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DAnny81s journal for boxing and MMA (help appreciated)


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Posted by: Burner02

gotcha



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I didn't know you were so much of an MMA fan there Burner. I mean I've seen you in a few MMA threads ... but not so much.



Posted by: Burner02

I'm not that into it. I am going to go into kickboxing...mainly for cardio...but also think that it's the most practical of 'arts' for today.
MMA is great in a ring...but from all I've witnessed as a bouncer...you do NOT want to go to the ground and grapple and try to submit in that atmosphere.
Trying to explain it to a friend:
let's say you and I are going at it...you take me down and we are on the ground and u are going for some submission/pain hold. My friend(s) seeing that I am losing...will come over and say kick you in the head..'cause you aer wrapped up and cannot defend against another opponent.
Now..I also know a little..and I stress a LITTLE vee arnis jitsu. Its putting someone on the ground and disabling them and moving on.
arm bars, breaks, chokes....etc but not ground combat.

I'm 36...no longer working at the bar...and never start crap w/ anybody...so I seriously doubt I will ever be in another fight...which is just fine. However, I like the idea of being able to redirect their attack and submit or have fairly fast, powerful strikes in my arsenel.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
I'm not that into it. I am going to go into kickboxing...mainly for cardio...but also think that it's the most practical of 'arts' for today.
MMA is great in a ring...but from all I've witnessed as a bouncer...you do NOT want to go to the ground and grapple and try to submit in that atmosphere.
Trying to explain it to a friend:
let's say you and I are going at it...you take me down and we are on the ground and u are going for some submission/pain hold. My friend(s) seeing that I am losing...will come over and say kick you in the head..'cause you aer wrapped up and cannot defend against another opponent.
Now..I also know a little..and I stress a LITTLE vee arnis jitsu. Its putting someone on the ground and disabling them and moving on.
arm bars, breaks, chokes....etc but not ground combat.

I'm 36...no longer working at the bar...and never start crap w/ anybody...so I seriously doubt I will ever be in another fight...which is just fine. However, I like the idea of being able to redirect their attack and submit or have fairly fast, powerful strikes in my arsenel.
That's the first time I've seen someone articulate why MMA is not good in a bar fight in a reasonable and plausible way. You're not accdurate, but you were still good at conveying your point. What you didn't do though was cover that only a fool is going to go to the ground in a place where he isn't sure of his surroundings.

MMA isn' t exclusively a ground based sport. It's all forms of fighting mixed into one. What kills the theory that MMA isn't useful in a fight is that MMA is the practical application of all forms of hand to hand combat after they have all been worked into a set of practiced skill sets so that the MMA fighter can transition from one style to another as the situation requires.

If you're out in the parking lot and some fat fool plows you into the asphalt you can reverse and choke the chump out in seconds IF you're an MMA fighter. A pure boxer or kick boxer would be limited to what ever strikes he could get in or physical prowess he could muster. If you're in the bar and that same fat fool tries to plow you down after he wakes up from his first nap you can sprawl out, toss in a muay-thai clinch ... then knee him back to sleep. A wrestler would be limited from a lack of striking skills. That's where MMA brings it all together ...

If you plan to study some kind of fighting style look for a place to study that can give you an MMA approach and you'll see the way it changes your mindset about the sport. Don't look at the bar fights as an example of MMA fighters in action ...



Posted by: Burner02

very true-
sorry...usually...when u hear mma...people jump on the 'ju jitsu is the greatest!' band wagon.
I would definately like to know more holds, come-alongs and such...I was able to take an Aikido lesson w/a friend whose instructor is internationally ranked. Good stuff..but THAT takes a while to master.
I liked the fast/brutalness of the Vee Arnis. (same basic: stop the attack, use their momentum against them, counter and put out of commission)



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
very true-
sorry...usually...when u hear mma...people jump on the 'ju jitsu is the greatest!' band wagon.
I would definately like to know more holds, come-alongs and such...I was able to take an Aikido lesson w/a friend whose instructor is internationally ranked. Good stuff..but THAT takes a while to master.
I liked the fast/brutalness of the Vee Arnis. (same basic: stop the attack, use their momentum against them, counter and put out of commission)
Lol ... and see how that BJJ style does now in MMA. BJJ only fighters often get owned ... but BJJ fighters that also know muay-thai or another strong stand-up style are the hardest to beat.

Good luck on the Vee Arnis. It's a great style developed from practical needs that cover both ground and standing techniques. Good stuff.



Posted by: danny81

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
allright...sounds like you are gettnig enough cardio knocked out...
wait...how 'new' are you to lifting?
monday was my first day



Posted by: Burner02

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Lol ... and see how that BJJ style does now in MMA. BJJ only fighters often get owned ... but BJJ fighters that also know muay-thai or another strong stand-up style are the hardest to beat.

Good luck on the Vee Arnis. It's a great style developed from practical needs that cover both ground and standing techniques. Good stuff.
Hey BC!
Haven't bene doing it...can't afford both. THe kick boxing is 85.00 per month...on top of my 30.00/month gym membership...so will be sticking w/ that.
Just saw an interesting show on Discovery Channel on Friday night:
Upcoming Episodes - The History Channel series Human Weapon

that episode was on Eskrima. Was pretty wicked.
I do agree w/ you...a good striking style w/ the ability to grapple is superior.
I'ev been kinda kicking around the idea of going back to the club after the summer...if I do...the kick boxing won't be practical...as I don't fight people...I remove them...so having some good come-alongs and holds will work best...



