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Posted by: Retard69

Hi, everyone.
I am 21 yrs old.
Have been pumpin for 6 months now.
Have zero fat, and my weight is 150lbs or 70Kilograms.
I am on 100mg Testogel a day.

If I start a test-cycle with Dianabol 20-30mgs a day...Will it be effective?
I have ordered 3 months supply.
I train 4 days a week (HARDTRAINING!!)
How will it effect on strenght and muscle/water weight?

And does it make me a hairy animal with low voice??:P

Regards David.

Posted by: BigDyl

Test gives you alot of water weight.......depending on how much bodyfat you have. It aromatizes, so yes, water.

Posted by: Retard69

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Test gives you alot of water weight.......depending on how much bodyfat you have. It aromatizes, so yes, water.

Okey, but will i "Grow"?
And I have NO fat on my body...But i have detailed muscles! But not so mutch volume...:/

Posted by: Retard69

And a 2nd thing:
Can I use Testogel after a cycle?
For keeping a normal testo-level?

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by Retard69

Okey, but will i "Grow"?
And I have NO fat on my body...But i have detailed muscles! But not so mutch volume...:/

if you had zero fat you would be dead son, you oviously have no idea what you are doing and i have taken shits for longer than 6 months

Posted by: Retard69

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Originally Posted by kicka19

if you had zero fat you would be dead son, you oviously have no idea what you are doing and i have taken shits for longer than 6 months

When I said NO fat...I didnt mean 0%
But, I am thin but trained...If you understand!
And i wondere if the dbol could help me gain some volume!!

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by Retard69

When I said NO fat...I didnt mean 0%
But, I am thin but trained...If you understand!
And i wondere if the dbol could help me gain some volume!!

nope, not an ounce at 6 months of training

Posted by: Retard69

Well, there is something thats not right here...
I`ve been using testogel for 5 months now. And I have good results of THAT!! Maybe the hard training, but WHY would not a powerful steroid like Dbol help me grow when i am training 5 days a week! Hardtraining...:/
Btw, i have been training for longer than six months, but it have not been as serious as the last half year.
Here are somme pics:

In negative

Posted by: Yanick

Your internet handle is very fitting.

Posted by: kicka19

five months of gear is moronic and by your pics you have the body of a boy to show for it, good luck being a moron

Posted by: Retard69

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Originally Posted by kicka19

five months of gear is moronic and by your pics you have the body of a boy to show for it, good luck being a moron

Yes, i have a hormone-disease! Wich is why i am on 100mg Testogel daily! I was interessted in the androgen effects of the dbol aswell! But hey, no need to be angry or calling me things! I am ASKING because i really dont know! And your way of discussion is awful!!

Posted by: Pirate!

You can make great progress without extra steroids, which is one reason most wouldn't recommend you use steroids at this point. Do you have primary Hypogonadism?

Posted by: Retard69

Yea, I understand...But i thought maybe this dbol could accelerate things...Because without testogel my DHT and other values are low!
And I have difficulties with gaining weight and muscles!

Posted by: kicka19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retard69

you didnt say you were taking the test due to naturally low levels, that makes sence than that uve been on for 5 months, what does this gel bring your test levels up to?

Posted by: Retard69

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

you didnt say you were taking the test due to naturally low levels, that makes sence than that uve been on for 5 months, what does this gel bring your test levels up to?

Yes, my bad!

But i havent got the last test-results yet...But the first showed that the levels were slightly over normal!
But my body is still small and its hard for me to gain with even hard-training! so therefore i wanted to try a steroid. for the androgen and anabolic effects!

PS: I know i must have a right diet and train right, so i dont do this because "I want to gain faaaast"

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by Retard69

Yes, my bad!

gaining fast isnt a option when it comes to muscle, and by your training it appears you are overtraining, post your diet and training in the coresponding forums

Posted by: Retard69

Okey, i`ll try...

But do you if it will have a good androgen effect on me?
Because of my disease i look like a child...And I am 21 yrs old!

I know this may sound stupid mabey, but doesnt steroids help at all in training? I know 2 guys here that have use steroids and they are not trainingfreaks...But they gained some muscles fast!:S

Posted by: Retard69

Thanks anyway

Posted by: Pirate!

What is your disease? Do you have growth retardation? At this point, my advice is to stick with your prescriptions.

Posted by: Retard69

My disease is from early years...My testicles did not fall down before i was like 14 yrs old! And i didnt notice!

So thats why my testosteron is fucked and make everything in my body weak!
So i have been recommended to use steroids for a while to gain som muscles. Because everything is going slower than normal.
Testogel has low anabolic effect and the androgen effect is not high either!
So i really want to combine steroids with my training and the testogel!

Posted by: Retard69

I want to look like a 21 yrs old man...

Posted by: kicka19

talk to you doctor, are you balls producing test all? one good thing about your disease you wont have to use any pct since your test levels are artificial anyways. did your doc perscribe you hcg at all? idk if they would do this but bb whos ball atrophied use hcg to bring them back and this may help you also

Posted by: Retard69

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

talk to you doctor, are you balls producing test all? one good thing about your disease you wont have to use any pct since your test levels are artificial anyways. did your doc perscribe you hcg at all? idk if they would do this but bb whos ball atrophied use hcg to bring them back and this may help you also

Yes, my test-levels are kind of artificial...
You are writing many things i dont understand...:P
The testogel is for keeping up test-level...But it doesnt bring me forward to 21 yrs old looking...I havent changed mutch!
But do you think that roids may help?

