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Posted by: JailHouse

early Saturday morning work out???? did you do those weighted crunches on the floor?



Posted by: JailHouse

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Cool. You'd make a great PT. At least you did'nt get really blitzed and make a fool of yourself in front of people you did'nt know. Sounds like a good night, except for the married girls part....

I feel like sinking a few tonight and seeing where the fair wind blows the sails of the goob pleasure boat.......
lol. thats y I cant go to a work function that involves alcohol. ill be the hammered guy getting crazy around a bunch of practically sober people.



Posted by: tallcall

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If you meet a girl while out, and spontinaneously take her to 3 or 4 diferent places it can create a time warp effect, making her think she has known you longer than she has. This makes her more comfortable with you, and therefore easier to get into bed.
Goob's thinking 4 or 5 steps ahead!

Have I fallen through some kind of portal or something?



Posted by: Gazhole

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Goob's thinking 4 or 5 steps ahead!

Have I fallen through some kind of portal or something?
No, its just all the millions of individual nanogoobites that comprise the one we know as goob are evolving. See, goob isnt really a person, but a collection of microscopic biomechanical lifeforms joined together in a sort of mesh. These are the nanogoobites.

The more these NGBs are damaged through crazy working out, the more they are replaced, and with each subsequent generation they get smarter. Since goob's workouts have been particularly brutal lately, i should think he has received a net IQ increase of a good few points.

Hence the inclusion of forethought - a trait never before associated with the goobster.

Hope that clears everything up.

-Dr G. Hole, Professor of Goobology at SDA University



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Posted by: goob

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No, its just all the millions of individual nanogoobites that comprise the one we know as goob are evolving. See, goob isnt really a person, but a collection of microscopic biomechanical lifeforms joined together in a sort of mesh. These are the nanogoobites.

The more these NGBs are damaged through crazy working out, the more they are replaced, and with each subsequent generation they get smarter. Since goob's workouts have been particularly brutal lately, i should think he has received a net IQ increase of a good few points.

Hence the inclusion of forethought - a trait never before associated with the goobster.

Hope that clears everything up.

-Dr G. Hole, Professor of Goobology at SDA University
Yes, nanogoobite 3477942b reporting on behalf of the collective.

This hypothesis seems to be correct, unfortunately it seems that core systems seem to be damaged, resulting in a self destructive core program. It also seems that the vulgarity control system is also damaged.

Both of these systems can only be counterbalanced with a steady feed of alcoholobots ,narcoticbots and loose womengoobites. A lack of any of these ingredients could cause catastrophic self destructive applications starting.....



Posted by: goob

BB Bulgarian/Hack squat combination.
(Bulgarian squats, holding the BB behind standing leg)
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Straight Leg Deads
(*Back is bad, can't really go heavy on these, plus I was just trying them out)
110 x 12
110 x 12
110 x 12
110 x 12
110 x 12

Hindu pushups
10
10
10
10
10

BB Curls
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Strange workout. Half Legs, half other. Still, it was pretty harsh. The Bulgarian type things were brutal...



Posted by: JailHouse

thats some good lookin stuff there. Nice way to mix things up.



Posted by: Gazhole

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Yes, nanogoobite 3477942b reporting on behalf of the collective.

This hypothesis seems to be correct, unfortunately it seems that core systems seem to be damaged, resulting in a self destructive core program. It also seems that the vulgarity control system is also damaged.

Both of these systems can only be counterbalanced with a steady feed of alcoholobots ,narcoticbots and loose womengoobites. A lack of any of these ingredients could cause catastrophic self destructive applications starting.....
@ that!

Nice combination of movements there actually, Hindu Pushups are brutal. Bulgarian squats even moreso.

Nice job



Posted by: Scarface30

excellent workout man Bulgarians are brutal! what are Hindu pushups anyway?

I would have posted in here yesterday, but after a night of bar-hopping and partying and then come on here to see words such as "unperturbable" and "inimical" my mind blew up...just a little bit though.



Posted by: goob

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excellent workout man Bulgarians are brutal! what are Hindu pushups anyway?

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Thanks Scar. THese are hindu's..

An evil movement, much harder than standard pushups. Although he's not doing them right, hands need to be further ahead, and closer together, to be really brutal. They work loads of muscles, you should try them.

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I would have posted in here yesterday, but after a night of bar-hopping and partying and then come on here to see words such as "unperturbable" and "inimical" my mind blew up...just a little bit though
I understand completely. Although, due to the unjust reputation me and Gaz were obtaining, it was necessary to show that we are infact upstanding, civilised gentlemen on the forefront of impeccable manners and intelligent conversation......



Posted by: Gazhole

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I understand completely. Although, due to the unjust reputation me and Gaz were obtaining, it was necessary to show that we are infact upstanding, civilised gentlemen on the forefront of impeccable manners and intelligent conversation......




Posted by: goob

An excellent pictorial metaphor old chap,.....



Posted by: Gazhole

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An excellent pictorial metaphor old chap,.....
You should have seen what i wanted to post





Posted by: goob

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You should have seen what i wanted to post

I don't think even the depths of the garbled, twisted mess of my mind can imagine..........

Yeah, the last thing we need is another x rated picture battle (although it was funny).....



Posted by: Gazhole

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I don't think even the depths of the garbled, twisted mess of my mind can imagine..........

Yeah, the last thing we need is another x rated picture battle (although it was funny).....
Too right, i spat out drinks far too many times :P.



Posted by: the other half

so is that what u call "left holding the bag"?
great dicussion going on here. it made my break out that thing called a dictionary.lol



Posted by: JailHouse

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this thread is full of ivy league level intelligent conversation.