Posted by: Burner02

heh...found this....kinda funny...now gonna stop whoring in danny's journal...



Posted by: danny81

3x2 min rounds of 40 yard sprints every 20 seconds.
3x5 squat
120
3x5 OHP
65
Pullups3x
5,4,3



Posted by: danny81

30 min pad work.
3rds heavy bag infight
1 rd reg heavy bag
2 rds speed bag
roman chair, powerchair, neck briges fornt and back side to side, chin rolls, roman chair



Posted by: BoneCrusher

This should be starting to feel a little light for ya. Beside the ohp and the squats I mean ... right?



Posted by: danny81

yah. i could def do more but for some reason on the squat i feel a real sharp pain on my waist line when im doing a reasonable amount of weight so im trying to figure out y. im gonna post it in the training secgtion.



Posted by: danny81

3x2 min int sprints
2 rds jump rope
1 rd shadowboxing
3x5 squat 125
3x5 bench 130
1x5 deadlift 145



Posted by: danny81

3x shadow box
4x heavybag
1x pad work
4x jumprope
3xroman chair
My coach sometimes has me do some weights when im with him should i just use a light weight so i dont mess up my schedule or really do it?



Posted by: danny81

yesterday
squat 3x5
135
OHP3x5
75
chinup 3x
4,6,5

today: balldrops on abs and sides, then ball throws on abs and sides, 5 rds shadowbox, 4rds of heavybag, 3x feet raised pushups, 3x speedbag, 3x inclined weight twist situps



Posted by: BoneCrusher

This was a good day danny. Great to see you pick up the pace



Posted by: danny81

thanks. my abs where killing me tho after alln the drops



Posted by: danny81

shadow box 3 rds, heavy bag 3rds, speedbag 2 rds, jumprope 2 rds, decline bench situps 3x



Posted by: tallcall

Certainly sounds like you had some fun today, good job!



Posted by: danny81

thanks. im taking a rest this week from weigths because i have a practice fight tomorrow



Posted by: danny81

5 rds heavybag, 2 rds shadowbox, 3 rds speedbag, 2xroman chair, 3x nautilus abs



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Hey bro you get your practice fight in yet?



Posted by: danny81

it got changed to tomorrow. but i cant wait.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Any chance of a real video? It would be cool as hell to see you box bro.



Posted by: danny81

i want someone to video it but im living with my grandparents currently so no one would be able to video it. althought all my freinds want to see me so i will definetly get a video up at somepoint



Posted by: Burner02

can you get a cheap tri pod and set it up to work the whole ring?



Posted by: danny81

it already happened. i sparred a 130 pdr who was in the olympic.



Posted by: danny81

i also did 4 rds shadow, 4 double end, 3 upper cut bag, 3 heavy bag, 6 jump rope with only 1 rest. BTW only advantage i had on all these guys was that i hit harder then all the guys even the ones heavier then me.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Just be careful about what you tell people about it cuz you'll look like your stretching the truth.



Posted by: danny81

lol. im not gonna tell anyone mainly because i got my ass whooped i barely landed any punches. altbought the few i did land he felt them. my coach is having me spar mainly lighter guys now because my speed is bad. and all the guys at the new gym except me =( are pros.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Keep banging in there with guys better than you and your game will improve big time. You're doin' good bro



Posted by: danny81

thanks. im probably gonna spar again monday.



Posted by: Witchblade

Keep up the good work.



Posted by: danny81

kk will do.



Posted by: Burner02

I just had my 1st boxing lesson the other day...ho-lee-crap...I'm outta shape!
I got put against a 14 year old kid...great...maybe I can move up to a girl...
I go back tonight...gimme a couple weeks and I'll start getting the hang of it.
Congrats on the sparring! It doens't matter that you 'lost'...just as long as you learned from it and improve!



Posted by: danny81

6 rds shadow boxing
1 defense
3 heavy
3 speed
3 jumprope
3x30 nautilus abs 70 pds
3x30 kick outs



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
I just had my 1st boxing lesson the other day...ho-lee-crap...I'm outta shape!
I got put against a 14 year old kid...great...maybe I can move up to a girl...
I go back tonight...gimme a couple weeks and I'll start getting the hang of it.
Congrats on the sparring! It doens't matter that you 'lost'...just as long as you learned from it and improve!
they had you spar the first day??

wat did they teach you? what type of stance? did they teach you footwork? what punches?



Posted by: danny81

6 shadow, 2 heavy, 4 speed, 4 jumprope,3x decline weighted twist situps, 3x rear neck bridges.



Posted by: danny81

im guna start bodxing 2morrow after a week of resting. but its weird my back and neck is still sore.



Posted by: danny81

2 rounds no rest jabbing singles, doubles, and triples.
2 rounds no rest stright rights
2 rounds hooks to head
1 round l eft hook or shovel to body and left hooks to hed.
4 speed
4 jump



Posted by: danny81

I started using 1 pd gloves.
3 rounds of padwork
4 rounds of heavybag
4xspeed
4xjumprope
3xnautulis abs
2xhanging leg raises
2xneck bridges
2x45 pd barbell wrist curl 20 reps



Posted by: danny81

i hurt my neck yesterday so i took it easy today. i did footwork. each round consisted of 3 minutes then 30 second rest as opposed to the reguar 1 minute rest

2xgoing forward
2xgoing backward
2xgoing right
2xgoing left



Posted by: katt

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
i hurt my neck yesterday so i took it easy today. i did footwork. each round consisted of 3 minutes then 30 second rest as opposed to the reguar 1 minute rest

2xgoing forward
2xgoing backward
2xgoing right
2xgoing left
So... you train primarily for boxing?? Is that avi you?



