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How about those Yankees!


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Posted by: min0 lee

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Great pics, min0. I know a couple of Red Sox fans who will be delighted to receive them.

I may regret posting those....I hope not.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

I thought the ghosts were killed when the Sox won the 04 WS?

Eh, wtf do I know?

BTW, where the hell are all the other Sox fans around here? You run and hide when things are getting tough? COME IN HERE AND TAKE IT LIKE A MAN.



Posted by: IainDaniel

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Just 1 game in the loss column now.

Next up for NY, a tough 4 game set at home against Toronto. Hopefully, the Jays have shot their wad for a while. Boston at Tampa for 3.
Yanks always give the Jays a tough battle. But the Jays are at home. Hopefully they ding off A-rod a few more times



Posted by: soxmuscle

I'm not hiding, just have been super busy with school.

Average offense, little depth, best pitching staff in baseball, good bullpen.

We are what we are.



Posted by: soxmuscle

How quickly Yankee fans forget:


^^^
You're 2000 World Series Champion New York Yankees.



Posted by: fyredup1286

One and a half games back...........



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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I thought the ghosts were killed when the Sox won the 04 WS?

Eh, wtf do I know?

BTW, where the hell are all the other Sox fans around here? You run and hide when things are getting tough? COME IN HERE AND TAKE IT LIKE A MAN.
I'm here. Can't believe the season has unfolded the way it has. I'd love to win the division for once, but at least if we don't, the magic number to get in is 3. I sure as hell don't like seeing the Yankees with this much momentum. Hopefully Toronto will do to them what they did to us.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon View Post
I thought the ghosts were killed when the Sox won the 04 WS?

Eh, wtf do I know?

BTW, where the hell are all the other Sox fans around here? You run and hide when things are getting tough? COME IN HERE AND TAKE IT LIKE A MAN.
That never happened.



Posted by: IainDaniel

a little promise for the yanks.

wells done for the season

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Posted by: min0 lee

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a little promise for the yanks.

wells done for the season

The Official Site of The Toronto Blue Jays: News: Toronto Blue Jays News
You mean a present.
Now can your pitcher throw some batting practice?

Watch the Yanks not take advantage.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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I'm here. Can't believe the season has unfolded the way it has. I'd love to win the division for once, but at least if we don't, the magic number to get in is 3. I sure as hell don't like seeing the Yankees with this much momentum. Hopefully Toronto will do to them what they did to us.
I agree. While it would suck to blow the division lead and finish 2nd, the difference between now and the 1978 collapse is that the 1978 choke knocked the Sox out of playoff contention. We'll still get in this year. Of course, frothing Yankee fans fail to realize this.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Have the Mets been watching the Red Sox?



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Unlike the Sox, if the Mets choke they are out.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I'm not hiding, just have been super busy with school.
I figured as much. You don't seem like the type to disappear when your team isn't going well.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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How quickly Yankee fans forget:
I remember that quite well. As the Yankees were getting drilled that last week of the season, I wondered if they would even win a single playoff game. Unfounded fears, as it turned out.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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While it would suck to blow the division lead and finish 2nd, the difference between now and the 1978 collapse is that the 1978 choke knocked the Sox out of playoff contention. We'll still get in this year. Of course, frothing Yankee fans fail to realize this.
I realize this, which is why I was hoping Detroit would stay close by winning against Cleveland. I think the Sox magic number to qualify for the playoffs is 3.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Unlike the Sox, if the Mets choke they are out.
It depends on how badly they choke and what happens out west. If they lose just enough to let Philly take 1st, both Arizona and San Diego will need to win a majority of their remaining games.

SD finishes with 4 at Milwaukee, who might still have incentive to win.



Posted by: IainDaniel

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It depends on how badly they choke and what happens out west. If they lose just enough to let Philly take 1st, both Arizona and San Diego will need to win a majority of their remaining games.

SD finishes with 4 at Milwaukee, who might still have incentive to win.
Both Arizona and SD have better records then the Mets right now. So if the Mets continue to lose they will have a tough chance of holding that wild card.



Posted by: ANCAM

I really do hope for a Yankees vs. Red Sox ALCS...the Yankees need some 2004 redemption and REALLY bring back those ghosts!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Aces going tonight. Halladay vs Wang and Beckett vs Kazmir. Tonight is Tampa's best chance to steal a victory.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Aces going tonight. Halladay vs Wang and Beckett vs Kazmir. Tonight is Tampa's best chance to steal a victory.
Beckett going for #20 tonight. I was so focused on the Sox just winning a damn game that I hadn't even noticed.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Jeebus, quite a 9th inning rally the Yanks have going here.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Tough break for Halladay. Pitches a great game, then a 2 out error in the 9th ruins his whole night.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Beckett vs Kazmir. Tonight is Tampa's best chance to steal a victory.
So much for that hope. Maybe Francona will let Gagne pitch the 9th?



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Tough break for Halladay. Pitches a great game, then a 2 out error in the 9th ruins his whole night.
Yeah, you're crying for Halladay.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Yeah, you're crying for Halladay.
Not in the least. I'm glad it happened. I was just stating a fact.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Boy is Toronto having fun playing spoiler or what?



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Boy is Toronto having fun playing spoiler or what?
That they are. I'll bet Iain is loving it.

