Apparently Personal training is no position for a woman. This weekend the phone rang at my house. I answered. (remember, both my husband and I hold trainer certifications from the same company, issued the same month)

- Hello
- Yes, may I speak with Mr. SheLifts?
- He's outside, can I take a message for him.
- Yes, this is Sexist Asshole, and I recently opened up a new gym
in City, State. and I am looking for trainers to fill some positions. I
got his name from ISSA when I got a list of all personal trainers
in the area. I wanted to see if he was intersted in meeting me
for an interview.
- Let me get your # and I'll pass this message along.

He never called back to ask about me. I would have been on that same list.

Damn him!!!

SO... I see you aren't going to call me back then. O'rly?

You're making assumptions.

You don't really know if your were on the list that he was given. Maybe the list that he was given was already filter by sex, age, or some other criteria.

Maybe he likes to have a certain percentage of male and female trainers, and he'd already filled the female positions.

Maybe he only has one position left and chose your husband over you for any number of valid reasons.

I'm not saying that he wasn't sexist, I'm saying that you're getting worked up on assumptions and not facts.

call me, offer me the position and i'll consider.

Holy shit, I JUST clicked on New Posts. Damn you and fufu are fast.

I got a position I'll offer you...

DOMS, i'm sure there's a reason behind it.

It just aggrivated me. i'm already working in a man's field and I see the descrimination in this field and don't want it to carry over into the fitness department.

We were joking that i should go to cosmetology school to get out of the 'man's world' type jobs.

elaborate....


*wink wink*

i know, i just have to educate myself as much as possible to get the upper hand on some of the other canidates in the field.

i know, i just have to educate myself as much as possible to get the upper hand on some of the other canidates in the field.

He never called back to ask about me. I would have been on that same list.

Damn him!!!

It just aggrivated me. i'm already working in a man's field and I see the descrimination in this field and don't want it to carry over into the fitness department

Maybe he didn't want to hear talk like this in his lockeroom!? -

I would let a female train me if she has a good reputation as a knowledgeable trainer. Hell, I would really like it if she knew her stuff and was fine as hell. I think I would push harder.

DOMS, i'm sure there's a reason behind it.

It just aggrivated me. i'm already working in a man's field and I see the descrimination in this field and don't want it to carry over into the fitness department.

We were joking that i should go to cosmetology school to get out of the 'man's world' type jobs.

ooh Shelifts,..

i think you maaay 've missed the bit where most of these men are waaay over testosteronic from beeing so ... hot and unequaled in a fml nearby and albeit temporaily superior to latent man and for themm to find a womman who can keep up or better them in fitness and.. sweeeatysweetness ( ??) .. turns them on and off like a flickering light globe and it's usually just not worth seeing.

I get that with loads of men. But I uusually train harder than them so it's all lol .. don't worry Iii would rather stay away and thnx for theoffer but elsewhere 'll be juust fine!!!

I once had this undefeated world Muay thai champion who'd opened a multi - discilpine gym reeeally want me to train for hiim .. family health and elite fighters and so forth, ... and he kneeew that we women could cut and that and that he wanted to get rich off it.. but I thought he was sweet on me, and becaause he really diid have one of two best bods I'd ever seen and being ...emotionally predisposed elsewhere, i said no! I hate that. even in martial arts training men just go so godamming hard and goo goo... aand thay get vocal about it :/...( it's like hellloooo .. working / worrrking out here/ not interested!!! ) Especiiially when you can Kick their as*es! ... so hard to find a good shifu .. God , this guy even called me a few mths later ( for what ii believe was a ... n attempt at a date proposal) and pretended he missed dialed !!.. like whytf I was even onn his speed dial still Idnknow nothing wrrong with him .. but .. ya know?? training../.. out in a night club to pick up ..!It's maybe best sometimes ..we just.. leave them with it.