Posted by: danny81

no thats zab judah. i train mainly for MMA, but i incorporate weight 3x a week and running 3x but i just got off an injury so i am slowly building up.



Posted by: danny81

1x stepping back at 45 deg
1x circling
2x pivoting



Posted by: danny81

4xshadow then immediatly pads with no rest
4xheavy
4xspeed
2x footwork
2x jump
1x footwork with the jab



Posted by: katt

ok, so I'm not really great in the boxing knowledge field..whats MMA?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
4xshadow then immediatly pads with no rest
4xheavy
4xspeed
2x footwork
2x jump
1x footwork with the jab
How much time did you spend on this lil bro?

Quote:
Originally Posted by katt
ok, so I'm not really great in the boxing knowledge field..whats MMA?
YouTube Video




Posted by: katt

oh, ok,,, we went to one of these - it was called "extreme fighting" in Vegas... it was pretty brutal.



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
How much time did you spend on this lil bro?


YouTube Video
hour and 15 min. btw nice vid



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by katt View Post
oh, ok,,, we went to one of these - it was called "extreme fighting" in Vegas... it was pretty brutal.
they all have little names to try and sell more tickets



Posted by: danny81

3xheavy only straight pucnhes
3xheavy in fihting

only 30 sec rest
4x speed
2x jumprope
100 jumpropes 20 burpees rest 30 100 jump ropes 18 burpees
circuit
30decline pushups
15 decline twist situps
6 chinups
rest
repeat 2 more times



Posted by: katt

So,, how many of these MMA fights do you participate in?? You mind me asking?



Posted by: danny81

lol. 0. but its not a sport were u start fighting. i training in other MAs first. boxing, kickbxoign, and wreslting.



Posted by: danny81

4 rounds heavy bag only jab and moving around.



Posted by: danny81

4 round of heavy bag
only jabs and crosses
and the last 30 sec of each round i did 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 for the whole 30 secs as fast and hard as i could. very good workout. lol



Posted by: danny81

3x shadow
5x pad work
3x heavybag
4x speedbag
2x jumprope
power abs, roman chair then rest then repeat



Posted by: danny81

3 rds sparring
2rd heavy
1 rd shadow
3 speed
4 rope
3 roman chair
3 leg raises with 8 lbs
1 power abs



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Busy ass workin lil mofo ... well done. Hey what did your wrestling coach advise you on your routine and your goals? Did you talk to him about your long range goals yet?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by kinkery View Post
this journal wont last long
... 5 months later you're still here & still at it ... but he's loooong gone



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Busy ass workin lil mofo ... well done. Hey what did your wrestling coach advise you on your routine and your goals? Did you talk to him about your long range goals yet?
i havet talked to him yet but wreslting doesnt start for another couple of months. but we have 1 hour practices in the morning which start next week.



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
... 5 months later you're still here & still at it ... but he's loooong gone
lol. yah



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
i havet talked to him yet but wreslting doesnt start for another couple of months. but we have 1 hour practices in the morning which start next week.
Wrestling is not a sport you just get into and win at. You need to prepare your self way ahead of time in ways that you cannot do all at once. Core strength is soooooo important danny. Lol ... not just a six-pac either. Real core strength is about bringing all of your body into an action instead of just the part that's in motion. Connecting the power of your quads with your back when you're doing a fireman's throw requires good core. Lil bro you really might wanna make it a top priority to sit down with your coach and build up a solid winner's workout. Not trying to be pushy or nothing ... I just wanna see you post something on youtube of you winning.



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Wrestling is not a sport you just get into and win at. You need to prepare your self way ahead of time in ways that you cannot do all at once. Core strength is soooooo important danny. Lol ... not just a six-pac either. Real core strength is about bringing all of your body into an action instead of just the part that's in motion. Connecting the power of your quads with your back when you're doing a fireman's throw requires good core. Lil bro you really might wanna make it a top priority to sit down with your coach and build up a solid winner's workout. Not trying to be pushy or nothing ... I just wanna see you post something on youtube of you winning.
alright. well were jhaving these mini practices before school from 7-8 which i am going to go to they start sometime next week.



Posted by: danny81

6 rds practicing sliping. i suck at it. i cant seem to slip jabs and crosses no amtter how much i practice



Posted by: danny81

im gonna start lifitng agaain soon.



Posted by: danny81

2x defense
4xheaavy bag
3x cable punches
3x speedbag
3x jumprope no rest
1x decline abs
1x weight decline bs
1x power abs nautulis



Posted by: danny81

alright im settingup some goals. i realize i need them.
im 145-155 pds
and im 6 ft 1-2
im not sure what weight i should get to. Bone what do you think?
and a low BF%
and for lifting im not sure yet once i start lifting im gunna make some goals for that.



Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
6 rds practicing sliping. i suck at it. i cant seem to slip jabs and crosses no amtter how much i practice
watch his collar bone area. you will see movement in his shoulders to start the punch. then its just moving your head a few inches to get away



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
alright i'm setting up some goals. i realize i need them.
i'm 145-155 pds
and im 6 ft 1-2
i'm not sure what weight i should get to. Bone what do you think?
and a low BF%
and for lifting i'm not sure yet once i start lifting i'm gunna make some goals for that.
You gonna wrestle? Do NOT bulk. Work out hard on power to weight ratio, core, but not to add weight. You don't wanna get put in there with the bigger guys yet.

Design all of what you do for wrestling and focus on that alone. You do that and you'll be a winner. Focus + perspiration = victory.



Posted by: danny81

alright well im gunna try and stay at my own weight if not drop a few pounds. but im guessing once i start lifting i will gain a few pounds tho



Posted by: danny81

20+min of practicing slipping



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
alright well im gunna try and stay at my own weight if not drop a few pounds. but im guessing once i start lifting i will gain a few pounds tho
Beginners normally pick up size and weight pretty easily but if you work for power and especially if you work core you should be able to keep the weight in check.

Talk to that wrestling coach yet?



Posted by: Witchblade

Just work on strength and keep your calories in check and you won't grow, but you will gain strength.



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Beginners normally pick up size and weight pretty easily but if you work for power and especially if you work core you should be able to keep the weight in check.

Talk to that wrestling coach yet?
yah i talked to him yesterday during lunch. he gave me a workout. and said i should continue boxing until wrestling season and he gave me a workout routine and taught me the penetration step so that i can practice it alot.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
yah i talked to him yesterday during lunch. he gave me a workout. and said i should continue boxing until wrestling season and he gave me a workout routine and taught me the penetration step so that i can practice it alot.
I'm really glad to see you plan ahead like this. It will pay off for you when you hit the mat.

Post that workout when you get a chance. I'd like to see what he has in mind for you.



Posted by: danny81

its basically the same workout i was doing before. thats where i got the workout from before. but he recomends do a different running routine. he says i should sprint mon, distance(no more than 3 miles) on weds, and a mix on fridays.



Posted by: danny81

4xshadow
2xspeed heavy bag
2(no rest) technique
4x speed
4x jumprope
2x superset decline situps w/twist and leg raises



Posted by: danny81

i also practiced my penteation step



Posted by: danny81

4x heavy
3x tecnique inbetween rounds i do defense

heavy
1x straight rights
1x jabs
2x left hooks
1x right hooks
3x speed
3x rope



Posted by: danny81

6by pads
4x heavy
4x speed
4x rope
3x decline pushups
3x roman chair.

2morrow is my first bjj class i cant wait



Posted by: BoneCrusher

5 days with no posts here. Good to see you back lil bro.



Posted by: danny81

thanks the reason i havent been working out was because i was going to different gym for wrestling and BJJ tying them out. i finally found one. which i am starting 2morrow



Posted by: danny81

i had my first BJJ class yesterday. i learned the positions, the triangle, the proper way to do a choke from behind, an armbar from the gaurd, and 2 ways to get out of a mount.



Posted by: danny81

9hrs of sleep last night

10-11:15
4 rounds bag
4 rounds pads

30 sec rest inbetween rounds
4 speed
4 rope
3x weighted decline abs with twist
2x neck rolls

11:40

1 bowl wholewheat pasta with parmasean cheese and tomato sauce.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
i had my first BJJ class yesterday. i learned the positions, the triangle, the proper way to do a choke from behind, an armbar from the gaurd, and 2 ways to get out of a mount.
Not as easy as it looks on TV is it?



Posted by: danny81

lol. its really hard. besides the fact that im using muscles i never used before the moves are hard to perfect.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
lol. its really hard. besides the fact that im using muscles i never used before the moves are hard to perfect.
Those back and core muscles get to be way more important on the ground ... not to mention your grip.

How long is the inseam of your pants? 36" or more?



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Those back and core muscles get to be way more important on the ground ... not to mention your grip.

How long is the inseam of your pants? 36" or more?
i usualy get my pants around 34 bbut they are really baggy so im guessing im aroudn 30"



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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i usualy get my pants around 34 bbut they are really baggy so im guessing im aroudn 30"
No bro not the waist the length.



Posted by: danny81

around 34



Posted by: danny81

yesterday continued.
3:30 chicken parm hero
7:45-9:30
wrestling
45 mion of drills which is running/footwork, rolls and cartwheels etc carrying people
30 min learning new techiniques
rest= live wrestling

today
8 hours of sleep
7: 3 eggs and one piece of whole grain bread with cream cheese
11:30 Pizza and milk(i forgot to bring lunch so had to buy school lunch)
4 15 sandwhich



Posted by: danny81

yesterday:
7:45-9:30
wrestling
30min running/footwork
45 min haand fighting
rest=lie

10:30 turkey sausuge and peppes with tomatos
and 2 bowls of cheerios

today
7 hrs sleep
12 chicken ceaser salad
4 penne pasta with broccoli.



Posted by: danny81

7-8:40 BJJ
1 hr technique
40 min of rolling



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I don't see any stretching going on here. Not just warm up and warm down stretching, but something to actually increase how far you can raise your leg in a front kick. Get an old inner tube from a bike and tie a rope to it. Throw the rope over a rafter or tree limb then stick your ankle in it and pull your leg up while leaning in to it. When your knee rests on your shoulder with no arch in your back you're getting somewhere. Switch to a side stance and repeat.