Yankees came up one hit short from pulling that one out.

Oh well. They've just got to start a new winning streak today and hope for a little help from Tampa. Oakland? Minnesota?



Posted by: IainDaniel

The last few starts Halliday has had a tough break with blown games through the Bullpen. The Jays give NY a a good run, they just don't have the finish like them.

If the Jays can get there bats going next year, and avoid the injury bug like they did this year, there is atleast hope.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

The Sox could really use a Jays victory today.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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The Sox could really use a Jays victory today.
Possible break for NY, with Burnett being scratched from today's game.

From Yahoo sports:
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A.J. Burnett was replaced by rookie Jesse Litsch as the Toronto Blue Jays' starting pitcher for Monday's series finale against the New York Yankees.

"Burnett had to go home for personal reasons," Blue Jays manager John Gibbons said about 2 1/2 hours before the game was scheduled to start.




Posted by: IainDaniel

Don't be doubting Jesse he has had some Solid performances.

but Burnett has been on fire sine he came back from the DL. Kinda sucks.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Good start to the game so far...



Posted by: IainDaniel

Told ya. Good job by the young kids



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Don't be doubting Jesse he has had some Solid performances.


You had to be right for once?



Posted by: I Are Baboon

The Sox clinch the division by going 5-1, and that's if the Yanks go 6-0.

I can see the latter, but not the prior.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Holy hell, the Sox get a GIFT from Tampa!

Good win for the Sox last night. Curt Schilling only throws 80+ pitches, Papelbon throws ONE pitch to bail out Gagne, and Manny and Youkilis were back in action. A good game indeed.



Posted by: soxmuscle

The Red Sox could clinch as soon as tomorrow.

3, ladies and gents.

3!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Holy hell, the Sox get a GIFT from Tampa!
Tampa has played NY tough all year. I think Tampa has as many wins vs NY as Boston does, and there's still 2 more games to go.

Is NY really trying to win the division? They replace Clemens with Igawa and his 6.75 ERA (before the Tampa game), rather than going with Kennedy who has pitched well in all his starts so far. Granted, Igawa did a good job, but Torre couldn't have known that was going to happen before the game was played. Kennedy's last game was Sept 13, so he would have been well rested.

Then with the game on the line, Torre brings in Karsten's with his 10.00+ ERA. It's as if Torre just wanted to get the game over so as to not tire out the other players with a long extra inning game. If they can't win it in 9 (or 10) innings, then just get it over and try again tomorrow.

Finally there is this:

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Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said Clemens could have pitched Tuesday if it had been a must-win game.
It seems to me that every game is a must-win game if they're trying to win the division.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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It seems to me that every game is a must-win game if they're trying to win the division.
They said that during the telecast last night too....that Clemens was feeling tightness in his leg and could have pitched, but they are saving him for the post-season. I'd have no problem with that if I were a Yankee fan, but I'd also want them to make up their minds on whether or not they are trying to win the division.

Conversely, Eric Gange got into trouble last night, so Terry Francona pulled him in the middle of an inning. You don't do that if you are just coasting to the end of the regular season.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Cleveland currently is 3 games better than LA in the loss column (and LA is getting pounded right now, so make it 4), so if the Yankees get the wild card, they'd open against the Indians. If they win the division, they open against LA. Given that LA does very well against NY, it wouldn't surprise me if NY was trying to get a 1st round matchup against the Indians.



Posted by: min0 lee

Torre does some strange things.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Congrats to the Yankee assholes for clinching a playoff spot.



Posted by: soxmuscle

That was quite the celebration for playing second fiddle to the Red Sox all season..

Magic number is 2.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Magic number is 2.
Tonight's looking good for a clincher.

Josh Beckett vs Boof Bonser (Boof???)
Phil Hughes vs Scott Kazmir

It'd be nice to clich today or tomorrow then rest all the regulars the last couple of games.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

So are the METS going to hold on and win their division or what? They could be the first team to blow a 7 game lead with 17 games to play.

Remaining schedules:

Mets: St Louis tonight, then three vs Florida
Philly: Atlanta tonight, then three vs Washington

All home games for both teams.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Congrats to the Yankee assholes for clinching a playoff spot.


Bring on the Indians!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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That was quite the celebration for playing second fiddle to the Red Sox all season..

Magic number is 2.

I think they were celebrating that they would not have to face LA in the first round.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Tonight's looking good for a clincher.

Josh Beckett vs Boof Bonser (Boof???)
Phil Hughes vs Scott Kazmir

It'd be nice to clich today or tomorrow then rest all the regulars the last couple of games.
Do you really think the Sox can't beat Minnesota a couple of games if they rest some regulars? I wonder if the Yankees will field a bunch of call-ups?



Posted by: soxmuscle

I kind of feel like the division was won on Tuesday when the Yanks got walked off the field. 3 game lead with 5 to play is nearly impossible to overcome, both teams would be better off resting their regulars and accepting the fact that the Sox are the AL East Pennant winners and the Yankees are the Wild Card winners.

Either way, we'll see eachother in round deuce.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I kind of feel like the division was won on Tuesday when the Yanks got walked off the field. 3 game lead with 5 to play is nearly impossible to overcome
I felt the same way too, especially considering who the teams were playing. Now if the Yankees were coming into Boston for a 5 game series, perhaps my thinking would be different.

