broccoli and 1 medium-sized baked sweetpotato. That's 361cal, 46% protein: 42%carbs & 12%fat. Much better!|
Don't try to make up for screwing up earlier in the day. Just continue on with the schedule
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True.
If you miss a meal, that's it, you missed it. DOn't eat two meals on your next meal, just try not to miss any more and work at organizing/ precooking meals. |
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Ok good to know, I'm assuming the large meals slow my metablosim?
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I'm not sure, but it's bloaty and it just can't be utilized into your muscles so it's kinda pointless.
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, forgot to do it last night. I will tonight for sure.
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Thats honestly the hardest part I can't seem to eat over 2000 calories, and yet my portions on bordering on being two big. Appears to me that in six meals if I have a 8oz chicken breast chicken breast, that is 420 calories at each meal. So 2520 calories right there, but again chicken breast all day. There has to be a better and tastier way to get there. I'm looking into lean turkey cuts as well as lean beef.
Thanks for your input shape-up. |
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No problem, I did what you're doing now for about 8 months before I finally put a real commitment and plan together so I understand.
Just make sure you read EVERYTHING on foods. it has to be EXTRA LEAN. 97 or 96% fat free. Walmart has a nice selection for under 5 bucks a pack, each pack has about 4 servins, each serving is about 130c and 26g protein. perfect for half the cals. THan make about 5 egg whites and you got a mostly fat free high protien morning meal. |
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Walmart sells food???? I did not know that.
So chicken breast that are four to a pack you say...and only set you out a five spot. If it weren't for my sister in laws father being a butcher I'd look into that. Still good info to have when I'm in a pinch. Also what do you mean, you did what I'm doing? What is it that I'm doing. I'm trying to get my diet up to 2750-3000 calories and do so in a healthy manor while keeping it balance. I can get 300g of protein in six meals but the carbs and such tend to suffer. Sorry if I come off as defensive, but a few assclowns have been real dicks about this diet stuff. |
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I mean what your doing is trying, researching, and wanting to do things right whilst making a plan. I am commending you
As far as the 4pack chicken. I was talking about the extra lean ground turkey. Very good and reliable food from walmart where I live. |

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Ok sorry, my appologies. I work out by myself so I really rely on this board for advice and to be helpful. I know a good friend of mine that is a competitive body builder, and does very well. However I suspect he's into the gear a bit, and let me say I have no issues with folks that use it and think no less of him for it. He is just as good a friend to me, its just not for me is all. So I struggle to take tips from him.
That being said here is what I have eaten today including my dinner coming at 8pm, with macros too (sorry Iandaniel I told ya I'd make good on it). Breakfast 4 boiled egg whites 1 packet regular oatmeal Is this the flavoured stuff? 1 Whole wheat english muffin Ditch it. 1 tbsp peanut butter 8oz Green Tea 445 kcal/12g fat/57g carbs/30g protein Meal 2 6oz chicken breast 1 medium sized apple 398 kcal/12g fat/21g carbs/48g protein Why does the chicken have so much fat? Do you leave the skin on? Meal 3 1 cup ground turkey 1 Caesar side salad 434 kcal/28g fat/5g fat/38g protein Again what is with the fat content? Meal 4 6oz chicken breast 1 medium sized apple 2 tbsp peanut butter 588 kcal/28g fat/27g carbs/56g protein Meal 5 10oz Steak 1 cup mashed potatoe 626 kcal/19g fat/44g carbs/65g protein What time is this meal at? Get a smaller piece of meat. TOTALS 2490kcal/ 101g fat/ 154g carbs/ 239g protein Ok this is more than I've eaten calorie wise this week, and I felt strong today. Which I'm not sure can be effected by diet, and I didn't work out today either. The percentage split for the day is 40% protein, 38% fat, and 22% carbs. Ideally I'd like to flip the fat and the carbs percentage wise. So what foods and where, The chicken has more fat than I thought, but also the oatmeal has good carbs in it. |
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you need better fat sources.
your meals need to be more balanced. you have very little fruits and vegetables in your diet. Do you eat any greens at all? Like Iain said, try and be more balanced out. Or, you can look at it as 3 moderatetly sized meals, and then 2-3 snacks in between those meals of less calories. At the end of the day, just make sure you are in a calorie deficit. Is that a sugar packet of oatmeal? I would have either the oatmeal OR the whole wheat english muffin. But probably not both. |
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Ok that makes some sense. Right now I am at damn near a 2000 calorie defecit, which from what I understand is making my body think its starving so it won't burn fat. At least this is how I understand it.