The clip following is what you will be able to do if you stretch out well at your age danny. Do it now and you'll have it for life. Also, when you see guys like Penn avoid take downs with really outstanding balance that too comes from stretching out the hips. We're talking adding another 10 minutes 3x a week so that you can do this:
YouTube Video




Posted by: danny81

alright il start doing that.

today:
7
3 eggs and wholegrain toast with cream cheese
11 pizza(ugh again i didnt have time to make lunch)



Posted by: danny81

4: chicken parm hero
6-7 boxing
4 rounds heavy
3 rounds pads
2 rounds heavvy
1 round speed
circuit
weighted squat jumps
leg up pushups
decline twist situps
weighted squat jumps
leg up pushups
decline twist situps
twist situp(no decline)
weighted squat jumps
leg up pushups
roman chair situps



Posted by: danny81

8 hrs sleep
8: 3 eggs 2 whole grain toast
2: chicken parmigian with artichoke
6:30-8:15
BJJ



Posted by: BoneCrusher

So lil bro. We all find some kind of technique that just sorta "fits" us. The way we are all built is very different in various ways. Not just the shape but how our musculature is able to burst, what our power ranges are at different positions, and how much energy we can expel in a movement all go into making us unique.

Techniques group together and work differently on different body types. For example, guys with no neck are notorious for being able to avoid getting choked out while lanky guys can deliver KO power from odd angles and so on.

It's always best to focus training in techniques that if they don't work you are not in one of your more vulnerable positions. Lol ... A guy with a weak chin is not going to do well working inside the pocket with upper body strikes cuz he will get chin checked on a regular basis. Taking a nap 2 min's into a fight is not known as a winning technique. The weak chin guy needs to stay outside while working his lateral movement and look for freestyle takedowns like the shoot. If you have a solid chin, then you can work inside strikes and grecko based take downs from the hip.

Have you gotten far enough into your training to see where your going with that yet?



Posted by: danny81

im kind of im tall and lanky. and i have a hard punch and a good chin. my best punch is my straight right which all the trainers tell me. but my grappling and wreslting sux(for now)
today
8 hrs sleep
10-11:30 boxing
5 heaavy
3pads
1 heavy
3 shadow
3 speed only 1 rest
jumprope for 8 min



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Tall and lanky is killer on chokes and outside punches like the one Liddell is known for. Look up his youtube on how he throws a punch and give it a whirl. It sucks coming from a guy like you because of the speed you can throw it with. Because you're not built like the hulk it's harder to block then a straight punch (with gloves on that is) plus you can throw reverse kicks off of the rebound energy after you connect. Makes for killer transition combos. If you hit the leg stretches I mentioned last time, then work that outside punch/rib kick combo during bag work you'll start to feel how transitions are there for you with that punch. Lol ... catch a guy ducking that punch as you throw the kick and ... ding ding ding lights out.

Straight rights are great and all, but it takes more body movement to follow them with a kick AND the kick is more likely to be telegraphed as you shift your body. With that outside punch you can just flow right off the punch into the kick with minimal shifting of your upper body so you telegraph less.

I liked your workouts you did this week. It looked like you picked it up a little bit there ...

Just listen to the body aches and don't rip anything up from over training danny You have already shown us a history of doing that a bit. Aspiration, perspiration ... and patience = a winner every time.



Posted by: danny81

thanks. i actually dont know any kicks lol. i was going to start kickboxing a while ago but never could find a gym.



Posted by: danny81

btw my triangle choke is sick. because i have long legs i can get it real tight. And is there a big diference between Gi and no Gi. because i dont have a Gi so i train with the NO gi guys



Posted by: danny81

10 hrs slep
wrestling
30 min footwork sprints and body drills
45 min hand fighting drills
30 min live



Posted by: tallcall

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
btw my triangle choke is sick. because i have long legs i can get it real tight. And is there a big diference between Gi and no Gi. because i dont have a Gi so i train with the NO gi guys


Sounds like fun! Training without a Gi probably helps prepare you for the mainstream fights anyways, right? Is it pretty easy for a guy training without a Gi to fight guys who only trained with a Gi? Either way, you're doing awesome!



Posted by: danny81

thanks bro. it is alot of fun.



Posted by: danny81

6 hrs sleep
wrestling 7:45-9:30
30 min running/body control
30 min stance/ penetration step
45min wrestling



Posted by: danny81

6 hrs sleep

BJJ
1 hr technique
45 min rolling.



Posted by: danny81

6 hrs of sleep and then i took a 1 hr nap at night
boxing

2 rounds shadow
5 heavy
1 set incline twist situps with 20 ball drops
1 set incline another 22 ball drops
3x speed
3x juprope
20 ball drop
roman chair 15 drops on both side
then 50x 35pds side bends



Posted by: Witchblade

Looks like you're progressing nicely.

It's good that you keep a record of how much you sleep. Sleep is very important (bit ironic, since this is coming from an insomniac, but it's true ).



Posted by: danny81

thanks i reay need more tho
6 hrs sleep

boxing:
2 shadow
2 heavy
2 speed
2 rope
1 hr rest
wrestling
20 min of jogging/footwork
45 min technique
35 min live



Posted by: danny81

6:30 sleep
BJJ
40 min of practicing new moves
1 hr rolling



Posted by: danny81

13 hrs sleep
today is rest day



Posted by: danny81

12:30 hours of sleep
wrestling
7 min jog
50 min techinique
45 min wrestling.