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Either way, we'll see eachother in round deuce.
Given the season series, it should be yet another great battle.



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Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Bring on the Indians!
The Tribe will be tough. You're going to have to face Carmona and Sabathia four times in a five game series.

Carmona: 19-8, 3.06
Sabathia: 18-7, 3.19



Posted by: fyredup1286

Good Win last night...lets keep it goin tonight and through to the WS!



Posted by: min0 lee

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That was quite the celebration for playing second fiddle to the Red Sox all season..

Magic number is 2.
It was well deserved, in mid season everyone left them for dead.

They almost caught up to Boston, almost. If they have played better earlier there's no doubt Boston would be trailing.



Posted by: min0 lee

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So are the METS going to hold on and win their division or what? They could be the first team to blow a 7 game lead with 17 games to play.

Remaining schedules:

Mets: St Louis tonight, then three vs Florida
Philly: Atlanta tonight, then three vs Washington

All home games for both teams.
No freaking pitching.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I think they were celebrating that they would not have to face LA in the first round.
The Angels have the Yankees number, I would be scared too.



Posted by: fyredup1286

They just took two out of three...now we got baltimore nd then its on...



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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They almost caught up to Boston, almost. If they have played better earlier there's no doubt Boston would be trailing.
The division race ain't over yet.

The NL situation is freakin awesome right now. Three games left to play in the regular season and no one's clinched a playoff birth! Should be a fun weekend for baseball.

Anyone who thinks adding the Wild Card team was a bad idea is dumb.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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No freaking pitching.
No hitting either, apparently. How the hell do they get shut down by JOEL PINIERO? Three hits?

Mets fans right now --- >



Posted by: Triple Threat

Are these pennant races being choreographed by MLB?

First we have the Yankees getting to within 1 game of Boston, only to lose to Tampa Bay. Then after NY finally clinches a playoff spot, they face Kazmir with several regulars on the bench resting, only to wind up with a win. All the while, Boston, at home with 20 game winner Beckett on the mound, loses to the pathetic Twins, thus prolonging the clinching of that division.

As IAB said, the NL is rediculous. Three games left and not a single team has clinched anything yet.



Posted by: min0 lee

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No hitting either, apparently. How the hell do they get shut down by JOEL PINIERO? Three hits?

Mets fans right now --- >
I am really disapointed.



Posted by: soxmuscle

How can you not love this, especially as fans of the Red Sox and Yankees getting to sit back and watch the NL teams pound eachother. I might be going to Cinci this weekend for a Cubs game to join in on the fun...



Posted by: shiznit2169

Important game for the Sox tonight. They must win, especially if the Yankees win.

I'd like to see the Cubs, Phillies, Rockies and Arizona get in. I'm tired of the Mets (they'll easily get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs) and the Brewers stink. I chose AZ over SD because SD has been plagued with injuries and their offense sucks.

Redsox
Angels
Indians
Yankees

D-backs
Phillies
Rockies
Cubs

Now THAT would be a good playoff scenario



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Mets are down 2-0 in the first.



Sox are up 2-0 early. Mike Lowell is going to get some MVP votes.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Mets are down 2-0 in the first.



Sox are up 2-0 early. A-Rod is going to get the MVP crown.
Damn Mets.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Sorry, min0.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Mike Lowell is going to get some MVP votes.
He's had a very good year, but he can't touch Arod's numbers.

And I'm not too happy about Ortiz getting hot lately.



Posted by: soxmuscle

And then the magic number was 1...



Posted by: Triple Threat

Fat lady hasn't sung yet.



Posted by: jhawkin1

Cubs= 2007 World Series Champions.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Mariano is secretly a Red Sox fan.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Posted by: Triple Threat

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Mariano is secretly a Red Sox fan.
Un-freakin-believable. I went to bed just after Rivera came on to pitch. I was rather surprised to find out the result when I woke up this morning. I'd ask min0 wtf is going on, but they have more pressing issues in the NL East.

Oh yes, and Mussina pitched another gem.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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I'd ask min0 wtf is going on, but they have more pressing issues in the NL East.
The Mets are done. Now THAT is a remarkable turnaround (wrong direction, of course). I can't even sit here and say the Phils deserve a lot of the credit....the Mets have just GACKED it away!

I feel for Mets fans. I really do.



Posted by: min0 lee

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The Mets are done. Now THAT is a remarkable turnaround (wrong direction, of course). I can't even sit here and say the Phils deserve a lot of the credit....the Mets have just GACKED it away!

I feel for Mets fans. I really do.
Most Red Sox fans of the past know all about this pain.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

ALDS predictions, anyone?

Yankees in 3.
Red Sox in 5.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I say the San Francisco Giants will do it this Year
My nomination for the worst prediction in this thread.



I might just have to go back and see if there are any others.



Posted by: soxmuscle

The Giants had nothing, all year. What a miserable pick.



Posted by: shiznit2169

ALDS Predictions

Redsox in 4
Indians in 5



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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My nomination for the worst prediction in this thread.



Nice find.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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ALDS predictions, anyone?
NY in 4 and Boston in 5, thus setting up the series we all want to see.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Back in April ...

