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Legal Anabolics?

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Posted by: TheStuff

Was wondering about these "legal" anabolics such as discountanabolics.com

I'm looking for possibly a new stack and might want to try something like this. I do not want to take illegal substances.

Wondering what you guys suggest to add

At the time I'm taking

Ironmaglabs: Nitro4, CEE, Max. Pump
ON 100% Whey protein

Looking for a good increase in strength and mass.

Here were some suggestions I've read in searches

SuperDrol,Phera Plex, Halodrol, and Methyl 1-D

If anyone can comment on these, that'd be great.



Posted by: zombul

I love Super Drol and it can't be the wrong way to go if your going "legal".Is thisthe stack you are referring too?If so you could probably do it a little cheaper.



Posted by: NordicNacho

the real stuff
http://www.anabolichiv.com/



Posted by: BigDyl

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Posted by: TheStuff

zombul what stack do you suggest?

I'm looking to gain size and muscle obviously.

I want to see the kind of gains when on this.



Posted by: ABCs

I am starting a 4 week Epistane cycle on monday with a 3 week tamo PCT. Epistane is getting some amazing reviews and logged results. Give it a google.



Posted by: TheStuff

What else would you stack with this Epistane?

Would I only need to take this and it will replace my CEE/Pre-workout stimulant or what would it do?

I'm looking for a stack, creatine, pre-workout stimulant to give me the max push and feel the pump, and then post workout stack if needed. Does this take care of it all or do I need to stack?

I was thinking Xceed for my CEE then I don't know what else.



Posted by: ABCs

Yeah it's fine to take creatine and a pre-workout boost sup along with Epistane.



Posted by: nsr54

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I am starting a 4 week Epistane cycle on monday with a 3 week tamo PCT. Epistane is getting some amazing reviews and logged results. Give it a google.
hey bro are you doing a log it? im very curious about it. not to mention ive heard crazy things about how it reduces gyno significantly.



Posted by: ABCs

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hey bro are you doing a log it? im very curious about it. not to mention ive heard crazy things about how it reduces gyno significantly.
Yup, I'll be starting a log as soon as I start my cycle on Monday. And I got quite a bit of gyno for it to reduce too. I'll let you know when I start the log up.



Posted by: zombul

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zombul what stack do you suggest?

I'm looking to gain size and muscle obviously.

I want to see the kind of gains when on this.
I would start with a 3wk SD cycle and you will love the results on that alone.



Posted by: nsr54

Directing "TheStuff" how long have you been training and weight lifting? just curious



Posted by: BigDyl

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I would start with a 3wk SD cycle and you will love the results on that alone.
I disagree.


The anabolics section is falling apart when ABC's and zombul are the new "authorities." No offense, but read some of Mudges or PiratefromHells threads.



Posted by: ABCs

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I disagree.


The anabolics section is falling apart when ABC's and zombul are the new "authorities." No offense, but read some of Mudges or PiratefromHells threads.
Listen to the guy who shoots needles the wrong way into his legs. He will guide you in the right direction, I promise.



Posted by: tryn2getbig

Hey ABCs, I'm currently on an M1T cycle stacked with 4-derm, how would you compare the legal stack to what I am currently on? I would like to try something a little different, legal or not, or I may just stay on this, haven't decided. Any suggestions?



Posted by: ABCs

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Hey ABCs, I'm currently on an M1T cycle stacked with 4-derm, how would you compare the legal stack to what I am currently on? I would like to try something a little different, legal or not, or I may just stay on this, haven't decided. Any suggestions?
Can't say yet. I start my Epistane cycle on Monday. I can say that I've read pretty much every log and review ever written on it and it's pretty amazing the results that people are getting and since the sides are so low, you can stack it with other major compounds without demolishing yourself. Go to www.ibeforums.com and read everything you can in the Epistane section. You'll see the light.



