Originally Posted by the nut

When is Diego gonna get a shot at one of the big three?

Originally Posted by the nut

When is Diego gonna get a shot at one of the big three?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Could this card suck more, 90% of the fighters were on TUF in the past year.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Could this card suck more, 90% of the fighters were on TUF in the past year.

Originally Posted by the nut

When is Diego gonna get a shot at one of the big three?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Could this card suck more, 90% of the fighters were on TUF in the past year.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Agreed. Sure some of the fights turn out to be great. But I ain't paying to see that shit.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Could this card suck more

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

You and I differ on this one Dale. ANY time two people come together to beat piss outta one another it's all good in my book.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Agreed. Sure some of the fights turn out to be great. But I ain't paying to see that shit.

No disrespect to the TUF guys as I am sure they were competitors being considered by Dana and the UFC prior to TUF, but there is just that stigma to being a reality TV fighter.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Number three, Mike Swick is getting a serious test from Okami. Okami has taken out a few of the guys that were in the TUF 3 house and is no joke at all. His last loss was against top 10 ranked middleweight Jake Shields, and he holds a DQ win over Anderson Silva, so we know he's faced some top opposition.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

That fight is going to be great. Swick is one of my favorite fighters. He has improved so much since the show. I want to see Franklin and Swick go at it. I hope Swick pulls this one out.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I think Franklin will have the belt again by the end of the Summer. Ballsy call I know.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I think Franklin will have the belt again by the end of the Summer. Ballsy call I know.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

And I'm with you on the Serra/GSP matchup Repro. Serra is underestimated and underappreciated. He'll give GSP a run for his money. And if it goes at least 3 rounds, we'll probably see GSP kinda gassed. Biggest test as of yet for Serra though, no question.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

I agree with you there. Franklin looks determined and will be ready for Silva this time. Silva is one scary dude though. Scary in the ring. He beat Franklin badly.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

You say that about every card the UFC puts out. Stop being so cheap. If you don't want to watch them then don't pay for them. STFU and stop being such a negative nancy. I hate you guys who don't pay for the shit then go d-load them the next day and talk about how good or bad the fights were. Damn Canucks.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

One smart dude too. Did you notice when they asked the celebs who was going to win the Sylvia/Couture fight he said without hesitation "Randy."

Originally Posted by ReproMan

What could Franklin possibly bring to the table that's different from the first fight?

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I look more towards the possibility of good matchups in determining whether a UFC will be good rather than what big names will be fighting.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I look more towards the possibility of good matchups in determining whether a UFC will be good rather than what big names will be fighting.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I agree with Iain and Dale. For PPVs, I dont want the majority of the card to be TUF contestants.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Considering Diego Sanchez is in the top 2 or 3 in the world in the welterweight division, and Serra was a UFC fighter long before he was on TUF, I think a few exceptions can be made. Not to mention if Swick wins this fight, more than likely he'll be a top 10 middleweight. I don't see a problem with it.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Mike Swick has been in the top 10 since he entered the UFC. He is now #3 behind Franklin.
http://www.topfighterstandings.com/ufc_rankings.cfm

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Not in the UFC, in the world.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Originally Posted by ReproMan

That's the first list I've ever seen him on.


LOL. Frank Trigg is #5. Right.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Exactly. How does having a few guys from the TUF show make the card any worse? They are in excellent matchups and from what I see, they will make for some good fights. You can't have Chuck Liddell and Cro-Cop fight on every card....

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

The same reason I am not going to pay $40 to watch a high school championship game/match that is competitive...the same reason I wouldn't pay $85 to watch an Arena Football game...the same reason no one watches the WNBA...inferior talent.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

You say that about every card the UFC puts out. Stop being so cheap. If you don't want to watch them then don't pay for them. STFU and stop being such a negative nancy. I hate you guys who don't pay for the shit then go d-load them the next day and talk about how good or bad the fights were. Damn Canucks.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Hey Dipshit. I pay for them when they are worth it. Don't put out shit cards and I will buy it.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I'm not saying these guys won't be good someday, they don't deserve to be on a pay-per-view card now, though.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

I hear ya, but you can't expect every fight on every card to be A list.

I think TUF 4 is a poor representation of the fighters skills who were on the show. Having the opportunity that those fighters had kinda backfired on Dana. Instead of fighting like they had nothing to lose, all of them fought like they had everything to lose, and not one of them let it all hang out. Pete Sell is a lot better than he showed on TUF 4, although he got KO'd by Scott Smith, but that was arguably the luckiest KO in the history of the UFC. Brad Imes is coming off of a long hiatus due to injury and matching him up against another cowboy is an intriguing match apparently.

Of all the fighters you listed, only Serra and Swick are on the main card.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to sell you on this event, just pointing out it's not as horrible as it might seem.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I will DL the day after, but I am waiting for 70 to go out and put an effort in.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Of all the fighters you listed, only Serra and Swick are on the main card.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to sell you on this event, just pointing out it's not as horrible as it might seem.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

See, my problem is that since the GSP match will last about 3 minutes, those other fights will take up more of the show.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Disagree 100%.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

how long then?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

See, my problem is that since the GSP match will last about 3 minutes, those other fights will take up more of the show.