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I'm liking how the AL east is looking right now. Tight race with the Sox on top
You got that one right.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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I can predict now it will be a Bosox Met world series.




Posted by: Triple Threat

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I HATE THE YANKEES. actualy i hate the fans. they are so annoying and never admit that the Mets are better and always make up dumb excuses




Posted by: Triple Threat

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The Yankee's On Sept. 30th 2007 Will Be 13 Games Ahead Of Toronto With Boston Behind. Just Like Last Year.
A one post wonder.



Posted by: min0 lee

North Jersey Media Group providing local news, sports & classifieds for Northern New Jersey!

Wow.

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Joe Torre's 12-year run as manager of the Yankees will likely end if his team does not rally to beat the Cleveland Indians in the AL Division Series, George Steinbrenner told The Record on Saturday night.
"His job is on the line," the Yankees' owner said in a phone interview. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."




Posted by: min0 lee

Yanks won, Torres safe for now.

I don't see them winning 2 straight.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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I don't see them winning 2 straight.
I do. I have little doubt that they will. Assholes.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Mock, yea. Ing, yea. Byrd, yea. Yea, yea.

Paul Byrd, if he's not hitting his spots could get shellacked.

I want to see the Yankees lose, but if the Yankees win tonight, the Yankees will be relying on Clemens/Mussina to pitch game one against the Sox while the Indians would only be able to throw Sabathia on normal rest once in the Series.

Ideal situation: Indians win in five.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Ideal situation: Indians win in five.
I can live with the actual results.



Posted by: Triple Threat

A disappointing end to an up-and-down season.

So who won't be back next year? Clemens? Posada? Rivera? Torre?



Posted by: IainDaniel

A-rod?



Posted by: Triple Threat

A-rod will be back if he wants to stay. The question is, does he?

The others would want to stay, but it will depend on the front office if they return. Although Clemens really should hang them up for good.



Posted by: min0 lee

Torre is gone, Both Posada and Rivera were miffed at the way Bernie was treated, A-Rod goes where his agent tells him to go.
Clemens is gone.



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Posted by: soxmuscle

I do not see A-Rod returning.

The Yankees have made it clear that they won't pursue him if he opts out, if he opts out, he's set to make another record breaking deal (10 years, $30 million).

Why would he return, especially with Posada, Rivera, and Pettite moving on as well? He won't.

There were some calles yesterday on the FAN talking about how the Yankees should trade Jeter. No team would dare pick up that albatross of a contract, but it certainly indicated to me just how much work that Yankee team has to do this offseason.

Should be an interesting one for you guys.



Posted by: shiznit2169

Everyone is saying that the Yankees "dynasty" ended this year. No, it ended in 2000.



Posted by: IainDaniel

12 consecutive years of making the playoffs is still pretty impressive.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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12 consecutive years of making the playoffs is still pretty impressive.
Especially when you consider that all their players are homosexual.



Posted by: oaktownboy

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Especially when you consider that all their players are homosexual.
oh..come on now



Posted by: IainDaniel

Well they are.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

I bet a couple are bi.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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oh..come on now
What's the problem?

I find it odd that Yankee management doesn't allow thier players to have facial hair but they allow locker room fudgepacking.



Posted by: soxmuscle

The Yankees have been a good but flawed team for the last seven years.

The dynasty ended a long time ago, the era however ends when the team is dismantled and thats going to happen this offseason.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Noice



Posted by: min0 lee

I'll take 12 straight years of playoffs over 5 straight last place finishes.



Posted by: min0 lee

How about the D' backs and Rockies, they can even get people to the stadium.

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On Monday, though, more than 12,000 seats were still available for both Games 1 and 2 at Chase Field. The series begins Thursday.




Posted by: min0 lee

A-Rod has until 10 days after the World Series to choose if he stays or signs with someone else, my guess would be the Angels.

Cashman is not going after him but The Boss wants him in NY.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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How about the D' backs and Rockies, they can even get people to the stadium.
I heard about that. What a joke.

Red Sox and Yankee fans can't even get tickets to the regular season, let alone the playoffs.



Posted by: min0 lee

That's one reason I wanted to see the Cub's in it, they waited a long time to see a World Series.



Posted by: min0 lee

7Online.com: Developing Story: Joe Torre may stay with Yankees


Right now you have too many players who have said they will leave if he leaves.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Mino and Triple Threat, do you want Torre to stay or go?



Posted by: min0 lee

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Mino and Triple Threat, do you want Torre to stay or go?
I want him to stay, how can anyone say he was bad.
12 straight years in the playoffs.

If he leaves so will a few of the free agents, it's also been said he attracts a lot of free agents.

Keep him together with this group, once this group retires or leaves via free agency than I can see them going into another direction.

He brought calm into a crazy environment.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Mino and Triple Threat, do you want Torre to stay or go?
Stay, without a doubt, for pretty much the same reasons min0 stated. Give him 3 years, as well as Posada and Rivera. With the addition of the newcomers, let's see if he can get them to the top one more time.



Posted by: min0 lee

Ron Guidry may be gone, word is their minor league pitching coach may replace him. He did a good job with the new kids last year.

I don't want to see him go but if they do get rid of him get that guy Mazzone.