Posted by: SamEaston

Nice SLDL's, but if you've got a sore back i would go easy on them.



Posted by: SamEaston

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this thread is full of ivy league level intelligent conversation.
i think what jailhouse is trying to say is that you're talking shit



Posted by: Scarface30

ooh, those (above) are Hindu pushups...look tough as shit!

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Posted by: goob

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i think what jailhouse is trying to say is that you're talking shit
Only a common-er would belittle such a rich intellictually stimulating and thought-provoking thread. Full of the wisdom of some of the most respected intellectual comentators of their time.....

Back to your slum, peasent.



Posted by: JailHouse

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Only a common-er would belittle such a rich intellictually stimulating and thought-provoking thread. Full of the wisdom of some of the most respected intellectual comentators of their time.....

Back to your slum, peasent.
LMFAO!! I hate being so smart some times.
That is one of the most influential pics Ive ever seen, so inspiring it almost brings a teer to my eye.



Posted by: SamEaston

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Only a common-er would belittle such a rich intellictually stimulating and thought-provoking thread. Full of the wisdom of some of the most respected intellectual comentators of their time.....

Back to your slum, peasent.
I see the dialogue in here has descended below the level of 'gutter-talk', and therefore below that at which i find favourable. From this point i deem this thread contemptible, and all you who post here are as inferior as the inflated, juvenile, wedgie-deserving, 'womangoobite'-consuming troll who started it.

So there



Posted by: SamEaston

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LMFAO!! I hate being so smart some times.
That is one of the most influential pics Ive ever seen, so inspiring it almost brings a teer to my eye.
is that the same as a tear?



Posted by: JailHouse

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
is that the same as a tear?
i reckon it iz.



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
I see the dialogue in here has descended below the level of 'gutter-talk', and therefore below that at which i find favourable. From this point i deem this thread contemptible, and all you who post here are as inferior as the inflated, juvenile, wedgie-deserving, 'womangoobite'-consuming troll who started it.

So there
One is unperturbed by your paroxysms of umbrage. Howbeit, one also notices a certain je-ne-sais-qoi in thy's disposition. Indicating a leverage towards eloquence and pique, that arrows thy as one of us clever social commentators of rich heritage.


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.....and all you who post here are as inferior as the inflated, juvenile, wedgie-deserving, 'womangoobite'-consuming troll who started it.
This comment did make one cachinnate.



Posted by: Brutus_G

^ Wtf!



Posted by: katt





Posted by: goob

DB Press
85 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 6

DB Rows
60's x 8
60's x 8
60's x 8

WG Chins
8
CG Chins
8
Pullups
8

T-Bars
175 x 8
175 x 8
175 x 6

Dips
BW + 25 x 8
BW + 25 x 8
BW + 25 x 8
DB Speed Shrugs
60's x 30
60's x 30

Utterly worthless. Too early in the morning, no energy. I should have breezed through this, although 8 rep DB presses would have proved hard even when full of energy.



Posted by: JailHouse

I like weighted dips smart guy. We need more funny pics!



Posted by: goob

Expeditously JH old chap, all in good time..


Today: 3.2 mile hotfoot. Time: unknown.

Not particuarly good, enery and stamina levels well down from their best. Disappointing.



Posted by: Gazhole

I Dont Know What We're Yelling About.



Posted by: Gazhole

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I like weighted dips smart guy. We need more funny pics!




Posted by: goob

WTF?



Posted by: Gazhole

I like eating spoonfuls of whipped cream. It makes up for all the chicks who've called me fat.



Posted by: Scarface30

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DB Press
85 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 6

DB Rows
60's x 8
60's x 8
60's x 8

WG Chins
8
CG Chins
8
Pullups
8

T-Bars
175 x 8
175 x 8
175 x 6

Dips
BW + 25 x 8
BW + 25 x 8
BW + 25 x 8
DB Speed Shrugs
60's x 30
60's x 30

Utterly worthless. Too early in the morning, no energy. I should have breezed through this, although 8 rep DB presses would have proved hard even when full of energy.
excellent workout, early or not that is one impressive workout. great job on the DB press and weighted dips

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Expeditously JH old chap, all in good time..


Today: 3.2 mile hotfoot. Time: unknown.

Not particuarly good, enery and stamina levels well down from their best. Disappointing.
as I said in Sam's journal, I need me to get doing some right good like cardio..how's that for some sweet English? lol

nice cardio goobster



Posted by: JailHouse

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it looks like you just threw up on the spoon lol.



Posted by: goob

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it looks like you just threw up on the spoon lol.
It's worse than that. Gaz ingests the wool from all those sheep he has sheared. He always said the sheep felt like a part of him...



Posted by: goob

Hang Cleans
90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 8

Face Pulls
80 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 8

SA pulldowns
80 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 8

Cruches
20
20
Cable crunches
90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 8

Ball pushups
10
10
WEighted Pushups
BW + 45 x 10
BW + 45 x 10
Tricep Pushups
10
10
10

Not bad. This 8 x 3 range seems to be giving me more problems than 5 x 5, or any of my usual volume nonsense. Damn you Witchblade.



Posted by: tallcall

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I don't get it, where are the farm animals??





Posted by: Brutus_G

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I like eating spoonfuls of whipped cream. It makes up for all the chicks who've called me fat.
wtf bro?



Posted by: Brutus_G

Still lovin the dips G.