Don't be offended. the better you arre , the harder it is. It's just the nature of the beast. thank god for it and ouch at planning a career you can get to work.. ouch. Someone wiill eventually hire you, for whatevver hermenuetic, if you stick at it and don't open you're own gig first, but plug on Shelifts. Wommen who are able to demonstrate equally and or morre immediately capable can be initimidating to men. Their testosterone is inborn.. ours we work for and it hurts them. ouch to us. ouch to them. .. and how to balance thaat huh??! ..lol. .full empathy here!

Blooming tianshi Lotus.

Yes.

I'd gladly have a woman trainer so long as I didn't have to endure and/or decipher a conversation like this.

I was thinking the same thing. I was trying to read it, but my brain was screaming STOP IT! STOP IT! DON'T MAKE ME TRY TO FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT!

don't worry, I even felt lost.

don't worry, I even felt lost.

How about this and this isnt supposed to be a sexist question...

If you were considering a female trainer to train you, but she wasnt physically fit herself, would that matter? Oh and she has no injuries that would prevent her from having a great physique.

AKIRA, about your question, your own physique is like your personal portable portfolio. It is the first thing that anyone is going to see and judge you on. That's their first sight to give them an automatic opinion if you know your stuff or not.

Also, I'd think the first thing that pops in their head too, is "do I want to look like them?"

Unfortunantly, that is how most people think, but how well do you think a guy with good genetics on steroids could help a hard gainer that doesn't want to juice? Probably not very much. I have seen lots of people with terrible training and diet look like they knew everything, because they looked impressive despite their lack of knowledge.

I care more about reputation than I do looks. If I had the money, I would have a trainer, and I would select one on reputation alone.

No.

You only have 38 posts. No one cares what you think.

You only have 38 posts. No one cares what you think.

Not necessarily true...

"he who shall not be named" had like over 40 thousand posts and no one cared what he thought either

Not necessarily true...

"he who shall not be named" had like over 40 thousand posts and no one cared what he thought either

I wouldnt even say a trainer should look perfect, but at least more in shape than the average person (which is statistcally obese).


On a side note, I noticed a LOT of older female trainers are thin, have some muscle, but NO ass. Kinda odd.

ATG squats baby, they build a nice round ass.

You only have 38 posts. No one cares what you think.

She asked for an opinion. I gave an answer. Does post count matter when someone ask for someones opinion?

ATG squats baby, they build a nice round ass.

in MY opinion, only a female can train a female for proper competition shape. I have had 2 coaches (never a trainer, self taught) Diana Dennis and Jeannie Paparone, both world class IFBB pros. Only a woman is in touch with and knows how a womans body really works. Not only that, our diet is so much different than a mans. Since God made us to carry children, its alot harder for us to cut up.
So in essence, I guess my answer would be "yes"

I don't believe any of that. Jodi helped me with my diet and she is a female I am a male. Jodi has probably helped a lot of men and women with their diets. Knowledge is knowledge.

I am sure Pfunk's principles apply to women men, endomorphs, ectomorphs, and mesomorphs.

There are women with high metabolisms that don't have to diet nearly as hard as a guy that is a natural endomorph.

Sorry, I just think all of that is crap.

lol, hey its all good kiddo. but i was referring to MEN training WOMEN ... FOR COMPETATIVE BODYBUILDING, k?

lol, hey its all good kiddo. but i was referring to MEN training WOMEN ... FOR COMPETATIVE BODYBUILDING, k?

Why wouldn't you want a female trainer?

Male or female, it doesn't matter. I'd want a trainer that can walk the walk.

I don't really have a reason. I just don't think I would want a female personal trainer. Nothing against them. Not saying they're inferior in anyway. Just wouldn't feel right.

Blooming types too much for me to care.

Whats funny is if this were on the other foot..saying only a male should prepare a male for a competition, jodi would be going ape shit.

lol, hey its all good kiddo. but i was referring to MEN training WOMEN ... FOR COMPETATIVE BODYBUILDING, k?

Sorry but I have to disagree.