Posted by: BigDyl

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Listen to the guy who shoots needles the wrong way into his legs. He will guide you in the right direction, I promise.
Dude, you seriously don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

I didn't do anything wrong, almost everyone has the same response to the first injection or to high concentrations of test.


Get the fuck out of this forum loser.



Posted by: ABCs

BigDyl, I don't know why you latched on to me from the beginning, but you did. I could care less what you do OR what you say. Just stay out of my way and I'll stay out of yours... unless you insist on staying on my penis, if that's the case, alittle less teeth and alittle more tounge please.



Posted by: blueboy75

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Dude, you seriously don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

I didn't do anything wrong, almost everyone has the same response to the first injection or to high concentrations of test.


Get the fuck out of this forum loser.
Who the hell are you to tell him to get out of the forum. you aint no mod, your just a wannabe.



Posted by: TheStuff

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Directing "TheStuff" how long have you been training and weight lifting? just curious
I started lifting in around 7th/8th grade. Nothing serious, but just started getting into it. Starting freshman year is when I started dieting, routines, etc. My sophomore year of high school is when I started doing more research on the forums and everything. I've been a member here since 2001 so almost 6 years now of just browsing and checking threads to help me out.



Posted by: ABCs

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Who the hell are you to tell him to get out of the forum. you aint no mod, your just a wannabe.
JUst wanted to say two quick things. LoL to the above and I started Epistane today. I'll keep you guys posted.



Posted by: nsr54

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JUst wanted to say two quick things. LoL to the above and I started Epistane today. I'll keep you guys posted.
whats your stats right now?



Posted by: goob

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JUst wanted to say two quick things. LoL to the above and I started Epistane today. I'll keep you guys posted.
I would be cool if you started a review thread on Epistane.......



Posted by: ABCs

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I would be cool if you started a review thread on Epistane.......
Will do as soon as I get some more time. I will start it later today.



Posted by: ABCs

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whats your stats right now?
I'm a little under 200, 5'10". Not sure what my bodyfat is but it's not great.

Also, when I start a review thread, should it be in this section or in the supplements section?



Posted by: tucker01

Why are you using this when you haven't even got your diet in order?



Posted by: ABCs

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Why are you using this when you haven't even got your diet in order?
My diet is nicely in order sir.



Posted by: tucker01

MEh whatever. The choice is yours. I give up trying to help people that refuse to listen.



Posted by: ABCs

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MEh whatever. The choice is yours. I give up trying to help people that refuse to listen.
If my diet gets any cleaner, I will be eating wheat from the field and pluking my own damn chickens. What the hell would you like me to do?



Posted by: tucker01

When did that start today?

I started in your journal explaining that you were starving yourself, then your thread in the Diet section showed you were still starving yourself pretty recently, and then went on to wonder why your progress stalled. And will probably wonder why they lost a bunch of muscle mass as well.

Why waste your money when you don't even have the basics in order.

Again, there is no quick fix to being healthy.



Posted by: ABCs

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When did that start today?
Nah man, I've been eating clean for a couple months now. No offense, but I barely mention my diet so how the hell do you know what I do? I eat 1 cheat meal a day, don't drink, quit smoking, and eat VERY clean. Now Dr. Ian, is that ok?



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by ABCs View Post
Nah man, I've been eating clean for a couple months now. No offense, but I barely mention my diet so how the hell do you know what I do? I eat 1 cheat meal a day, don't drink, quit smoking, and eat VERY clean. Now Dr. Ian, is that ok?

Like I said whatever, you don't want to listen, continue on your path.

That is great that you don't drink and quit smoking. You may eat clean but you don't eat enough.



Posted by: ABCs

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Like I said whatever, you don't want to listen, continue on your path.

That is great that you don't drink and quit smoking. You may eat clean but you don't eat enough.
I eat enough. I just misscalculated my daily kcal needs. Nothing I can't fix. And no, I haven't lost much muscle at all. As a matter of fact my workouts are intense and my weights are increasing. Get your facts in order before you run around and throw that arrogant atitude at people.