Posted by: Scarface30

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Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
hahahaha great pic

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Hang Cleans
90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 8

Face Pulls
80 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 8

SA pulldowns
80 x 8
80 x 8
80 x 8

Cruches
20
20
Cable crunches
90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 8

Ball pushups
10
10
WEighted Pushups
BW + 45 x 10
BW + 45 x 10
Tricep Pushups
10
10
10

Not bad. This 8 x 3 range seems to be giving me more problems than 5 x 5, or any of my usual volume nonsense. Damn you Witchblade.
yes, looks like Witch wrote you a good one there.

great work though man, those are some nice hang cleans. I am really liking them in my complex I do, hard as hell too!



Posted by: Gazhole

Dw i’n dy garu di twllt dinau! Lol.

No, seriously, awesome workout, goob! Ive only done 8x3 using dynamic effort stuff, 6x3 with proper intensity was enough for me, so big respect, lol.

What are face pulls like? I meant to try them ages ago but never got around to it.



Posted by: goob

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Dw i’n dy garu di twllt dinau! Lol.

No, seriously, awesome workout, goob! Ive only done 8x3 using dynamic effort stuff, 6x3 with proper intensity was enough for me, so big respect, lol.

What are face pulls like? I meant to try them ages ago but never got around to it.
WTF? Something about heartburn and ass?

Thanks. I thought 3 x 8 would be easy, but I forgot to lower the weights to fit the RM scheme somewhat, so thats why it was so hard. Doh!

Face pulls are good. They feel wierd to do, hit the upper back/ sholders (yup great physiological terminology) well. Hard to remember to match the weight, so you don't lean back too much.



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
hahahaha great pic



yes, looks like Witch wrote you a good one there.

great work though man, those are some nice hang cleans. I am really liking them in my complex I do, hard as hell too!
Thanks scar. Witch is evil. don't trust him, he is trying to kill me.

Yeah the HC's felt good. Form is tough to keep though.



Posted by: Gazhole

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WTF? Something about heartburn and ass?

Thanks. I thought 3 x 8 would be easy, but I forgot to lower the weights to fit the RM scheme somewhat, so thats why it was so hard. Doh!

Face pulls are good. They feel wierd to do, hit the upper back/ sholders (yup great physiological terminology) well. Hard to remember to match the weight, so you don't lean back too much.
Is "I love you assholes." in welsh :P. I was gonna say "cunts" but ive only just remembered thats "contau".

Sounds good though. Ill have to get some apparatus set up to do them. What do you use? I was thinking a towel or a belt or something. Or do you use cables?



Posted by: goob

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Is "I love you assholes." in welsh :P. I was gonna say "cunts" but ive only just remembered thats "contau".

Sounds good though. Ill have to get some apparatus set up to do them. What do you use? I was thinking a towel or a belt or something. Or do you use cables?
Haha. Damn free translations. It said something like: "heartburn he covers love di twll bottoms".

Cables. I have no idea how you'd set up a towel type apparatus. If in doubt call Macgyiver, he could assemble a powerplant from twigs and eyeliner. If your gym has cables, go with that.



Posted by: Gazhole

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Haha. Damn free translations. It said something like: "heartburn he covers love di twll bottoms".

Cables. I have no idea how you'd set up a towel type apparatus. If in doubt call Macgyiver, he could assemble a powerplant from twigs and eyeliner. If your gym has cables, go with that.
I was thinking i could put a backpack with weight in it, wrap a towel or strap or something around a frame/pullup bar and pull that way.

Cables are probably much easier, though, haha .

And yeah, translators always mess things up. Languages just arent interchangable.



Posted by: goob

SLDL
150 x 8
180 x 8
180 x 8
190 x 8

Bulgarians
45 x 8
45 x 8
45 x 8

Leg Press
500 x 8
500 x 8
500 x 8

Rotational Deads
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 10

Leg Ext
140 x 8
140 x 8
140 x 8

Another early morning workout. WTF? Why? Why?

This marked the full force return of the most evil of all exersices. The unmentionable, torturous, sadistic, evil from the depths of hell. Yes, the BulgArian squat: the devil's lunge.

Also tried SLDL's for the first time in a long while. I'm not too sure about form, do you guys keep your legs locked straight throughout?

Needless to say, I was utterly destroyed atfer the SLDL's and Bulgarians. Legs had turned into sponge, and i started walikng like the stay puff marshmallow man on an 3 day ether bender. Closest I've come to bieng sick for a long time....



Posted by: Gazhole

I never lock legs in SLDL. Gotta have a slight bend or it just feels horrible and painful and not stable at all.

And yeah, Bulgarians are indeed very evil! They claimed my spine as tribute.

Awesome workout though, i bet the rotational deads didnt do much to help the destruction of goob. I always found them a bastard of a movement aswell.





Posted by: goob

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I never lock legs in SLDL. Gotta have a slight bend or it just feels horrible and painful and not stable at all.

And yeah, Bulgarians are indeed very evil! They claimed my spine as tribute.

Awesome workout though, i bet the rotational deads didnt do much to help the destruction of goob. I always found them a bastard of a movement aswell.

But do you feel it on your hamstrings as much with legs bent? My back seemed to take the brunt more than my legs, this can't be right surely?
Legs bent seems to sound like a safer way of doing it.

Yeah, the rotational deads did not help, they are really tough too.

Thanks Gaz, it was really punishing. My back is going to be so sore tomorrow.



Posted by: Gazhole

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But do you feel it on your hamstrings as much with legs bent? My back seemed to take the brunt more than my legs, this can't be right surely?
Legs bent seems to sound like a safer way of doing it.

Yeah, the rotational deads did not help, they are really tough too.

