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I'm not that into it. I am going to go into kickboxing...mainly for cardio...but also think that it's the most practical of 'arts' for today.
MMA is great in a ring...but from all I've witnessed as a bouncer...you do NOT want to go to the ground and grapple and try to submit in that atmosphere. Trying to explain it to a friend: let's say you and I are going at it...you take me down and we are on the ground and u are going for some submission/pain hold. My friend(s) seeing that I am losing...will come over and say kick you in the head..'cause you aer wrapped up and cannot defend against another opponent. Now..I also know a little..and I stress a LITTLE vee arnis jitsu. Its putting someone on the ground and disabling them and moving on. arm bars, breaks, chokes....etc but not ground combat. I'm 36...no longer working at the bar...and never start crap w/ anybody...so I seriously doubt I will ever be in another fight...which is just fine. However, I like the idea of being able to redirect their attack and submit or have fairly fast, powerful strikes in my arsenel. |
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very true-
sorry...usually...when u hear mma...people jump on the 'ju jitsu is the greatest!' band wagon. I would definately like to know more holds, come-alongs and such...I was able to take an Aikido lesson w/a friend whose instructor is internationally ranked. Good stuff..but THAT takes a while to master. I liked the fast/brutalness of the Vee Arnis. (same basic: stop the attack, use their momentum against them, counter and put out of commission) |
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allright...sounds like you are gettnig enough cardio knocked out...
wait...how 'new' are you to lifting? |
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Lol ... and see how that BJJ style does now in MMA. BJJ only fighters often get owned ... but BJJ fighters that also know muay-thai or another strong stand-up style are the hardest to beat.
Good luck on the Vee Arnis. It's a great style developed from practical needs that cover both ground and standing techniques. Good stuff. |

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I just had my 1st boxing lesson the other day...ho-lee-crap...I'm outta shape!
I got put against a 14 year old kid...great...maybe I can move up to a girl... ![]() I go back tonight...gimme a couple weeks and I'll start getting the hang of it. Congrats on the sparring! It doens't matter that you 'lost'...just as long as you learned from it and improve! |
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i hurt my neck yesterday so i took it easy today. i did footwork. each round consisted of 3 minutes then 30 second rest as opposed to the reguar 1 minute rest
2xgoing forward 2xgoing backward 2xgoing right 2xgoing left |
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4xshadow then immediatly pads with no rest
4xheavy 4xspeed 2x footwork 2x jump 1x footwork with the jab |
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Originally Posted by katt
ok, so I'm not really great in the boxing knowledge field..whats MMA?
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oh, ok,,, we went to one of these - it was called "extreme fighting" in Vegas... it was pretty brutal.
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... 5 months later you're still here & still at it ... but he's loooong gone
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Busy ass workin lil mofo ... well done. Hey what did your wrestling coach advise you on your routine and your goals? Did you talk to him about your long range goals yet?
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... 5 months later you're still here & still at it ... but he's loooong gone ![]() |
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i havet talked to him yet but wreslting doesnt start for another couple of months. but we have 1 hour practices in the morning which start next week.
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Wrestling is not a sport you just get into and win at. You need to prepare your self way ahead of time in ways that you cannot do all at once. Core strength is soooooo important danny. Lol ... not just a six-pac either. Real core strength is about bringing all of your body into an action instead of just the part that's in motion. Connecting the power of your quads with your back when you're doing a fireman's throw requires good core. Lil bro you really might wanna make it a top priority to sit down with your coach and build up a solid winner's workout. Not trying to be pushy or nothing ... I just wanna see you post something on youtube of you winning.
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6 rds practicing sliping. i suck at it. i cant seem to slip jabs and crosses no amtter how much i practice
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alright i'm setting up some goals. i realize i need them.
i'm 145-155 pds and im 6 ft 1-2 i'm not sure what weight i should get to. Bone what do you think? and a low BF% and for lifting i'm not sure yet once i start lifting i'm gunna make some goals for that. |
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alright well im gunna try and stay at my own weight if not drop a few pounds. but im guessing once i start lifting i will gain a few pounds tho
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Beginners normally pick up size and weight pretty easily but if you work for power and especially if you work core you should be able to keep the weight in check.
Talk to that wrestling coach yet? |
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yah i talked to him yesterday during lunch. he gave me a workout. and said i should continue boxing until wrestling season and he gave me a workout routine and taught me the penetration step so that i can practice it alot.
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i had my first BJJ class yesterday. i learned the positions, the triangle, the proper way to do a choke from behind, an armbar from the gaurd, and 2 ways to get out of a mount.
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lol. its really hard. besides the fact that im using muscles i never used before the moves are hard to perfect.
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Those back and core muscles get to be way more important on the ground ... not to mention your grip.
How long is the inseam of your pants? 36" or more? |
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i usualy get my pants around 34 bbut they are really baggy so im guessing im aroudn 30"
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You have already shown us a history of doing that a bit. Aspiration, perspiration ... and patience = a winner every time.
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btw my triangle choke is sick. because i have long legs i can get it real tight. And is there a big diference between Gi and no Gi. because i dont have a Gi so i train with the NO gi guys
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i also did deck of cards with no face cards
what i do is i take out all face cards and jokers. and then just draw a card and do the number on the card for reps like A=1 2-10=that number of reps. i dont use face cards or jokers yet, but face cards = 10 and jokers =20 no rest to work cardio as well Diamond=hindu pushups heart=hundu squat spade=v-up club=tablemaker pushup its pretty good it kicked my ass lol. im trying to work up to using the whole deck then im gunna double the reps and keep wroking up til i cna do 3-4x the reps then find a new wrokout. my goal is to be able to do the whole deck while timesing each card by 4 |
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yeah i wouldnt put up with that shit id puch him right in his face
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good mornings
1x50 reps of 45 Incline bench 3x12,10,10, reps of 95 DB Pullover 3x12,10,10 rep of 40 Bent over DB rows 2x12,12 reps of 25 shrug 3x10,10,10 of 45 BW tricep extension 3x10,10,10 leg extensions 3x15,15,15 with number 5 on the weight rack Hamstring curls 3x10,10,10 with numer 2 on the weight rack |
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you are doing a lot of isolation type exercises. How often are you lifting? i ask, as i see you are doing high amounts of cadrio w/ your boxing and wrestling.
Might want to stick wtih just core lifts for now: bench, military press, squats, dead lifts, rows, pull ups/pull downs. |
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dont worrie about getting pinned if you keep at it and wrestle again next year the diff between a 1st year wrestler and a 2nd year one is huge you just have to keep goin even if you are gettin your ass handed to you right now.
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