Posted by: IainDaniel

What a slap in the face that contract was to Torre.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

What were the terms



Posted by: IainDaniel

He was getting 5 million, the rest was incentive based on world series performance.

Basically asking him to take a pay cut.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Ouch. MSN had it, but on video and I didn't feel like watching the whole thing.



Posted by: min0 lee

I lost a pinstripe today.
He brought class and dignity to an organization that lost it.



Posted by: min0 lee

The NY media is all over the Yankee brass for getting rid of Joe Torre.

The Boss is now a figurehead.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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The NY media is all over the Yankee brass for getting rid of Joe Torre.
And well they should be. Getting rid can't Torre can't be a plus if they're trying to resign Mo, Jorge, and Arod.



Posted by: min0 lee

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And well they should be. Getting rid can't Torre can't be a plus if they're trying to resign Mo, Jorge, and Arod.
Nope, now watch the organization go into disarray.

I would hate to see Mo and Posada leave but if Arod does leave....oh well.

Money hungry POS.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Do you Yankee fans feel any vibe one way or another what's going to happen with Arod?



Posted by: min0 lee

Fake-Rod may leave.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Just replace him with Mike Lowell



Posted by: min0 lee

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Just replace him with Mike Lowell
Sounds good to me.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Just replace him with Mike Lowell
I don't know if the Red Sox are going to pay him the kind of money he's going to be looking for.



Posted by: min0 lee

I bet they hire Mattingly.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

There is a story on ESPN.com that says he Yankees are prepared to offer A-Rod a contract extension in the area of five years/$150 million.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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There is a story on ESPN.com that says he Yankees are prepared to offer A-Rod a contract extension in the area of five years/$150 million.
And they couldn't come up with a few million more for Torre?



Posted by: min0 lee

They didn't want him, that Levin fag guy.



Posted by: min0 lee

Look for the Yanks to go after Tori Hunter.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I bet they hire Mattingly.
I think Joe Giraldi would be a better pick.
They will sign him!



Posted by: IainDaniel

I heard Giraldi was basically in the bag as the new Bench Boss.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I heard Giraldi was basically in the bag as the new Bench Boss.
He's smart, he's played here, he's not scared of the NY media, he had a decent year as a manager.

Mattingly has never managed and when he deals with the media he seems out of place.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah and if shit hits the fan, then it will be easy to get rid of Giraldi, in comparison to Mattingly.



Posted by: min0 lee

It may also keep a few Yankees on the team, he helped Posada as a catcher and he was both Petite's and Mo's battery mate.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Yeah and if shit hits the fan, then it will be easy to get rid of Giraldi, in comparison to Mattingly.
Mattingly is an Icon here.

I would hate to see someone I admired growing up talking a beating by the media and fans.

I remember when Buddy Harrelson played here in NY, while he wasn't a good hitter he was a decent scrappy fielder.....but when he managed the Mets and they started to lose it became ugly, you don't hear much about him like you used to.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I think Joe Giraldi would be a better pick.
They will sign him!
It happened.



Posted by: min0 lee

Don Mattingly is leaving the Yankees, he is disapointed he didn't get the managers job.



Posted by: IainDaniel

is it on tv?



Posted by: min0 lee

I feel good about this, if theres anyone out there to replace Torre it's him.
He was schooled by Torre.
He may light a fire under these players.
If it happens.


Monday, October 29th 2007, 1:22 PM


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The Yankees have made an official offer to Joe Girardi to become the 32nd manager in the clubs storied history.
The Daily News reported yesterday and today that the Yankees were expected to offer the 43-year-old Girardi the job, and club sources confirmed today that they have told the former Yankee catcher that he is their choice.
No official annoucement will be made by the team until contract terms can be worked out, but Girardi's family was already celebrating today.
"The (Girardi) family is extremely happy for Joe. We're sincerely happy that they both got what they wanted. The Yankees got a young manager and Joe got the position he always truly wanted," said Dr. John Girardi, older brother of Joe and the president and CEO of Poplar Creek Surgical Center in Hoffman Estates, Illinois.
Girardi will have big shoes to fill, following in the footsteps of four-time World Series champ Joe Torre, who turned down the teams one-year contract extension a week-and-a-half ago.
Girardi was never the most talented player in the game, but his grit and hard work made him a successful part of three world championship teams. The Yankees are banking on that same personality and work ethic paying off on the bench.
As The News reported, the Yankees are expected to offer Girardi a three-year deal worth roughly $6 million, less than the salary they paid Joe Torre last season alone. Girardis $2 million annual salary would rank him in the mid-to-upper level among big-league managers.
Girardi was considered a slight underdog when the interview process got underway last week, but he did enough during his meetings with the Steinbrenner family and Brian Cashmans baseball operations department to push himself past Don Mattingly, winning the job that many had felt would go to Donnie Baseball.
Girardi relayed a comprehensive plan on how he would manage the team during his interview, scoring him major points. Unlike Mattingly, who also came armed with ideas on how to run a club, Girardi has actually put his into action before, winning National League Manager of the Year honors in his lone season with the Marlins in 2006.
Cashman and the baseball operations executives believe that the teams nucleus of young pitchers, including Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy, will anchor the club for the next decade. Their development is considered the most important job of the new coaching staff, making Girardis prior managing experience and his career as a catcher very attractive.
Mattingly had been considered the favorite, largely based on his popularity both inside and outside the organization. George Steinbrenner essentially hand-picked him to be Joe Torres successor when he brought him back as a coach in 2004, but with sons Hank and Hal assuming so much authority with the team, Cashman didnt have to worry about upsetting the Boss by not recommending Mattingly for the position.
In addition, a big-name manager such as Mattingly was not a necessity to sell tickets, as the Yankees wont have problems with attendance in the final season at the Stadium and the first year or two of the new ballpark.