I know plenty of knowledgeable people that can prepare either sex for competition. If the trainer doesn't realize that there are differences with women's hormones then they have no business being a trainer nevermind a competition trainer!

You better watch yourself. You know how she takes you the wrong way, unless thats the way you like it?

Maybe you would feel INTIMATED? Ive seen alot of female bodybuilders that look better than 85% of the flabby male americans.

Thats an ok preference to me. You may be kinda shy around the opposite sex huh?

in MY opinion, only a female can train a female for proper competition shape. I have had 2 coaches (never a trainer, self taught) Diana Dennis and Jeannie Paparone, both world class IFBB pros. Only a woman is in touch with and knows how a womans body really works. Not only that, our diet is so much different than a mans. Since God made us to carry children, its alot harder for us to cut up.
So in essence, I guess my answer would be "yes"

The bolded statment above is stupid as fucking shit. You either know physiology or you don't. If that statement were true, then women should never see a man doctor or a man surgeon because clearly they don't understand how the female body works.

To doo that they would have to be capable and knowledgable at world class level in evvery single sport and discipline. It's just not realistic. There are lots of people who can guide you to glory in Onne or one set of those though.
..and then provide you with various amounts of information on health and fitness and function in other areas outside that speciality field.
like ii could likely put togther a goood p.t. plan for a large framed adult male bodybuilder.. but honestly.. If I were him.. I 'd maybe want to go someone who was or had already done it to the level i wanted to acheive at ...unless he knew I really couuld get him there .. which I 'm not sure I'd expect him to. . At elite level it's a big ask of faith to just put it anyold one's hands. I say feel freee to be fussy. It's a good thing.

I have trained figure competitors before.

The bolded statment above is stupid as fucking shit. You either know physiology or you don't. If that statement were true, then women should never see a man doctor or a man surgeon because clearly they don't understand how the female body works.


id like to see them. national level? NPC? Natty? id def like to see how u did with them.its more than physiology kiddo. and u never answered me HAVE U EVER BEEN ON STAGE?

Maybe you would feel INTIMATED? Ive seen alot of female bodybuilders that look better than 85% of the flabby male americans.

Since God made us

I have trained figure competitors before.

The bolded statment above is stupid as fucking shit. You either know physiology or you don't. If that statement were true, then women should never see a man doctor or a man surgeon because clearly they don't understand how the female body works.


id like to see them. national level? NPC? Natty? id def like to see how u did with them.its more than physiology kiddo. and u never answered me HAVE U EVER BEEN ON STAGE?

bravo! finally an intellegent comment!!

If that makes me sexist, or ignorant, fine.

Yes it does.

Grrrrr.....

Now bend over....

The fact that I find women distracting in the weight room isn't immature.

Yes it is!! LOL, u are the type that goes to the gym day after day, checks out the women and wonders "why does my body never change?"... get a clue kid

I got kids like you following me aroud at the gym DAILY, lolol. I just keep my visor down, dont make eye contact, keep my headfones on and trudge the road to happy destiny......lol.

gotta love it, lmao

You seem to take personal offense to dummy's opinion. I don't understand why you care. I am not like him in the fact that I don't talk to anyone in the gym, so I wouldn't be distracted in the first place by anyone. I put my Ipod music on, and I go into my own world. Nothing distracts me other than retards who are curling the 45 bar on the squat rack when I am waiting to squat.


On a separate note, you look in-fucking-credible in your gallery photos. You have obviously done a lot of heard work, and it shows.

personal offense? Hell no, I just get sick of the gym pups, and from his statement, he is one.

And on your second note, thanks babe, not bad for a 50yr old woman whos only been lifitn 6 yrs eh??

I LOL'd IRL

Not to be grammar nazi nit-picky here, but it is not possible to have an intelligent post that contains 42,390 grammatical errors.

In real life.