Posted by: danny81

6 hrs sleep.
wrestling
1:30 technique



Posted by: Mista

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
13 hrs sleep
today is rest day
That's heaps of rest time, are you asleep the whole time?



Posted by: danny81

lol yah. every weekend and day of the summer i get atleast 12 hrs sometimes even 16 lol. today
today
1 hour of wrestling techinque
rest 30 min
45 min of Jiu jitsu technique
50 min rolling



Posted by: danny81

2 shadow
2 heavy
2 speed
2 pads
4 heavy
2 shadow with 5 pd weights
circuit
situps with twist
jump squats with 5 pd dumbells
pullups
leg up pushups
repeat
lie down slam ball on stomach 30x
stand up hit stomach 20x



Posted by: danny81

15hrs of sleep
bjj
45 min technique
45 min rolling



Posted by: danny81

11 hrs sleep
rest today



Posted by: danny81

not a rest day. circuit
Bridge 1=go up and down then side to side x 10
shrug 40 pds x25
pike pushup x 13
Chin-ups x 8
Plyo Push-ups x 15
Towel Pull-ups (2 towels for wide)x 10
Hindu Push-ups x 4
Bridge and Curl x 10
Towel Pull-ups(one towel for close grip) x 3
Burpees x 10
Dips x 3
Squat x 30
Wall Sit x 30 breaths
Calf Press with back of feet hanging off step x 50



Posted by: danny81

boxing
4rounds shadow boxing
4 rounds heavy
circuit
twist situps
plyo pushups with legs raised
chinups
repeat 2 more times
3 rds speed bag
3x10 pd dumbells. squat jump press



Posted by: danny81

wrestling conditioning:

1 1/4 mile jog sprint lat half of a quauter mile
running steps
sprints/back pedaling/side stepping etc.
stance work
squat holds
pushups
slow 1 1/4 mile jog sprint last hal o a quater mile



Posted by: danny81

wrestling
30 min joggin/footwork/lifting/sprinting
45 min technique
30 min live



Posted by: Rubes

so are you practice wrestling with your school right now or is it just with a few guys that will be on the team this year at this point?



Posted by: danny81

i got to a club. but the conditioning is just a captains practice

todays workout
today
6 hrs sleep
bjj
1hour technique
30 min roling



Posted by: Rubes

k start wrestling practice at my school in just over a week. and keep up the good work



Posted by: danny81

ive stil been training but havent been keeping a log. im starting back up today =)



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Dude. Don't fall off posting in here just because I'm out for four to six months. When you stop keeping a log you begin to stop keeping up your routines and danny that would really be a major let down to see you do ... not work out. I'll be back in four to six months and it would really mean a lot to see your improvements posted in this log lil bro. Don't get distracted and don't get lazy. WORK!!!!!!



Posted by: danny81

sorry. ill get on it. i was actually going to start posting tomorrow. but i did box and wrestle today.



Posted by: BoneCrusher





Posted by: danny81

wrestling
jog 2 miles
sprints
stair running
lifting= bench, pullups, bicep curls
1:30 min rest
boxing
3 rounds shadow
3 rounds heavy
3 rounds speed bag
lifting=
superset hamstring curls, quad extensions, incline DB bench, chinups 3x
superset
bicep curls and tricep extensions and lat raises 3x
superset
decline situps and leg raises 3x



Posted by: danny81

boxing= 40 min of technique
wrestling = 10 min jog
1hour 10 min min drills
20 min live



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Hows that wraslin'treain' ya there homeboy? Ya feelin' it yet? Gravity sucks ... especially when someone uses it against you

Good to see you back on this journal again.



Posted by: danny81

lol wrestling is hard as hell. im not good yet lol. but im getting better.

today
20 min stair running
10 min jogging
10 min sprinting



Posted by: danny81

i also did deck of cards with no face cards
what i do is i take out all face cards and jokers. and then just draw a card and do the number on the card for reps like A=1 2-10=that number of reps. i dont use face cards or jokers yet, but face cards = 10 and jokers =20
no rest to work cardio as well
Diamond=hindu pushups
heart=hundu squat
spade=v-up
club=tablemaker pushup
its pretty good it kicked my ass lol. im trying to work up to using the whole deck then im gunna double the reps and keep wroking up til i cna do 3-4x the reps then find a new wrokout. my goal is to be able to do the whole deck while timesing each card by 4



Posted by: danny81

boxing
3 rounds speedbag
3 rounds 5 pd dumbell shadow boxing straight punches only
3 rounds pads
3 rounds heavy baag
2x decline situps
1x side bends
ball drops on stomach 20. it hurt sooo bad because im trying to cut weight for wrestling.



Posted by: Rubes

how much weight and to what weight class?



Posted by: danny81

around 9 pds into 145.



Posted by: Rubes

thats not to bad. how long do you have to drop the weight?



Posted by: danny81

umm im not sure i think till around the first week indecember is the first tournment. what weight r u going to wreste at?



Posted by: Rubes

im going to wrestle 171/189 just depends on the school that we wrestle that night. i have to cut down to at least 175 from 180 by wed.



Posted by: danny81

the other guys on the site are being assholes and not giving me tips on how to cut down more. what ideas do you have for me? im eating very little as of now. do sauna suits work?