Posted by: ZECH

The doctor will only give you enough to bring your levels to a normal adult level. Thye won't be high enough to do you much good toward bulding muscle(no more so than an average adult male could). You would have to take a much higher dose of an androgen to do that.

Posted by: Retard69

Yea, i know that...But the Dianabol is not from the doctor!

I have a reliable contact! And he is providing thai-dbol...
And he says that it is high androgen and high anabolic, so 15-30mg of Dbol should help or what?

Posted by: kicka19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retard69

Yea, i know that...But the Dianabol is not from the doctor!

I have a reliable contact! And he is providing thai-dbol...
And he says that it is high androgen and high anabolic, so 15-30mg of Dbol should help or what?

it really wont do much in terms of muscle building at those doses, most people take 500mg of test, and another anabolic for 8-12 weeks, 15-30 or dbol isnt gona do much

Posted by: Retard69

I thougt that 30mg pr day was standard Dbol-dose!
Well, i dont know..Thats why Im asking

But do you know if the androgen effect will be noticeable?

Posted by: Retard69

Btw, I`ll read your answere tomorrow!
I am from Norway so the clock is about 4:15 AM now...Time for sleep!

Goodnight to all you bodybuilders out there...I ENVY YOU!!!:P

Posted by: Pirate!

Cryptorchidism until 14 years old will definitely mean you will be on testosterone replacement therapy for life. Steroids will not make you look older. Keep using the testogel at 100 mg a day, and set long term (over a year) goals. Proper diet and exercise will give you what you seek.

If you must use dbol, don't expect to look like a body builder or keep your gains after using it. It is liver toxic, so monitor your liver health and don't use it for more than 6 weeks, followed with at least 6 weeks off.

You need to be prepared for the possibility that you will could get Gynecomastia. You should have plenty of tamoxifen citrate or raloxifene hydrochloride to use in case symptoms pop-up. If you grow tits, you really won't look like a 21 year old man.

Posted by: Retard69

Yea, maybe i have to use testgel for the rest of my life yes...

I dont expect to look like a bodybuilder with dbol...Just looking for a little help! Because I have a diet program and training program that is good..
But should i stop the testogel while im on the Dbol?
And start when im NOT on dbol...Like a PCT?

Posted by: mrmark

At 21 and only 6 months of training, and based on your pics, I wouldn't start messing with extra gear. If test levels are off again, consult your doctor and do what he says... at least until you get some decent muscle on your frame.

Follow the advice of the guys here as they really know their stuff when it comes to gear.

Posted by: kicka19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retard69

Yea, maybe i have to use testgel for the rest of my life yes...

NO, deff stay on your gel, dbol alone wont do much and you will have extremely low levels of natural test when on dbol, if i were you i would not use any gear what so ever due to your condition. If your doc is an open minded guy run it by him but dont go into the convo without any ammunition, read up and know your stuff.

Posted by: Retard69

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

I agree! But I have searched the whole web to get info about Dbol!
And some say its not a smart move..While somebody say that it will help!
So I want to try, and I will stay on my gel while im on the dbol!
And i will keep everyone updated on how it goes...If you guys were in my shoes, you would also atleast try...

So i guess my last question is; How mutch should i start with?
And will the Testogel be good as a PCT?

Posted by: Pirate!

If you stay on the testogel, you won't know pct. You do realize that your nuts will shrink from using steroids, right?

Posted by: ZECH

The dbol is for a very short amount of time due to liver toxicity. You will gain water weight and that would be mostly it. I would not use it. Stay on what you have and maybe more injectable test if you can get it.

Posted by: Retard69

Its very hard here to find good injectable test...
But thanks for all the advice!
Nuts will shrink...But not for ever right?

Posted by: Pirate!

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Nuts will shrink...But not for ever right?

In your case, they may not grow back with out hCG.

Posted by: mrmark

Retard, are you sure you want to pursue this avenue?

I ask this because you do not have much knowledge about hormones/the body, you haven't been training long, and based on your pictures you have a lot more scope to build muscle naturally.

Building muscle takes time and you have a good 4-50 years of heavy lifting ahead of you.

Posted by: Retard69

I know about hormones, but do not know so mutch about steroids!
And the testogel stimulates the hormones(LH), so the testgel should help the aftereffects with dbol?
If I gain just "a little bit" i am satisfied...And if the androgen side of the dbol works it should help some too?

I know that I am not a expert on this matter, but i will give it a try...

Posted by: bland077

bro stay with the gel and give the old gym a chance to work. dbol is a powerful roid and you need to know how to use it. do some home work please i would hate to see you hurt yourself.

Posted by: Retard69

Yea, i get your point! I take no risk...My mom is a doctor!

And I will not jump right in the high doses..I will train as hard as usual, and eat right food...And if i feel that things goes wrong, its right to the doctor and stop the dbol!
Btw, i have been reading allmost the whole web about steroids/dbol...So I know that this is not completly safe!

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