Yes it is!! LOL, u are the type that goes to the gym day after day, checks out the women and wonders "why does my body never change?"... get a clue kid

I got kids like you following me aroud at the gym DAILY, lolol. I just keep my visor down, dont make eye contact, keep my headfones on and trudge the road to happy destiny......lol.

gotta love it, lmao

lol .. saves me blushing anyway.

as far as thiis goes though,

Woudl you mind letting us know what IRL means?

I have trained figure competitors before.

The bolded statment above is stupid as fucking shit. You either know physiology or you don't. If that statement were true, then women should never see a man doctor or a man surgeon because clearly they don't understand how the female body works.




.

Yes it is!! LOL, u are the type that goes to the gym day after day, checks out the women and wonders "why does my body never change?"... get a clue kid

I got kids like you following me aroud at the gym DAILY, lolol. I just keep my visor down, dont make eye contact, keep my headfones on and trudge the road to happy destiny......lol.

gotta love it, lmao

personal offense? Hell no, I just get sick of the gym pups, and from his statement, he is one.

And on your second note, thanks babe, not bad for a 50yr old woman whos only been lifitn 6 yrs eh??

Oh, pardon me........... i wasnt aware i was addressing high school kids. In that case.......well, nm

I can understand and accept your attitude. You make a good point. I am young. I haven't done or been through anything 90% of the people on this board have. I respect the points you made, but they weren't really backed up with any bases in fact. I however am sincere in saying that I have a lot to learn. You've obviously had your experiences, and I have mind. They differ, but I am not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. However, I don't think I am. Like I said from the start I wasn't trying to make a point as to whether a female trainer would be inferior or superior. Just giving my view. But, remember it's the miles not the years.

Bottom line is anyone can train anyone, provided they have had the proper training.

I've met some trainers who had great knowledge but were such arrogant and impatient assholes that no one really wanted anything to do with them.

actually I am super patient.

...

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like me?



lol....actually I am super patient.

I may not be patient about much

I dont think i could EVER BE A TRAINER!! Unless i trained competators only....I cant stand whiners , lol...thats bad huh...

Just have a couple kids, thats a patience builder...






I'm sorry I said such awful, hurtful, things

I dont think i could EVER BE A TRAINER!! Unless i trained competators only....I cant stand whiners , lol...thats bad huh...

If you ever plan to train average individuals... yes. You'd have a short career.

Of course... we should probably clarify what you consider a "whiner" to be?

i fire the whiners. if you don't want to work for yourself, then i don't want to work for you.

i enjoy training athletes....i also like general population clients. it is great when you have someone that is terrible weak and deconditioned and develop them to a level that they can really do some shit. they feel great and you feel great too. rehab can be fun and working with people with specific diseases that really need to (MS, AIDS, etc) can be really great too. But, they have to want to be there.

whatever. -

you could always come out to our facility and train with me.

id never consider training mere mortals, lol

id never consider training mere mortals, lol

id never consider training mere mortals, lol

You were a mere "mortal" at one point, I'm sure. A little humility certainly wouldn't hurt. Seven years ago I walked into a gym 60 pounds overweight and barely able to get through 15 minutes walking on an incline. Now I can run and bike competitively for hours. All it takes is focus and dedication.

I think this comment is going to stir up a lot of trouble.

Most of us here are mere mortals as you put it....just because most of us don't pump up with steroids and lift gazillions of pounds everyday to failure in the gym doesn't mean that training is inferior. In fact, in many cases, is is bodybuilding style training that is inferior.

5 years ago i was over 200 lbs at a sz 21....... i know

HEY HEY.........CHILL......... SORRY if i offended............. its just a term me and my bb crew use to get us pumped.......... i apologize

Damn you're good.

I wrote a novel trying to illustrate this point and you summarized it in one paragraph.

LOL, just ignore the grammatical errors

Just to let you know? I do not appreciate your comment "pump thenselves up with steroids". i can REALLY get into this, but I wont, just saying that I dont diss you for being natural, so dont hate me for being hardcore

And for the record, I didn't mean it as an insult.

But being hardcore doesn't just mean using steroids.

You're not black. It's illegal for you to try and "diss" anyone.