basically, yea. A 2000 calorie deficit is huge! There is significant research that shows when dropping calories by that much, you metabolism will slow down greater. Look at where your maintenance calories should be and try and create a small deficit from diet and then top that deficit off with exercise. This is Quaker Oats regular oatmeal, no sugars, no flavor just plain oatmeal. great Yes as I said in the previous post I eat veggies usually at meal 2 and meal five. I just don't eat them at every meal. Also I don't eat the same exact thing every day. I try to switch it up. The goal for people was something like 3-5 servings of fruits or vegetables per day. According to the paper Healthy People 2010. They set a goal for Americans to eat 8 servings of both (combined) a day. Which is crazy, because most people can't even get the the 3. Eat greens at every meal. Peppers and/or spinach with the eggs. Small salads and/or a greens supplement like greens+. Have 2-3 pieces of fruit per day. Things like apples, grapefruits and berries are great choices. I don't mind oranges, or bananas either. Food nazi's will tell you that they have a high GI (gasp!). The main thing is, do they fit into your daily calories? Let me preface that I don't want to sound like a dick with this next statement. Everyone tells me to balance my meals, I am aware of that thats the name of the thread. Now that I've posted my diet what foods would you plug in and where. I feel I can rotate my protein source between fish, chicken, turkey, lean beef and the secondary food should be able to stay the same. If that makes any sense at all. Balancing your meals is easy. Everyone makes it into this complex thing. I will give you some tips to simplify it for you: 1) write down how many calories you need for the day 2) set your protein (1.2-1.5g per LB of BW is what I usually recommend). 3) Set the other macros up after the protein. Is the diet high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat? What works for you, etc.....i say try and find a healthy balance between both. There are camps on both sides. I think the answer lies somwhere in the middle....craete caloric deficit and eat healthy foods....amazingly simple! 4) Take the daily calories and divide them into either 5-6 even meals or place higher calories in meals 1,3,5 and slightly lower calories in your snacks, #'s 2,4, and maybe 6 if you eat that much. 5) look at your workout and arrange your protein and carbohydrate needs properly around there (ie nutrient timing). 7) then just do the math. Lets say you find out you need 35g of protein, 60g of carbs and 12g of fat per meal. Figure out the amount of foods that roughly fit into those numbers (doesn't have to be analy exact)...so, 5oz of chicken or turkey, 4oz of beef, a tbsp of oil and vinegar with 2 fish caps, etc... 8) add greens to your meals. 9) eat the meals. I'm just baffled that I lost so much so fast and now have started going backwards. When the diet hasn't changed one bit. Are you thinking I shocked my system and thats why the quick drop in weight. I will say that my pants are looser and I don't feel like I put on 10lb on fat, but something isn't adding up. |
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Try and shoot for 1-1.2g of protein then.
I wouldn't go with the estimated calorie burn on fitday. what does your training program look like? |
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ditch the split routine and start training your total body. Use upper and lower supersets. Drop pretty much all of the isolation stuff too. Do compound movements.
Add cardio into your off days. |
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check out the stickies in the training forum. Check out the first few entries in my blog for this month. I go through laying out a training program.
everything you have been told previously is wrong. If it were right, you would be seeing the results you desire. Make sense? I had a guy come into the gym and tell me that i was telling him things that were totally against everything he thought to be true. 4 weeks later he has seen more results than he ever had before. He can't believe it. |
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ditch the split routine and start training your total body. Use upper and lower supersets. Drop pretty much all of the isolation stuff too. Do compound movements.
Add cardio into your off days. |
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Also BigG nice work on the eight 12oz Miller Lites.
People in glass houses.... |
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Ok that makes vastly more sense. I was told by another member on here that I need 50g protein, 40g carbs, and 10g fat per meal.
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What I said was 50%protein:40%carb:10%fat, not 50g:40g:10g. I even explained that there are 9cal in 1g of fat and 4cal in 1g of carbs and protein. I also said that many people will increase fat to 20% or more, but I find fat-loss faster with lower fat intake. After-all, fat is more easily stored as fat than other food types. EFA's via capsules ensures healthy fat intake.
Stick with it Uthinkso. We're all here to help. Learn a little more every day. You'll get there. I will too, if I can ever get my alcohol intake under control! ![]() |
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