Thanks Gaz, it was really punishing. My back is going to be so sore tomorrow.
Yeah, i always feel the effort coming from my hams with bent legs. Keep your back neutral all the way through your ROM, and youll feel it straight away. I never feel my hams in straight legs either, all i feel is back pain.



Posted by: goob

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Yeah, i always feel the effort coming from my hams with bent legs. Keep your back neutral all the way through your ROM, and youll feel it straight away. I never feel my hams in straight legs either, all i feel is back pain.
When you say neutral, you mean straight backed? I think I might keep them in the program, although not nessasarily on bulgarian day. Cheers dude.



Posted by: Gazhole

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When you say neutral, you mean straight backed? I think I might keep them in the program, although not nessasarily on bulgarian day. Cheers dude.
Yeah, straight, lol. Not arched in either direction.

Theyre kinda like a go-between for full blown RDLs and the Straight Leg DLs.

And come on, leave on the same day. You know you like the challenge .



Posted by: goob

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Yeah, straight, lol. Not arched in either direction.

Theyre kinda like a go-between for full blown RDLs and the Straight Leg DLs.

And come on, leave on the same day. You know you like the challenge .
Your on. It stays. Thanks for the advice.

I can't do RDL's because by back hates them (old injury), so i don't know how far I will be able to go with these....



Posted by: Gazhole

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Your on. It stays. Thanks for the advice.

I can't do RDL's because by back hates them (old injury), so i don't know how far I will be able to go with these....
Either way, keeping your legs straight would be worse for the injury. Just be smart with it, you know what you're doing

Im in the same boat anyway, i cant go particularly heavy with any leg work right now, lol.

And no worries - its about time we had a conversation about training



Posted by: DOMS

Here's an article on RDLs vs. SLDLs over at T-Nation.

One of my favorite exercises for hams is the Zercher Good-mornings.

And a very solid workout, goob. You'll be falling down onto the toilet in no time!



Posted by: goob

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Either way, keeping your legs straight would be worse for the injury. Just be smart with it, you know what you're doing

Im in the same boat anyway, i cant go particularly heavy with any leg work right now, lol.

And no worries - its about time we had a conversation about training
Thanks Gaz. The conversation on training was loooooooonnnnnggg overdue. I guess we'll continue after another 35 pages....

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Originally Posted by DOMS
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Originally Posted by DOMS


Thanks DOMS! Good article, the photos also helped me gauge just how to do them well.

I don't trust good mornings, I don't think my lower back injury would like them at all.



Posted by: JailHouse

nice job on the work out. for my dlifts ill slightly bend my knees on the way down.



Posted by: Brutus_G

I know back pain i messed up mine awhile ago and only recently have been able to do dead lifts. Good lord i hate Bulgarians! They are that evil shit.



Posted by: katt

Yeah I don't lock my legs on SLDL either....

GJ on the bulgarians ... those are super hard.



Posted by: Scarface30

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
SLDL
150 x 8
180 x 8
180 x 8
190 x 8

Bulgarians
45 x 8
45 x 8
45 x 8

Leg Press
500 x 8
500 x 8
500 x 8

Rotational Deads
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 10

Leg Ext
140 x 8
140 x 8
140 x 8

Another early morning workout. WTF? Why? Why?

This marked the full force return of the most evil of all exersices. The unmentionable, torturous, sadistic, evil from the depths of hell. Yes, the BulgArian squat: the devil's lunge.

Also tried SLDL's for the first time in a long while. I'm not too sure about form, do you guys keep your legs locked straight throughout?

Needless to say, I was utterly destroyed atfer the SLDL's and Bulgarians. Legs had turned into sponge, and i started walikng like the stay puff marshmallow man on an 3 day ether bender. Closest I've come to bieng sick for a long time....
awesome workout goob yes Bulgarians are the devil, those Southeastern Europeans..oh wait... jK

SLDLs I usually have a slight bend in the knee. good job though on doing them. I might be a complete idiot, but I don't really recall seeing you have done deads before?



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
nice job on the work out. for my dlifts ill slightly bend my knees on the way down.
TY JH!

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Originally Posted by B
know back pain i messed up mine awhile ago and only recently have been able to do dead lifts. Good lord i hate Bulgarians! They are that evil shit.
Bulgarians are not an exersice. They are toture.
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Originally Posted by katt
Yeah I don't lock my legs on SLDL either....

GJ on the bulgarians ... those are super hard.
TY katt. Done, knees will be getting slightly bent next time.

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Originally Posted by scar
awesome workout goob yes Bulgarians are the devil, those Southeastern Europeans..oh wait... jK

SLDLs I usually have a slight bend in the knee. good job though on doing them. I might be a complete idiot, but I don't really recall seeing you have done deads before?
Eagle eyed Mr Scar. Yeah, I never really have done them, due to a back injury, but I've decided to give them another go. And those Bulgarians are evil. Satan's right testicle evil.

DOMS is crazy bad today. Legs are destroyed from the bulgarians, back sodomized from the SLDL's. Do you uys usually get DOMS this bad on your back after SLDL's?



Posted by: SamEaston

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DOMS is crazy bad today. Legs are destroyed from the bulgarians, back sodomized from the SLDL's. Do you uys usually get DOMS this bad on your back after SLDL's?
Yes, every time. I had to stop doing them because i couldn't grip the weight any longer, my back could take it but my grip couldn't

Anyway, slightly bent knee on SLDL's is the way forward. Also a bent knee on Good Mornings with feet slightly apart is a good way to really feel the stretch through the glutes and hams. I would recommend a very light weight to start GM's though, maybe the weight you used was too much? I prefer GM's to SLDL's ive got to say.