Posted by: Rubes

to tell you the truth i never really had trouble cutting weight so i dont know if a sauna suit will work. when sweat its like a rain storm so i just lose alot of weight from that. all i can say is just keep running alot to try and burn off what fat you have.



Posted by: danny81

alright thanks bro.



Posted by: Rubes

oh i guess you could wear like 2-4 layers when you run and practice that helps sometimes



Posted by: danny81

3 rounds sparroing
heavy bag 2
circuit situps thenball drops repeat 2 morex



Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
i also did deck of cards with no face cards
what i do is i take out all face cards and jokers. and then just draw a card and do the number on the card for reps like A=1 2-10=that number of reps. i dont use face cards or jokers yet, but face cards = 10 and jokers =20
no rest to work cardio as well
Diamond=hindu pushups
heart=hundu squat
spade=v-up
club=tablemaker pushup
its pretty good it kicked my ass lol. im trying to work up to using the whole deck then im gunna double the reps and keep wroking up til i cna do 3-4x the reps then find a new wrokout. my goal is to be able to do the whole deck while timesing each card by 4
Good stuff, not to be funny but they use this a lot in prison.



Posted by: danny81

lol. it works good as hell. it gets cardio and strenght.



Posted by: min0 lee

I know, where did you learn ths from?



Posted by: danny81

my boy showed it to me.
tody boxing 3 rounds sparring(im toughening my head lol cuz im getting crushed)
3 rounds hevy bag
4 rounds jumprope
3 rounds decline situps
2 rounds bal drop 40
rest 45 min
BJJ
drill 30 min
roll 1 hour



Posted by: danny81

2:30 hrs of wrestling tryouts
boxing
4 rds of pads only jabs
1 shadow boing only jab
3 pads everything
3x speed bg
2x
ciruit
twist situp
decline leg raises
side bends 25 pds

circuit
3x
15 flat situps
15 ball drops

front neck bridges
20 side to side
20 front bck
rear neck bridges
20 side to side
20 front back



Posted by: danny81

2;30 hour wresltio tryouts. BTW i made varsity at either 152 or 145



Posted by: danny81

wrestling practice 2:30 hours. scrimage



Posted by: danny81

alright when ever i sy wrestling prctice since it is the same thing everyday this is what it is
it is 2 and a half hours
we start off with 6 minutes of jumprope
then we stretch
then do line drills like penetration steps, sprawling, carry our partners in different holds like firemans, single, double, knee walking from various positions sprawling on partners etc.
then we do standing drills like, shadow wrestling, hand fighting, takedowns, then we do either 8 rounds of 2 minutes(wit about 5 seconds rest inbetween rounds) of just takedown nd then let the guy up and kkeep going. OR we do a practice match. 2 min standing rest about 5-10 seconds 2 min loser pics the postition. 5-10 sec rest. 2 min other guy picks position 5-10 sec rest. first takedown wins. 5-10 sec rest. one guy does top and other trys to escape. you have 30 seconds to escpe or other guy loses. tehn switch and repeat.
then 5 min break
then bottom drills like escapes, standups, switces, spin drills, cradles, etc.
then 8 rounds of 2 minutes on bottom or another live match. then 18 minutes of conditioining which could be anything from 18 minutes of joggin to 18 minutes of sprint work to 18 minutes on the stairs to a mix of all or 18minutes of calistenics or a mix of everything.



Posted by: danny81

brazilian jiu jitsu 1.5 hrs
Lifting
Squat 3x5
65lbs
bench 3x5
65lbs
pullups 3x5
BW



Posted by: danny81

boxing 3 rds shadow
3 rds heavybag
no rest
2.5 min heavybag(infighting)
1.5 min jumprope
2.5 min heavybag(infighting)
4 min jumprope
rest
no rest
decline abs w/ twist and medicine ball throws
leg raise pushes
20 side bends with 40lb DBs
decline abs w/ twist and medicine ball throws
leg raise pushes
flat situps till failure



Posted by: danny81

wrestling match pinned with 1 second left in the first round



Posted by: danny81

wrestling practice
boxing:
3 rds heavy
4 rds pads
1 rd heavy
3 straight speed
2 straight rope
decline abs then leg lifts



Posted by: Rubes

wtf is up with getting pinned. naw just playin with ya happens to everyone unless your like justin zerip or brent metcalf. just keep on workin hard and you will get alot better. how much fun is boxing?



Posted by: danny81

boxing is alot of fun i love it. the best part is taht when i wrestle i am muc better conditioned then all the other guys because of it.

wrestling match
anyway today i did better
i ran 1.5 miles in order to lose the last bit of weight right before weighings.
i wrestled 152
i lost in OT. i would of won but i touched hands above his head making it a ful lol i didnt no that was considered a full nelson. but i could take the kid down and lost. i would of won i was so pissed.



Posted by: danny81

boxing:
3 rounds body bag
3 rounds heavy bagoutside
1 round heavy bag combos
1 round heavy baag infighting
3 rouds speed
3 rounds jumprope no rest between rounds
twist situps
leg raises
helicopters
side bends
twist situps
leg raises
helicopters
sidebends
situps
leg raises
helicopters



Posted by: danny81

wrestling practice



Posted by: Rubes

i just read what your wrestling practices are like they sound rough. my schools arnt even that bad and are coach is a prick(then again none of us listen to him).