You're not black. It's illegal for you to try and "diss" anyone.

Aparently it does if you use steriods

You're not black. It's illegal for you to try and "diss" anyone.

I think this comment is going to stir up a lot of trouble.

Most of us here are mere mortals as you put it....just because most of us don't pump up with steroids and lift gazillions of pounds everyday to failure in the gym doesn't mean that training is inferior. In fact, in many cases, is is bodybuilding style training that is inferior.

lol, not really but i have had some black in me, doesthat count?

according to who? steroids aren't hardcore they're stupid. especially if you're a woman. hardcore would be working your ass off for it not taking cheap ass short cuts.

according to who? steroids aren't hardcore they're stupid

#1 steroids are essential when competing on a national level
#2 YOURE stupid
#3 Women can still take low androgenic steroids and keep their femininity
#4 If ppl are spending money on AAS, they are usuallly working HARDER in the gym
#5 youre a fuckin dumb bitch

#1 steroids are essential when competing on a national level
#2 YOURE stupid
#3 Women can still take low androgenic steroids and keep their femininity
#4 If ppl are spending money on AAS, they are usuallly working HARDER in the gym
#5 youre a fuckin dumb bitch

That depends, do you love him? And did you use a condom?

you look like shit. i'm 46 and you look 20 years older than me. keep kidding yourself granny.

#2 YOURE stupid

#5 youre a fuckin dumb bitch

#1 steroids are essential when competing on a national level
#2 YOURE stupid
#3 Women can still take low androgenic steroids and keep their femininity
#4 If ppl are spending money on AAS, they are usuallly working HARDER in the gym
#5 youre a fuckin dumb bitch

^^^^^^U WISH
PROVE IT

#1 steroids are essential when competing on a national level
#2 YOURE stupid
#3 Women can still take low androgenic steroids and keep their femininity
#4 If ppl are spending money on AAS, they are usuallly working HARDER in the gym
#5 youre a fuckin dumb bitch

1. Yeah we know which is why you probably won't see us competing on a national level.
2. Your not making any friends here
3. On a national level, you show one woman doesn't have manly features. Trust me, I'm not against steroid use for those that choose but you have to admit that most national level competitors the femininity is suppressed.
4. That is a BULLSHIT comment! Wow, what a load of crap that is. I've worked side by side with these competitors and as a natural, I work just as hard if not harder. IMO, non users work harder because it takes more work to keep the little gains they have.
5. Wrong answer! I gave you an infraction for your insulting. LW is a respected member here and we don't take lightly to people throwing crap at our long time members.

x2

ok, let's all play nice.

It's 4/20

Time for a peace pipe, people.

to me the smaller bb with honest muscle is admirable. a steroid user is a poser period the person that does it with respect for their body and gets their body to respond to their efforts is so different than a person willing to jeopardize their body to have us look at muscle they, frankly, cheated to get. steroid muscle isn't worth looking at. all it proves is that you're NOT hardcore.

LW, you have made a couple of posts implying that using steroids is bad, cheating, etc. I completely disagree. Your knowledge is that of the general public which is gained from the media and the media does not know shit.

Using steroids is part of many pro sports, not just bodybuilding. Athletes that use steroids train just as hard as a natural athletes, in most cases probably harder. Most people don't care for the look of a pro bodybuilder and that is fine, I have a hard time understanding many extreme sports where people risk their health and lives, to each his own, you should not judge.

An IFBB pro bodybuilder that competes 10-15 years (and uses gear) will be better off than an NFL player after a 10-15 year career in most cases.

ok, let's all play nice.

LW, you have made a couple of posts implying that using steroids is bad, cheating, etc. I completely disagree. Your knowledge is that of the general public which is gained from the media and the media does not know shit.

You should give "FemaleMuscle" a lesson in tact.

This is a much more effective arguement than "fucking dumb bitch"

You should give "FemaleMuscle" a lesson in tact.

This is a much more effective arguement than "fucking dumb bitch"