I really need to try those Bulgarians. My method of torture at the moment is Split Squats - FUCK! The bottom of the movement feels as if my muscles are going to come pinging off like a rubber band

Anyway - excellent, highly motivational and impressive workout you got there. Throw in some heavy Leg Presses and finish with a serving of Leg Extensions. Voila!



Posted by: goob

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Yes, every time. I had to stop doing them because i couldn't grip the weight any longer, my back could take it but my grip couldn't

Anyway, slightly bent knee on SLDL's is the way forward. Also a bent knee on Good Mornings with feet slightly apart is a good way to really feel the stretch through the glutes and hams. I would recommend a very light weight to start GM's though, maybe the weight you used was too much? I prefer GM's to SLDL's ive got to say.

I really need to try those Bulgarians. My method of torture at the moment is Split Squats - FUCK! The bottom of the movement feels as if my muscles are going to come pinging off like a rubber band

Anyway - excellent, highly motivational and impressive workout you got there. Throw in some heavy Leg Presses and finish with a serving of Leg Extensions. Voila!
Thanks Sam. I hear you on the grip, I could have gone a good bit heavier, but my grip could not hold the bar for 8. I think I'll need some sort of strapping device if i'm too continue these.

GM's scare me even more than SLDL's, and I just know my back (old injury) would not thank me for them. Split squats are much the same as Bulgarians, maybe with slightly easier balance dynamics, but probably not by much. Either way,both are unbelievable torture. To me, there is no worse than a Bulgarian squat, if you can endure them, then you can do anything.....



Posted by: Gazhole

I was tempted to do some split squats today but i thought better of it. Theyre a crazy as hell movement.

Ive been thinking of a movement for ages now, but i never seem to get around to trying it:

The Cross Squat - Grab a DB in each hand and raise your arms to the middle of a lateral raise like your body is a crucifix, and squat keeping your arms in that isometric position.

Sounds pretty brutal, lol.



Posted by: Brutus_G

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks Sam. I hear you on the grip, I could have gone a good bit heavier, but my grip could not hold the bar for 8. I think I'll need some sort of strapping device if i'm too continue these.

GM's scare me even more than SLDL's, and I just know my back (old injury) would not thank me for them. Split squats are much the same as Bulgarians, maybe with slightly easier balance dynamics, but probably not by much. Either way,both are unbelievable torture. To me, there is no worse than a Bulgarian squat, if you can endure them, then you can do anything.....
I use straps but be careful not to use them for every little thing like i used to. Yeah GM are a great exercise if your built for it and have no previous injuries i avoid that one like the plague.



Posted by: the other half

bbbbooooorrrriiiiinnnnnggggg!!!!!!!
who took over goob's journal!



Posted by: the other half

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks Sam. I think I'll need some sort of strapping device if i'm too continue.
is there something that we should know about here?



Posted by: tallcall

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks Sam. I think I'll need some sort of strap-on if i'm too continue doing this.
Goob, I don't even want to know what you meant by that statement.







Posted by: JailHouse

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
is there something that we should know about here?
lol.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
I was tempted to do some split squats today but i thought better of it. Theyre a crazy as hell movement.

Ive been thinking of a movement for ages now, but i never seem to get around to trying it:

The Cross Squat - Grab a DB in each hand and raise your arms to the middle of a lateral raise like your body is a crucifix, and squat keeping your arms in that isometric position.

Sounds pretty brutal, lol.
Already noted that one. Came across it under the name of "iron cross squats". They look pretty hard, won't be too hard on the legs, but the arms and shoulders will hate you.

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Originally Posted by B
I use straps but be careful not to use them for every little thing like i used to. Yeah GM are a great exercise if your built for it and have no previous injuries i avoid that one like the plague.
I'll wait to see how DL'ing will go. GM's will not, in any way be part of any program I will do.

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Originally Posted by OH
bbbbooooorrrriiiiinnnnnggggg!!!!!!!
who took over goob's journal!
Well, come on give me a break. After 56 pages of nonsense, it was about time some training did have to come into it.

However, normal service will resume soon.

Quote:
is there something that we should know about here?
No, nothing katt has'nt shown you before......

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Originally Posted by TC
Goob, I don't even want to know what you meant by that statement.
Hey, you try keeping up with Gaz at Sheepathon 2008. You'll spit more lead than Charlton Heston at a turkey shoot.....



Posted by: goob

Today: 3.3 mile run. Untimed, not too bad, by no means flying like i was last year.



Posted by: Scarface30

nice running above dude, It'll be a happy day for me when I can run 3.3 miles. where do you live anyway? weird question I know, but is there a lot of snow around, or do you run inside on a track?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
I was tempted to do some split squats today but i thought better of it. Theyre a crazy as hell movement.

Ive been thinking of a movement for ages now, but i never seem to get around to trying it:

The Cross Squat - Grab a DB in each hand and raise your arms to the middle of a lateral raise like your body is a crucifix, and squat keeping your arms in that isometric position.

Sounds pretty brutal, lol.
ummm....

performing the exercise + realizing you're going to see your lunch again because they are so brutal =

crazy stuff.



Posted by: JailHouse

Did you find that strap on device you were looking for? lol



Posted by: tallcall

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Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
Did you find that strap on device you were looking for? lol
He's still looking



Posted by: Brutus_G

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Today: 3.3 mile run. Untimed, not too bad, by no means flying like i was last year.
I remember how fast you were that was just impressive!



Posted by: goob

B: Yeah, it's a big difference now, not nearly as fast.