Posted by: Doublebase

My buddy was a wrestler in high school. I couldn't believe the practices he went through. They really push the kids hard.



Posted by: danny81

wrestling practice



Posted by: danny81

lo yah. our coach is a straigt up dick 2. especially since i rarely make weight adn have to do runs before the match to make 145 lol.



Posted by: Rubes

yeah i wouldnt put up with that shit id puch him right in his face



Posted by: danny81

wreslting match. pinned 1st period



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubes View Post
yeah i wouldnt put up with that shit id puch him right in his face
he doesnt make me run. lol. i hae to or else i wouldnt make weight



Posted by: danny81

wresling practice



Posted by: danny81

lost round 1 against county champion



Posted by: danny81

good mornings
1x50 reps of 45

Incline bench
3x12,10,10, reps of 95

DB Pullover
3x12,10,10 rep of 40

Bent over DB rows
2x12,12 reps of 25

shrug
3x10,10,10 of 45

BW tricep extension
3x10,10,10

leg extensions
3x15,15,15 with number 5 on the weight rack

Hamstring curls
3x10,10,10 with numer 2 on the weight rack



Posted by: danny81

wrelting practice



Posted by: Burner02

Quote:
Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
good mornings
1x50 reps of 45

Incline bench
3x12,10,10, reps of 95

DB Pullover
3x12,10,10 rep of 40

Bent over DB rows
2x12,12 reps of 25

shrug
3x10,10,10 of 45

BW tricep extension
3x10,10,10

leg extensions
3x15,15,15 with number 5 on the weight rack

Hamstring curls
3x10,10,10 with numer 2 on the weight rack
you are doing a lot of isolation type exercises. How often are you lifting? i ask, as i see you are doing high amounts of cadrio w/ your boxing and wrestling.
Might want to stick wtih just core lifts for now:
bench, military press, squats, dead lifts, rows, pull ups/pull downs.



Posted by: danny81

wrestlign practice
then boxing
3 rds speed
2 rd pad
4 rds heavy



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
you are doing a lot of isolation type exercises. How often are you lifting? i ask, as i see you are doing high amounts of cadrio w/ your boxing and wrestling.
Might want to stick wtih just core lifts for now:
bench, military press, squats, dead lifts, rows, pull ups/pull downs.
yah i got realy sore after that workout lol so i stopped. im still sore and have a fight 2morrow



Posted by: danny81

3 wrestling matche 2day
got pinned in first round
got pinned in 2nd round
lost by pointss funny thing was he was the best of the 3 lo

got home and lifted
squat 3x5 95lb
bench 3x5 95lb
chinup 3x8



Posted by: Rubes

dont worrie about getting pinned if you keep at it and wrestle again next year the diff between a 1st year wrestler and a 2nd year one is huge you just have to keep goin even if you are gettin your ass handed to you right now.



Posted by: danny81

squat 3x5 105lb
bench 3x5 105 lb
chinup 3x6



Posted by: danny81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubes View Post
dont worrie about getting pinned if you keep at it and wrestle again next year the diff between a 1st year wrestler and a 2nd year one is huge you just have to keep goin even if you are gettin your ass handed to you right now.
yah thanks bro. im getting beat down now. but i am alo getting much better.



Posted by: danny81

ran 2 miles on treadmill



Posted by: danny81

squat 3x5 115lb
standing overhead press 3x5 65lb
DL 1x5 135lb



Posted by: danny81

squat 3x5
125
bench 3x5
125
pendlay row 3x5
115



Posted by: danny81

squat 3x5 135lb
OH press 3x5 75 lb
pullup 3x9,9,7



Posted by: danny81

2 mile run
wrestlig practice
boxing
4x heavy
2x pads
circuit
decline twist situps, burpees, ball drop on stomach, hammer strengh pulll, ball pushups, decline twist situps, bal throw at stomach, situps. 1 round fast rope swiing



Posted by: danny81

wrestling then BJJ



Posted by: danny81

bike 5 miles on bike machine with resistance

wrestlign match got pined 1st rd

squat 3x5 145
bench 3x5 135
Deadlift 1x5 165



Posted by: Rubes

keep on workin hard



Posted by: danny81

thank. bro look at my squat lol. i wa maxin tht lat week now i rep it



Posted by: Rubes

yeah squat is learnin the form then applying yourself to lift the weight when i was 16 i could bearly squat 225 one time then right before i hit 17 i was able to hit 315x5 because i worked on form and just kept on trying to do better. just work hard and your squat weights will go up alot in no time just dont push yourself to hard or you could get hurt



Posted by: danny81

my coac made a bet with me that i cant squat 215 for 5 reps by march 1st. im gunna win thiss bet so bad lol



Posted by: Rubes

bust your ass and do it



Posted by: danny81

i wil anyway. today
wrestling practice
then boxing
circuit no rest between anything
machine crunches
roman chair situps
machine crunches
roman chair situps
decline twist itups
ball drops on stomach and sides
2 rds shadow
3rds heavybag



Posted by: danny81

nd 2 miles on eliptical machine



Posted by: danny81

squat 3x5 185
bench3x5 160
dead lift 1x 245
dips 2x9 wit 35 lbs
and 2 hours bjj
that was yesterday



Posted by: min0 lee





Posted by: KEFE

Get your lifts up man.How old are you?



Posted by: danny81

im 16. u dissing me cuz?




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