Originally Posted by the nut

3 minutes might be on the long side.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I was including the walk to the Octagon, and the pre-fight instructions.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

I think it will get into the championship rounds to be honest. Like I said earlier in this thread, I think Serra is severely underrated. He has gone the distance in close fights against 2 guys GSP has gone the distance with. Serra is no dummy and won't try to stand with GSP, and I don't think there is a way you can say GSP has an advantage on the ground other than the fact that his GnP is stronger than Serra's. GSP has an obvious advantage in the athleticism department, but Serra has the nod in experience. It will be entertaining at the least IMO.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

So..... How many of you picked Tim again?

Originally Posted by ReproMan

So..... How many of you picked Tim again?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I didn't pick, if I recall, you picked Tim.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I didn't pick, if I recall, you picked Tim.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

He's out powered so the ground game is not there for him, he's out gunned so the stand and bang option is no option, and his reach is a joke compared to that of Silvia ... WTF does he think he is going to do? Win with a flash KO? I don't see anything else as even remotely possible.

Hate to see someone I like not accept the clock. He can still fight ... just not at the level he would need to be able to compete at to be able to hold a belt IMHO. VS Cro Cop he'd lose, vs Rampage he'd lose ... I mean WTF is he thinkig?!?!?!?!?

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

... so did I. No way did I expect Randy to out swing Dorkboy. I thought for sure that Dork would flurry Randy into Disneyland.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

I think it will get into the championship rounds to be honest.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

You can bet Serra is going to go balls to the wall training. Out of any guy in the UFC to get their one shot (Quarry, Lutter, ect.), I think Serra really has the determination it takes and is going to press the fight like it is his shot. Dude is full of hell. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying he's going to win, but it's not going to end quick.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

No

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

8 followed by the Ultimate Fighter show premiere.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Damn that early? Thank goodness I am early out today for a change.

Who are the trainers this season?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Man, I hope Sanchez loses. Guess I'll find out Saturday, since I won't be paying for it.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Awwe don't be sad. He's gonna own.

Originally Posted by emitecaps

UFN is tonight though right?

Originally Posted by Doublebase

I'm stuck here in Richmond, Virginia filming a bike race and its snowing. Let me know how the fights go. How was fight night and TUF 5?

Originally Posted by ReproMan

I'm not surprised at all. I've been saying all along that Serra was severely underrated. We also found out tonight GSP has a weak chin.

Man, Diego was just outclassed on the feet. It went to the ground for 30 seconds and in 25 Diego managed to get Kos' back. Kos had a gameplan and executed perfectly.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I believe me and you were the only ones who gave Serra a legit shot

Originally Posted by ReproMan

True story.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Swick was clearly shaken after round 1 of his fight. Anyone else notice that? "He's too strong."

Diego lost major points in my book tonight. One of my boys told me that he has been training with Oscar De La Hoya/ODLH's trainers. I could see a little too much boxing influence in Diego's standup tonight. He was real stiff, more than half of his punches were short jabs and he didn't engage like he usually does. There's gotta be a rematch there because that wasn't Diego at all. Not aggressive at all.

Fight of the night goes to the Huerta fight. That Mexican guy he fought had me pissin myself with his little smirks after taking 5 punch combos to the jaw and then getting slammed. It doesn't even matter that he lost. He's gonna be in more good fights in the future. Don't have to say much about Huerta. He's on point as usual and will give Sherk hell.

Nice of the UFC to not replay the Cummo KO...?

Who won the Imes/Herring fight?

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Herring decision.

The funniest part about the Kos vs. Diego fight is the fact that had Kos taken it to the ground, he probably would have been submited. We did learn however that Diego has a damn solid chin. He took Koschecks best punch twice in that fight. Diego needed a loss, all the greats do.

That kid in that lightweight fight was as tough as they come.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

How did Kendall do? I can't believe GSP and Diego lost. I mean I can but WOW! Crazy.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Good call gents ... errr well almost committing yourselves to calling it anyways. At least you had the vision to see the potential . As your prize I give you these Pride fights also fought last night.

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Just downloaded the two main events and have a few comments:

1) Yeah, who was that guy in the ring who looked like St. Pierre? He was not aggressive, and got tagged and then Serra took advantage. Great fight by Serra IMO. My hat goes off to him.

2) Sanchez deserved to lose because he didn't even try to win. Koscheck puts up another snorefest but still gets the victory. Wrong strategy by Sanchez. If he had even been a little more aggressive he would have taken it, but I think he was afraid to get on the ground.

3) I'm really glad I didn't pay for it.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

It was the exact opposite IMO. He didn't want to commit to the punches, looking to capitalize on a Kos takedown attempt. I would imagine he trained to be wary of the feints and then the shoot, but Kos never shot. It went to the ground one time and Diego took his back with ease. He didn't need to shoot, he hit Diego with the biggest right hands he's ever tasted. I think Kos knew after the end of that first round he had no business being on the the ground with Diego.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Diego's fight reminded me of the Arlowski/Sylvia fight.

Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. It was exactly like that. Two dudes unsure of each other even after previously fighting in a bout together and still not ready to fully engage.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Hey Bone, all those UFC links go to is a MegaUpload ad. Am I missing somehting?

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Good point, and after watching it again, you're right. So then why wouldn't Diego's corner after seeing that tell him to get Kos on the damned ground - it's not like Koscheck knows how to submit anyone properly, he can hold you down fine...and Diego can submit people.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I HATED the way Kos acted after winning. Prolly the cockiest display Ive seen. I understand that its gotta be a rush, but there was something about seeing that and thinking "bad sportsmanship."

Originally Posted by Double D

So does Hughes get the next title fight?

And someone said Hughes was acting like a jackass during the fight. Any truth to that?

Originally Posted by Double D

So does Hughes get the next title fight?

And someone said Hughes was acting like a jackass during the fight. Any truth to that?

Originally Posted by Double D

Exactly. I think Hughes may have underestimated GSP a bit. I mean Hughes beat him pretty easily the first time, but at the time GSP was on a good roll, and continued to roll right through Hughes. I really dont think anyone saw him losing last night! Who else is in line after those 2 fuckers?

Originally Posted by Double D

If Penn would get in proper shape he could beat any of them. His training must be poor.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Diego's myspace page .. tell 'em what you think of his sportsmanship and game plan.

What a tool. That he was going to slap Kos AND that Dana was trying to get that to happen is fucking idiocy. Glad I don't pay for this.

Originally Posted by bigss75

Look at page 3 what KOS wrote to him

Apr 8, 2007 2:55 AM

Happy Easter!!!! 19-1 )) xoxo KOS

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Originally Posted by AKIRA

why do they hate each other?

Originally Posted by Dumby

I honestly felt like Big John stopped the Serra & GSP fight slightly late. I mean the last 4-5 blows were completely undefended. Which if Serra had lifted up and wasn't mounted he might have done some real damage to GSP. Either way, it was a great show of patience on Serra's part to anticipate the moves of GSP after Serra had clearly rocked him. He took his time and landed the big shots instead of swinging wildly which would allow GSP to pull him into guard and catch his wind. He played it perfect from the touch. The Kos & Diego fight was really shocking. Diego honestly looked afraid from the very start. But, Jesus Christ how about Garcia & Huerta? I mean you could tell the conditioning and skill difference as well as size and strength, but their was nothing but fight in those two. Not the best, but certainly a rememberable event for some of those fighters.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Serra and Hughes should be soon, I would think. They hate each other.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Ok now why do these guys hate each other? This hatred will be more interesting for me.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

From the TUF show. Hughes was one of the coaches.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I am the first to admit I was dead wrong on Serra, he came ready and destroyed GSP. I like Serra, he seems like a nice guy, but Buster Douglas seems to come to mind when I think of him. I don't think he would stand a chance against Hughes, but I was obviously wrong about him once. So now that Diego is out of the immediate picture, the WW division looks interesting, I never would have guessed shit would unfold like this.

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Hughes made fun of Serra while they were training together over a short time. From what I remember it was actually Serra who was very patient and finally lost his temper after Hughes goaded him into it enough. Hughes knows how to get under people's skin very well and it pays off.

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

99% of the "hate" we see between UFC fighters is manufactured by Dana White. If he can't stage it live he'll edit the event into the show. He tried to get Sanchez to slap Kos but Kos out smarted them both ...

Kos still sux. He's a lay and pray fighter ... but I like his undaunted attitude towards the UFC management.

Originally Posted by ReproMan

Yeah, I don't like Kos much either, but I gotta give him credit. His stand up has improved immensely, although I'm still not sure if he hits like a sissy, or Diego's chin is granite.

Looked to me Diego's chin is pretty solid.

Originally Posted by Dumby

Understanding human anatomy is important, but a lot of what you see as "chin" in MMA is conditioning & determination I think. You can see in the eyes of great, hard ass fighters of the sport when they're rocked but their body language doesn't show it. You rarely see any person get knocked completely out with a punch. You see them get rocked, and see them wince and say to themselves "Ow, that hurt no more please, just let him win." When fighting truly becomes automatic and fear becomes a non-issue you see how good a fighter really is. Of course body structure plays a role, but I'd like to see more fighters like Huerta & Garcia who could careless about the pain.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Son of a bitch, I cant beleive no one has mentioned it (or maybe someone has).

Did anyone remember the fight after GSP's? The one where the fucking guy was so out of it, he grabbed the ref's leg?! I was rolling laughin and then they cut it right away!