DB Bench
75 x 7
80 x 7
80 x 7
80 x 7

WG Chins
7
7
CG
7
7

DB Rows bi lateral
50's x 7
50's x 7
50's x 6
50's x 5

T-bars
165 x 7
165 x 7
165 x 7
165 x 7

Dips
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7

DB Shrugs
60's x 20
60's x 20

Not great, but still felt destroyed afterwards.



Posted by: JailHouse

so youve started running again? Nice upper body work.



Posted by: SamEaston

Bilateral DB Rows are tough. Unsupported im guessing?

Also great WG Chins - they are really difficult. How many CG Chins could you do before failing, do you reckon?



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
so youve started running again? Nice upper body work.
TY. Yeah, for now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Bilateral DB Rows are tough. Unsupported im guessing?

Also great WG Chins - they are really difficult. How many CG Chins could you do before failing, do you reckon?
Yeah the bi's were unsupported and they are hard, an underused movement IMO.

On a good day, maybe 12-15 WG chins, if I did them first.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Your dips and DB bench are way up there brother G good work!



Posted by: JailHouse

I just farted!



Posted by: Scarface30

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
B: Yeah, it's a big difference now, not nearly as fast.


DB Bench
75 x 7
80 x 7
80 x 7
80 x 7

WG Chins
7
7
CG
7
7

DB Rows bi lateral
50's x 7
50's x 7
50's x 6
50's x 5

T-bars
165 x 7
165 x 7
165 x 7
165 x 7

Dips
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7
BW + 30 x 7

DB Shrugs
60's x 20
60's x 20

Not great, but still felt destroyed afterwards.
nice 7s across the board there. great workout your T-bars and dips are very nice



Posted by: the other half

bw+30 on dips- thats good dude.



Posted by: tallcall

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I just farted!
Signature worthy line right there!





Posted by: tallcall

Those Trap bar rows are very impressive! Are you counting the weight of the bar or just the added weight?



Posted by: JailHouse

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Originally Posted by tallcall View Post
Signature worthy line right there!

this journal is where sigs are created lol



Posted by: SamEaston

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Yeah the bi's were unsupported and they are hard, an underused movement IMO.

On a good day, maybe 12-15 WG chins, if I did them first.
Wow - that's alot



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Your dips and DB bench are way up there brother G good work!
THanks B!
Quote:
Originally Posted by scar

nice 7s across the board there. great workout your T-bars and dips are very nice
Lucky number se7en. Cheers dude.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OH
bw+30 on dips- thats good dude
Not too bad. Thanks OH.
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Originally Posted by TC

Those Trap bar rows are very impressive! Are you counting the weight of the bar or just the added weight?
No, it's T-bar rows, not trap bar rows, unless they are the same?

I do include the bar, it's about 35-40lb's. Cheers TC.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH
this journal is where sigs are created lol
Yeah, it seems that training has infiltrated this den of filth recently....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Wow - that's alot
Yeah, but as I said that would be on a GOOD day, 1st up in the routine...



Posted by: goob

Today:

Front Squats
110 x 7
110 x 7
110 x 7
110 x 7
Hang Clean
90 x 7
90 x 7
90 x 7
90 x 7

Speed bench
90 x 7
90 x 7
90 x 7
90 x 7

SA pulldowns/ face pulls complex ( no rest)
90 x 7 / 80 x 7
90 x 7 / 80 x 7
90 x 7 / 80 x 7

Weighted pushups
BW +50 x 10
BW+ 50 x 10
Diamond pushups
10
10
10

Cable crunches
100 x 10
100 x 10
100 x 10
Crunches
30

Good workout, managed to find some of the turbo mode that comes on sometimes. Some, not all, but it was more than enough to kick ass.



Posted by: DOMS

Great weighted Push-ups, man!

How long did that workout take?



Posted by: Gazhole

Damn, thats even more than i did, haha. What is it with us and huge workouts?

Great job, though man!

This program seems to be working for you anyways, how are you finding it?



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Great weighted Push-ups, man!

How long did that workout take?
Thanks DOMS, about 35-40 minutes. Could not have done it without the turbo mode.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaz
Damn, thats even more than i did, haha. What is it with us and huge workouts?

Great job, though man!

This program seems to be working for you anyways, how are you finding it?
I don't know. I guess we got to the point that we can take a lot of punishment, and just keep pushing it until we feel suitably incapacitated.

Yeah, it's quite a hard program (thanks Witch), more because of the rep range variations...

3x15
5x6
4x9
3x7

I've only done a week each on 3 x 7 and 4 x 9 (or at least it would have been if I'd remembered.) It's tough, the leg day rips your soul out, sells it to the devil, then comes back to beat you over the head with it...



Posted by: Gazhole

I think a lot of the difficulty is in that those rep ranges are not the "norm", you're not conditioned to them as well as the other more "classic" rep ranges.

Its a great idea, and something i dont vary as much as i probably should...



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
I think a lot of the difficulty is in that those rep ranges are not the "norm", you're not conditioned to them as well as the other more "classic" rep ranges.

Its a great idea, and something i dont vary as much as i probably should...
That makes sense. The 5 x 6 week is going to damn near kill me....

I'm not sure how much I should add/ drop weight depending on the day, which is why I feel so fucked after these....



Posted by: Gazhole

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
That makes sense. The 5 x 6 week is going to damn near kill me....

I'm not sure how much I should add/ drop weight depending on the day, which is why I feel so fucked after these....
I usually go by the breif formula that 2 reps = 5KG on a BB, and 2.5KG on a DB. So per rep in lbs would be 5.5lbs for a BB, and 2.75lbs on each DB.