Posted by: min0 lee

The Yanks have 3 good young arms...thats good.
At first they have had Giambi..



Posted by: min0 lee

Giraldi is the Manager.
Torre is going to LA with Mattingly as a bench coach.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Andy Pettite opts out of contract to become a free agent.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Andy Pettite opts out of contract to become a free agent.
Andy Pettitte declines player option with Yanks for 2008


He has stated he wants to come back, also unlike with Pay-Rod he the Yankees want Pettite back.....they need his old arm...



Posted by: min0 lee

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"If Andy decides to play, I am confident we can reach an agreement with the Yankees within 24 hours," Hendricks said in his e-mail. "The only options, as Andy has stated, are the Yankees or retirement. He appreciates the Yankees' willingness to give him the time he feels he needs. I do not expect him to make a decision for quite some time."




Posted by: min0 lee

Jorge Posada wants 4-year deal; waits on Yanks, Mets

The Mets want him, Yanks should give him what he wants.
Where can you find a catcher who can hit like him, plus he's a switch hitter.



Posted by: min0 lee

If leave-Rod goes I would think the Yanks should go after Crede.



Posted by: soxmuscle

He had a career year last year. Giving him $13.3 million dollars per year over the next four years would be disastrous, in fact with the way I expect him to decline just about half of the major leagues would find that contract franchise crippling.

The Yankees will suck next year.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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If leave-Rod goes I would think the Yanks should go after Crede.
It's been speculated, but only because it makes some sense.

Crede may be an option, but Lowell, Cabrera, and Beltre are rumored to be the prime suspects.

Who they will give up for the latter two is yet to be determined. You'd have to think 2 of Joba Chamberlain, Phillip Hughes, and Robinson Cano would have to be involved for the Yankees to win the Cabrera trade sweepstakes, which isn't a good deal for them.



Posted by: min0 lee

They don't plan on getting rid of their future.



Posted by: min0 lee

At first I thought he would be a good addition, but reading this article made me think twice.

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As for Lowell, who will be 34(too old) next year and who topped off a career 120-RBI season by winning World Series MVP honors, the Red Sox reluctantly will offer him three years to retain him. (I would rather spend it on Posada) And while the Yankees are certain to be aggressive bidders for him, the righthanded Lowell's home and away stats might be cause for caution. In almost the same number of at-bats, Lowell hit .373 with 14 homers and 73 RBI at Fenway Park as opposed to .276, 7 homers and 47 RBI on the road (that's why the Yankees may first look to a trade for White Sox third baseman Joe Crede).
It's clear his numbers where helped by the green monster, his numbers would drop at Yankee stadium....the left field is a killer for right handers.



Posted by: min0 lee

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The Yankees will suck next year.
I would bet you $20.00 they will contend with Boston next year.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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At first I thought he would be a good addition, but reading this article made me think twice.


It's clear his numbers where helped by the green monster, his numbers would drop at Yankee stadium....the left field is a killer for right handers.
Lowell will be a good addition, only if he comes back to the Red Sox. If he darts, it's because he was blown away with a 4 or 5 year deal, which in all honesty, he doesn't deserve in the least.

Posada also had a career year last year, he's two years older than Lowell, and plays a much more demanding catcher position. You're not hesitant at all in locking up Posada for four years?

If not, Johnny Damon says Hello..



Posted by: soxmuscle

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I would bet you $20.00 they will contend with Boston next year.
Could it be? The first ever IM wager?

I would say yes, but the fact that Schilling, A-Rod, Pettite, Posada, and a plethora of other talent could technically be locked up today, I'm going to hold off until atleast after the Winter Meetings.





Posted by: min0 lee

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Could it be? The first ever IM wager?

I would say yes, but the fact that Schilling, A-Rod, Pettite, Posada, and a plethora of other talent could technically be locked up today, I'm going to hold off until atleast after the Winter Meetings.

OK, I do hear Schilling may sign a 1 year deal with Boston.
It's where he should finish out his career, anywhere else and I would think less of him.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Lowell will be a good addition, only if he comes back to the Red Sox. If he darts, it's because he was blown away with a 4 or 5 year deal, which in all honesty, he doesn't deserve in the least.
I agree.

Posada also had a career year last year, he's two years older than Lowell, and plays a much more demanding catcher position. You're not hesitant at all in locking up Posada for four years?

If not, Johnny Damon says Hello..
4 years is a lot for a catcher, I would sign him for 3 knowing he may only play 2 as a catcher...the third is just to keep him.

Johnny Damon is not that old.....I thought he would slow down next year not his past year.



Posted by: min0 lee

I would try to get Tori Hunter and try to get rid of Damon somehow.



Posted by: min0 lee

Curt Schilling, Red Sox Agree On One-Year Deal

He even took a pay cut. That was classy...



Posted by: min0 lee

Hmm...Sox...you may have a point.
Where are the Marlins not haveing a sale?
November 6, 2007
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The Yankees, maintaining their resolve to move on without Alex Rodriguez, have begun to explore alternative options at third base, general manager Brian Cashman confirmed yesterday.

"It's time to start scoping out all our needs, period," Cashman said at the general managers' meetings. "And third base is one of them. That's not going to develop all that quickly."

That means Joe Crede likely won't replace A-Rod. The White Sox have resolved to deal him soon, and the Yankees are aiming higher than Crede, an official familiar with their thinking said.
Well I guess I was wrong.

The Yankees have targeted free agent Mike Lowell and, as trade possibilities, Seattle's Adrian Belt re and Florida's Miguel Cabrera. St. Louis' Scott Rolen is a dark-horse candidate.

None will come cheaply. Lowell, 33, will cost only money, but his home-road splits in 2007 set off a warning flare. He had a .418 on-base percentage and .575 slugging percentage at Fenway and a .339 on-base percentage and .428 slugging percentage on the road.

I would pass on him.
Beltre, 28, hasn't approached the 2004 numbers (48 homers, .629 slugging percentage) that prompted the Mariners to give him a five-year, $64-million deal, but he hits with some power and fields his position well. He has two years and $24 million left on his deal, although he has a limited no-trade clause that could complicate matters.

Maybe.. his age is a plus.

Cabrera, 24, will be shopped because of the Marlins' need to cut payroll; he could earn $10 million through arbitration in 2008. He possesses massive talent but has concerned the baseball industry by not controlling his weight. Cabrera played for new Yankees manager Joe Girardi with the 2006 Marlins.

Write it in his contract that he has to maintain a certain weight..

Rolen, 32, has been plagued by shoulder problems and hit just eight homers in 112 games. He is owed $36 million through 2010, so the Cardinals would ask for virtually nothing in return.

I was a big fan but I am tired of the Yanks and their old player signing.
The Yankees seem likely to re-sign Mariano Rivera to a three-year, $40-million deal soon.




Posted by: min0 lee

Miguel Tejada could be third option for Yankees



LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. - The Yankees might not be able to lure Mike Lowell from Boston and appear unwilling to pay the price to acquire Miguel Cabrera from Florida, but another name has emerged that could prove to be the most sensible option: Miguel Tejada.



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Jorge Posada agrees to deal; Mariano Rivera talks heat up



Posted by: soxmuscle

It's way too much money, but Posada had the Yankees bent over since day one. Decent signing given the market for catchers and the fact that Sal Fasano would probably be starting if it weren't for this deal...



Posted by: min0 lee

True, I always thought Joe Giraldi was more clutch and a better catcher than Posada but his bat is still valuable and the fact he's a switch hitter even better.



Posted by: soxmuscle

It's just he's 36 and you're going to be paying him a hefty price into his forties... It'll be fine next year most likely, but he'll be useless by the end of this deal.



Posted by: min0 lee

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It's just he's 36 and you're going to be paying him a hefty price into his forties... It'll be fine next year most likely, but he'll be useless by the end of this deal.
I give him 2 1/2 years, if that's what it took to keep him I'm fine with that.
The Yanks can afford it. Now the Damon signing was not a good one, he looks so broken down.



Posted by: layla17

How much was the Damon deal for? I thought for sure they would make a run at Torii Hunter?



Posted by: min0 lee

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How much was the Damon deal for? I thought for sure they would make a run at Torii Hunter?
Not sure, I was to see him come over and lead off but I never cared for his fielding, especially his weak arm.
He really bottomed out.

Now I would like to have Tori in NY.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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How much was the Damon deal for? I thought for sure they would make a run at Torii Hunter?
I think Damon was 4 yr, 52 million.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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It's way too much money, but Posada had the Yankees bent over since day one. Decent signing given the market for catchers and the fact that Sal Fasano would probably be starting if it weren't for this deal...
Yeah, 3 yrs would have been better given his age. Or maybe a 4th yr based on performance over the last 2.

NY needs to start grooming another catcher at the minor league level.



Posted by: layla17

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Not sure, I was to see him come over and lead off but I never cared for his fielding, especially his weak arm.
He really bottomed out.

Now I would like to have Tori in NY.
His arm is awful. He'd be a lot better in left field. I hope the Yanks land Torii Hunter.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Yeah, 3 yrs would have been better given his age. Or maybe a 4th yr based on performance over the last 2.

NY needs to start grooming another catcher at the minor league level.
That's one of the positions the need to have a solid leader.The great Yankee teams have a history of having allstar and very good catchers starting with Bill Dicky to Berra to Howard to Munson and now Posada.Finding a good solid catcher is very hard, in fact I believe Posada played the infield in the minors before his father or some else suggested he become a catcher to help get to the majors quicker.Stanley and giraldi were also pretty decent.



Posted by: IainDaniel

News just keeps getting better for Yanks

ABC News: Jeter the Cheater? May Owe N.Y. Millions

Well there players.



Posted by: Triple Threat

A man was found lying in a New York city street one morning, wearing nothing but stockings, high heels, suspenders, a thong and and a Toronto Blue Jays jersey.

Police removed the shirt to save the man any embarrassment.



Posted by: min0 lee

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A man was found lying in a New York city street one morning, wearing nothing but stockings, high heels, suspenders, a thong and and a Toronto Blue Jays jersey.

Police removed the shirt to save the man any embarrassment.


Triple to the rescue.



Posted by: min0 lee

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News just keeps getting better for Yanks

ABC News: Jeter the Cheater? May Owe N.Y. Millions

Well there players.


Don't mess with Jeter, this will wash away quickly.



Posted by: min0 lee

.....and hopefully Pettite stays for at least one more.
The Yanks need him to lead the new kids, Messina is fading and I don't consider him a leader...Wang was limp agaisnt the Cleveland Steamers...

Mariano Rivera takes 3-year deal for $45 million from Yankees



Posted by: min0 lee

Damn, this team is awesome.


The Yankees have had more MVP Award winners than any other franchise. Here's a look at the 22 Bombers who have won the award:


2007: Alex Rodriguez
2005: Alex Rodriguez
1985: Don Mattingly
1976: Thurman Munson
1963: Elston Howard
1962: Mickey Mantle
1961: Roger Maris
1960: Roger Maris
1957: Mickey Mantle
1956: Mickey Mantle
1955: Yogi Berra
1954: Yogi Berra
1951: Yogi Berra
1950: Phil Rizzuto
1947: Joe DiMaggio
1943: Spud Chandler
1942: Joe Gordon
1941: Joe DiMaggio
1939: Joe DiMaggio
1936: Lou Gehrig
1927: Lou Gehrig
1923: Babe Ruth



Posted by: shiznit2169

That's only because they have the highest payroll to get these big MVP-caliber superstars. Nothing surprising.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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That's only because they have the highest payroll to get these big MVP-caliber superstars. Nothing surprising.
Look again. Most of them were before the players were getting the big bucks.



Posted by: min0 lee

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That's only because they have the highest payroll to get these big MVP-caliber superstars. Nothing surprising.
Wrong!

Look at the list carefully, there is only one player to benefit the high payroll.

I wouldn't about talk high payrolls anymore Shiz, Boston finally stopped it's stingy ways and won.


Ruth-- we got him because the Boston owner wanted to fund a broadway play----HOMO!

Dimaggio, Mantle, Mattingly, Rizzuto, Gehrig, Howard, Munson, Gordan and Chandler were all Farm products.



Maris--Via a trade from Kansas City



Posted by: min0 lee

The majority of these players were home grown!

Why the hate? Give it up, you won 2 World Series in less than 10 years and you may have more...

Move away from the Yankee shadow and be proud, your no longer the underdog, your the new and proud Red sox nation..

Hater.



Posted by: min0 lee

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That's only because they have the highest payroll to get these big MVP-caliber superstars. Nothing surprising.
Dam nit! I'm not done!

The Yankees of the Pre-Boss era were notoriously stingy.

Let me dig up some history notes....





Posted by: IainDaniel

Who cares. Very gay all of them



Posted by: min0 lee

I might add that although the Babe may or may not had a higher salary than the president at the time he also had a better year than the President.

The Babe earned his money. He is Baseball.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Who cares. Very gay all of them
The Yankees use Toronto as toilet tissue.










Posted by: min0 lee

Mother (Boston) and Father (Yankees) are having a spat, stepchild (Blue Jays).....go to your room.



Posted by: min0 lee

Here's a good example.


Mantle Loses Holdout

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Mickey Refused a $17,000 Salary Cut for the 1960 Season
Mickey would accept a salary cut of $2,000, but not more. He made $72,000, not $75,,000 in 1959. The Yankees' offer of $55,000, made Mickey livid.

Mickey Mantle had a terrible season in 1959, batting .285, with 31 home runs, 75 RBIs, and a.517 slugging average. Yankees’ general manager George Weiss wanted to slash Mickey’s $75,000 salary by $15,000. From his home in Dallas, Mantle agreed that his 1959 season “wasn’t so good,” but he felt that the New York Yankees “cut my salary too much.”





Posted by: IainDaniel

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The Yankees use Toronto as toilet tissue.






If we want to go back in history all the time. What happened between 84-93? Who was toilet paper?



Posted by: min0 lee

Well everyone has some down time.

We've just been fortunate to have less downtime than others.



Posted by: min0 lee

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If we want to go back in history all the time. What happened between 84-93? Who was toilet paper?
Those were really pathectic times.

Though not as bad as my Mets from the mid to late 70's and early 80's.



Posted by: shiznit2169



I knew i would see a few Yankees fans getting all defensive. I was joking and was just referring to that bum (A-Rod).

What can i say, i grew up rooting for the Redsox and any team who beats the Yankees. I hate them with a passion. Blame my father for that one. Although, i can understand the other side of the spectrum because everyone outside of New England is developing a hatred toward the Patriots.

If anything Min0, i would enjoy being hated by the country for supporting a winning team. I'm finally experiencing that this year because of the success in all Boston sports (redsox, patriots, celtics, boston college and yes, the revolution).



Posted by: soxmuscle

A-Rod fits the bill of a player who was being purchased, nobody else does becau