Posted by: tucker01

Arrogant attitude. HAHA


What was that someone else typing in your journal and in that thread you created in the Diet section. Oh it must have been BigDyl since you have created this vision that he is out for you.



Posted by: fufu

Bigdyl knows what he is talking about. I wouldn't be so fast as to disregard his advice.



Posted by: tucker01

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Bigdyl knows what he is talking about. I wouldn't be so fast as to disregard his advice.
I have no qualms with Bigdyl. He is knowledgeable and has his own way to get things across.

I like him/her/it



Posted by: ABCs

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Arrogant attitude. HAHA


What was that someone else typing in your journal and in that thread you created in the Diet section. Oh it must have been BigDyl since you have created this vision that he is out for you.
Created a vision. HAHA

Nope, that was me typing. Typing for nice people to help me tweak my diet, not use their shitty atitude to think they are completely better than everyone. You are knowledgeable, there is no doubt about that, but the way you come across sucks.



Posted by: tucker01

I come across like this cause you didn't listen since the beginning. Then you start throwing hormonal shit into it. All you keep looking for is a quick solution. Unfortunately there isn't one.

Funny how everyone who disagrees with you must a dick, you may be a little too sensitive to be playing on the web. We all try to help each other.

I tried to point you in a better direction at the beginning, but you wanted a quick fix. Then you come back wondering why progress has stalled. I try to help here as best as I can, but when people completely ignore help that was given to them, and then wonder why certain things have happened, expect an attitude.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
I have no qualms with Bigdyl. He is knowledgeable and has his own way to get things across.

I like him/her/it
I wasn't referring to you, ABC rather.

Not sure if you thought I was or not.



Posted by: fufu

I'm going to have to agree with Iain here. This is your health we are talking about.

From looking at your threads and journal I really don't think you are ready for a cycle. I am not trying to insult you, but I wouldn't jump into something like that. I'm not anti-AAS at all, but I think you starting a cycle would be a bad idea. I would wait till you have a very solid knowledge of training and nutrition until you started.

You said you are 5'10' and 200 lbs, generally you can do alot better than that naturally. I'm 5' 11'' and 195, and I don't think I am anyway near the level to start using AAS. However, this is just my opinion.



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I wasn't referring to you, ABC rather.

Not sure if you thought I was or not.

Ok I just thought I would make sure.

The only reason I threw Bigdyl's name in there, is cause there seems to be some kind of attraction between those two



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Ok I just thought I would make sure.

The only reason I threw Bigdyl's name in there, is cause there seems to be some kind of attraction between those two
There's just something magical about it...



Posted by: zombul

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Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
I disagree.


The anabolics section is falling apart when ABC's and zombul are the new "authorities." No offense, but read some of Mudges or PiratefromHells threads.
The question was about "legal anabolics "which I have alot of experience with.Halo,sd,pp I have tried about all of them on a few occasions and have a training partner or two on one at about any time.I manage a gym remeber.I get to see all the good and bad that comes from the stuff I sell.

And just for that comment no autographed Rocky 7 photo for you...



Posted by: ABCs

BigDyl is my best friend.





Posted by: TheStuff

ANYWAYS...

Back on topic here lol.

Stack I'm looking to order is

Epistane (1 to 1 1/2 month cycle)
Xceed (pre and post workout)
Whey Protein (daily/post workout)

Now I don't know what to use for PCT

One suggested Flax Oil and that should be good enough?

Any suggestions? Looking to keep the muscle/cut a little during PCT period.



Posted by: ABCs

It depends on what type of Epi cycle your going to run/ If it's a pulsing cycle then PCT can be mild, if it's a straight out 20/30/40/40 then your going to want to use something like Tamo for PCT. Check ibeforums.com for everything you need to know about Epistane and PCT. Your also going to want to run something like Cycle Support while on cycle.



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