In reality itd probably be 5lbs and 2.5lbs per rep or there abouts. Obviously its only rough, because i find more often than not my calculations at the start of a program are totally wrong, but if you just use it as a guide or basis for trial and error in the gym, its not too bad.



Posted by: Scarface30

you periodization is somewhat similar to what I am doing right now. I've put on about 5lbs so far, I am really enjoying it.

great workout though, those are some great hang cleans do you find them brutal or what? out of all the movements I do they seem to get the heart pumpin more so than any other movement I do.



Posted by: vortrit

Nice looking work. I see you're still hammering it out!



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
That makes sense. The 5 x 6 week is going to damn near kill me....

I'm not sure how much I should add/ drop weight depending on the day, which is why I feel so fucked after these....
I can only imagine leg day on 5X6. My least favorite range for legs is 4X8 that is hell right there.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
I usually go by the breif formula that 2 reps = 5KG on a BB, and 2.5KG on a DB. So per rep in lbs would be 5.5lbs for a BB, and 2.75lbs on each DB.

In reality itd probably be 5lbs and 2.5lbs per rep or there abouts. Obviously its only rough, because i find more often than not my calculations at the start of a program are totally wrong, but if you just use it as a guide or basis for trial and error in the gym, its not too bad.
Sounds good to me. Will start taking this into account instead of using the same weight for all varieties of madness...

Quote:
Originally Posted by scar
you periodization is somewhat similar to what I am doing right now. I've put on about 5lbs so far, I am really enjoying it.

great workout though, those are some great hang cleans do you find them brutal or what? out of all the movements I do they seem to get the heart pumpin more so than any other movement I do.
Yeah, they don't seem like they should be as brutal as they actually are. I quite like them. You should try the 5x6 range. I'm dreading it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by V
Nice looking work. I see you're still hammering it out!
TY V. Hopefully we'll see you back more often soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B
I can only imagine leg day on 5X6. My least favorite range for legs is 4X8 that is hell right there
5x6 bulgarian squats strikes fear into the bravest of souls.



Posted by: JailHouse

nice job on the hang cleans. im gunna start doing those once i get my form together.



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Yeah, but as I said that would be on a GOOD day, 1st up in the routine...
I know - but it's still great for WG!



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
nice job on the hang cleans. im gunna start doing those once i get my form together.
Yeah, they're a good move but form is hard to keep.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
I know - but it's still great for WG!
Thanks.



Posted by: goob

SLDL
190 x 7
190 x 7
190 x 7
190 x 7

Bulgarians
40's x 7
40's x 7
40's x 7
40's x 7

Calf Raises
200 x 7
200 x 7
200 x 7
200 x 7

Legpress
500 x 7
500 x 7
500 x 7
500 x 7

Leg ext
140 x 7
140 x 7
140 x 7
140 x 7

Pec Dec
140 x 7
140 x 7
140 x 7

Rotational Deads
60's x 7
60's x 7
60's x 7
60's x 7

Hard workout. Rep range was tough especaially for a Sunday morning.
Did not feel my hams getting sore in the SLDL's done with slightly bent knees - is this common.



Posted by: Scarface30

great lower workout goob you must have been fubared after those Bulgarians.

as for the SLDLs, I have no done them in a while, but it could be common, or it could just be that you are used to them now.



Posted by: goob

^^^Just for curiosity's sake, total weight lifted in that 50 minute period =5140lb. For all you nerds out there......



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
great lower workout goob you must have been fubared after those Bulgarians.

as for the SLDLs, I have no done them in a while, but it could be common, or it could just be that you are used to them now.
Thanks scar. maybe your right, but it has only been one weeks worth. I would ave thought it would have taken another few weeks before getting used to them.

Did you have a sore lower back when you did them?



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Hard workout. Rep range was tough especaially for a Sunday morning.
Did not feel my hams getting sore in the SLDL's done with slightly bent knees - is this common.
A workout like that on a Sunday morning?? Sheesh kebabs mate, thats criminal.

When i used to do SLDL's i wouldn't feel pain in my hams really at all while doing them, leading me to believe they wern't working for me. That feeling proved wholly unjustified the next day, when my glutes and hams felt as if stretching them would make them snap off like a rubber band.

I would expect severe, cramp-inducing DOMS tomorrow if i were you. And no, you should not feel pain in your lower back when doing SLDL's. At all. Which may mean they are too heavy and your back is about to snap like a twig. You could maybe look at dropping the weight on them and doing them off an aerobics step or something, that would be tough



Posted by: JailHouse

Damn goob thats a tuff one there. 140 one the pec deck?! On any kind of DL i rarely feel much in my hams to, I get a lot more feeling in my lower back form them.

are you doing any thing for the game today??



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
A workout like that on a Sunday morning?? Sheesh kebabs mate, thats criminal.

When i used to do SLDL's i wouldn't feel pain in my hams really at all while doing them, leading me to believe they wern't working for me. That feeling proved wholly unjustified the next day, when my glutes and hams felt as if stretching them would make them snap off like a rubber band.

I would expect severe, cramp-inducing DOMS tomorrow if i were you. And no, you should not feel pain in your lower back when doing SLDL's. At all. Which may mean they are too heavy and your back is about to snap like a twig. You could maybe look at dropping the weight on them and doing them off an aerobics step or something, that would be tough
Sunday a.m = bang out of order.

With SLDL's they hit my back pretty bad, so I did wonder if I was doing them right. Back neutral, legs slightly bent, mixed grip. Yeah, I think I had it sorted, so does anyone else get hit hard in the lower back like me?

To follow with Bulgarian's is just plain suicidal. Leg day is by far the hardest day I do.
I had the severe DOMS last time, could barely walk, but I think the Bulgarians had a lot to do with that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JH
Damn goob thats a tuff one there. 140 one the pec deck?! On any kind of DL i rarely feel much in my hams to, I get a lot more feeling in my lower back form them.

are you doing any thing for the game today??
So you get hit pretty bad to in the lower back? This is more conforting, maybe it's just a side effect of the type of lift.

I had'nt planned on doing anything for the game, you?



Posted by: StanUk

Very solid looking workout Goob, especially for a sunday morning!



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by StanUk View Post
Very solid looking workout Goob, especially for a sunday morning!
Thanks Stan! yeah i was close to projectile vomitting, exorcist style after the Bulgarian squats.....



Posted by: Scarface30

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks scar. maybe your right, but it has only been one weeks worth. I would ave thought it would have taken another few weeks before getting used to them.

Did you have a sore lower back when you did them?
if I remember correctly I did have somewhat of a sore lower back for a while, until I got used to them. that's one of the main reasons why I don't like them as much because I find your back get hits harder than normal with SLDLs then something like regular deads or RDLs.



Posted by: JailHouse

ya some times i get it bad in the lower back. I might have a few people over and get fucked up hopefully lol.



Posted by: StanUk

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks Stan! yeah i was close to projectile vomitting, exorcist style after the Bulgarian squats.....
lol, all for a good cause though



Posted by: the other half

i guess im not a nerd cause i dont want to know the total weight. no really.
when i do the sldl, on the way down i just try to push your butt out alittle bit and you will feel them in the hammies more, or you can try them with a plate under your heels.



Posted by: JailHouse

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Thanks Stan! yeah i was close to projectile vomitting, exorcist style after the Bulgarian squats.....
LMAO that would be funny.



Posted by: SamEaston

I reckon you'll have a pretty good idea when you wake up exactly where those SLDL's got you



Posted by: tallcall

That's my definition of determination. Waking up early on Sunday morning to kill yourself just so you can really feel it the next day!



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
if I remember correctly I did have somewhat of a sore lower back for a while, until I got used to them. that's one of the main reasons why I don't like them as much because I find your back get hits harder than normal with SLDLs then something like regular deads or RDLs.
Think I'm going to switch to RDL's to see how that works out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan
lol, all for a good cause though
So it seems. Dose'nt feel like a good cause when you come out feeling like your racked with ricketts.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by JH
ya some times i get it bad in the lower back. I might have a few people over and get fucked up hopefully lol.
Ok, at least it looks like I'm not alone with this back thing. Yeah, did you get fucktarded then JH? Enjoy the game?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OH
i guess im not a nerd cause i dont want to know the total weight. no really.
when i do the sldl, on the way down i just try to push your butt out alittle bit and you will feel them in the hammies more, or you can try them with a plate under your heels.
I'll take that into account. I was looking at the numbers and for some reason wondered how much it added up to. Just so I know that I have an alternate career as a bulldozer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam

I reckon you'll have a pretty good idea when you wake up exactly where those SLDL's got you
Yup - The lower back. Hams are fine, no probs at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TC
That's my definition of determination. Waking up early on Sunday morning to kill yourself just so you can really feel it the next day!
It also meant a severe lack of alcohol and substance abuse.......



Posted by: SamEaston

No hamstring DOMS at all?

I would maybe try what OH said then and stick your butt out a bit more. You're not dead flexible are you?



Posted by: tallcall

Yeah, my hamstrings usually just feel really wobbly for a day or two. Have you done Straight Leg Deadlifts off a raised platform? I do them off of a raised step and keep my knees only slightly bent. I def feel it all up and down my posterior chain!



Posted by: Gazhole

Goobster!

Whats shakin' ?



Posted by: Brutus_G

Fuckin giants!



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
No hamstring DOMS at all?

I would maybe try what OH said then and stick your butt out a bit more. You're not dead flexible are you?
Negative mistress Sam. Only lower back, but not as bad as last time, I'm going to switch to RDL's to see what happens.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TC
Yeah, my hamstrings usually just feel really wobbly for a day or two. Have you done Straight Leg Deadlifts off a raised platform? I do them off of a raised step and keep my knees only slightly bent. I def feel it all up and down my posterior chain!
TC on a platform:

No wonder he can lift so much.
Not yet anyway, wait til I get better at them before trying that madness.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaz
Goobster!

Whats shakin' ?
Just my 15" cock. It's like a giant flacid wrecking ball to any midets or toddlers walking past....


Quote:
Originally Posted by B
Fuckin giant!
See above post....



Posted by: goob

DB Press
75 x 6
75 x 6
75 x 6
75 x 6
75 x 6

WG Chins
6
6
6
CG
6
6

DB Rows bi-lat
45's x 6
45's x 6
45's x 6
45's x 6
45's x 6

T-Bars
160 x 6
160 x 6
160 x 6
165 x 6
165 x 6

Dips
BW + 32.5 x 6
BW + 32.5 x 6
BW + 32.5 x 6
BW + 32.5 x 5
BW + 32.5 x 4

Shrugs
200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

BB Curls
75 x 6
75 x 6
75 x 6
70 x 6
70 x 6

This was always going to be the hard week, and it was. What's worst is that this is generally the easiest day, it's a one way rollercoaster into the gates of hell from here......



Posted by: tallcall

Just like in Dante's Inferno:
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate", or "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"

Dante's Inferno on Wikipedia



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Just my 15" cock. It's like a giant flacid wrecking ball to any midets or toddlers walking past....




Posted by: goob

Quote: