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Posted by: gotda2handplus

Hey, I have been into bodybuilding for about a year now consistently, i am 21 yrs old, 6'0 tall, and 178 lbs. I follow a training schedule with mostly compound exercises and some isolation. I am in iraq right now and am eating a pretty good diet, with protein shakes. I jus purchased a 90 ct bottle of superdrol along with some milk thistle and red rice stuff with cq10 or whatever and i was jus wondering if anybody has advice/tips because i have a buddy who recommended the superdrol to me and he is a personal trainer, and i have another friend thats a personal trainer who is kinda against supplements period, let alone pro-horomones. I jus wanted to get some more inside before i went on with the cycle....


Posted by: NordicNacho

Do you have a serm? Make sure you have everything before you start for some reason it takes longer for stuff to be shipped to iraq then it does to lets say california


Posted by: gotda2handplus

serm?


Posted by: Pirate!

SERM = Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator. Examples are tamoxifen citrate, clomiphene citrate, and toremifene citrate. After the cycle, they help restore the natural testosterone production that was lost during the cycle. Research "Post Cycle Therapy" aka PCT. Don't start a pro-hormone until you are sure you know how to do it responsibly. Good luck!


Posted by: gotda2handplus

so i can buy the pct from anabolic xtreme for after i cycle right? also i was wondering if the superdrol comes up on piss tests?


Posted by: BigDyl

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Originally Posted by gotda2handplus View Post
so i can buy the pct from anabolic xtreme for after i cycle right? also i was wondering if the superdrol comes up on piss tests?
NO.


YES.


Posted by: gotda2handplus

does superdrol have anything already in it to lower estrogen levels? should i get something to lower/block the estrogen levels if it doesnt?


Posted by: NordicNacho

here you go this has everything you need. Sounds like your bored over there.


Superdrol for Dummies

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I have compiled a few commonly asked questions new users ask before getting into superdrol . Please note that this thread is by no means makes you completely knowledgeable. I am not a guru on superdrol and have no hands on experience with this ph so please do not take this as the beacon of knowledge.


I am 18, I have had 4 years plus lifting experience, I feel I’ve reached a plateau and want to use superdrol:
I’ve heard this question over and over and would to prevent all those below 21 who want to use superdrol, or any other ph under the age of 21. This is basically inhibiting your body’s natural production of testosterone. Between the ages of 18 thorough 21, males experience the highest test production. If you feel you want to supplement, I would strongly suggest you look for Test boosters, like tribulus and 6oxo. Please note that this has nothing to do with your lack of so called maturity or the feeling that youngsters are careless. This is scientific and numerous studies have been performed in this regard.

I have just got my superdrol , how do I use it?
The safest way to use superdrol is to keep the dosage low. Start with a low dose and work your way up if you can handle the sides. All over the boards you can find people using superdrol up to high doses of 40mg. I would suggest the following cycle.

Week 1 – 10mg
Week 2 – 20mg
Week 3 - 20mg

I would personally never recommend over 20mg. 3 week cycles are proven to be safe and effective.

What times of the day do I take superdrol?
SD has a low half life, around 6-10 hours therefore make sure you plan your intake every 6-8 hours.
Different people have different opinions to this question. From what I've seen, the over all consensus is to take the first dose in the morning with an empty stomach with loads of water.
The next with your preworkout meal with good fats like EFA's , Flax and fish oils, peanut butter. Superdrol takes a heavy toll on your lipid profile. A carb and fat rich meal would somehow help a little bit here. This is my opinion, others differ with it. Preworkout superdrol gives awesome pumps during the workout/weight training routine.

Does superdrol require a PCT?
Like every ph on the block SD needs a PCT.

Give me a sample superdrol PCT.

wk1: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 3 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk2: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 4 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk4: 20mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 5 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
wk3: 10mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 6 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg


Posted by: NordicNacho

Is 6oxo and Rebound XT good enough by itself for a superdrol PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo or Rebound standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. You need a SERM! Period!

Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an superdrolcycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
You can also use Clomid, some users feel this is good as clomid does a lot of good to your lipid profile.

Sample Clomid PCT

Day 1- 300mg
Week 1- 100mg
Week 2- 75mg
Week 3- 50mg

Clomid has worked excellently for me therefore I stop it in 3 weeks. It takes care of any testicular atrophy that may arise on cycle. Please do not use clomid for prolonged periods of time, it is detrimental.
You can look into combo cycles with both Nolva and Clomid in my PCT thread.

If budget permits you can also look into NAC.

Does running milk thistle along side superdrol inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.

What are other good supplements I can run along side superdrol to combat side effects?
Red Yeast Rice- A fermented rice product, that is our best fighter against negative sides form AAS concerning cardiovascular damage. Comprised of nine different monacolins, which are naturally occurring substances that help regulate cholesterol levels. Along with sterols, and monounsaturated fatty acids, it packs a strong punch.
Dosage : 1.2g ED

COQ10- Although this is abundant in food sources, I feel it prudent to put on here. Not only does it show to help cardiac function, but it’s also imperative to be used with Red Yeast Rice. Can be used in combination with other cholesterol lowering supplements.

Celery Seed- A powerful anti-oxidant, shown to not only lower blood pressure, but may have cancer fighting properties as well. And there is evidence to show its ability in aiding the liver.

Hawthorne Berry: Also very useful to lower BP and keep it on check. A great on cycle supplement.
Dosage 1000mg ed on cycle.

Policosanol- A blend of fatty alcohol’s, shows great promise in its use as beneficial to cardiovascular health, to include the maintenance of healthy lipid profiles. There is also some theory to a synergistic affect with EFA’s.
Dosage : 20mg 2x a day

Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day


Posted by: NordicNacho

Primaforce ProLiver or Liv52.
Sesathin
These supplements are very necessary ON cycle as well as in the PCT.

I took superdrol, its 2 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not superdrol’s fault, there is some mistake on your part.
SD will not work if your lipid profile is all haywire.
Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on superdrol.

My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.

I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t and superdrol. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.

I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s. READ! Most experienced users in their logs mention the brands of nolva they use, if some just had the sense to google them……………

What are the important things I should know about Research Chemicals?

15.2 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate equal 10mg of Tamoxifen (nolvadex)
If a research Liquid manufactuer were unaware of this, and they suspend 10mg of Tamoxifen Citrate in 1 ml of solution and claimed a dosage of 10mg of Tamoxifen/ml then it would be underdosed to the tabs.

Of course if they claimed 10mg of Tamoxifen and added 15.2 grams of Tamoxifen citrate then they would be giving the correct dose of then 10mg of Tamox/ml relative to the tabs.

If they say 10mg of Tamoxifen citrate there not lying about the dose, it's jus not as much as the 10mg tabs of nolvadex.

NOLVADEX_ (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration. NOLVADEX Tablets are available as:

10 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 15.2 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen.

20 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.

So whatz the math?
0.5ml= 7mg tamoxifen
1.0ml=14mg
1.5ml=21mg
2.0ml=28mg
2.5ml=35mg
3.0ml=42mg
3.5ml=49mg
4.0ml=56mg
4.5ml=63mg
5.0ml=70mg

I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.


Posted by: NordicNacho

The superdrol checklist :

Superdrol 10/20/20
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed

PCT:
SERM :Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
AI :R-Xt or 6oxo
Prostrate:Saw Palmetto 325mg

DHEA 200/200/100/100
Fenugreek
Clomid (optional)
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed
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Posted by: NordicNacho

i didn't write it credit goes to krzna.


Posted by: JerseyDevil

NordicNacho I bet you just confused the living hell out of our guy. Great info, and on the money. But my advice would be....

gotda2handplus, ditch the Superdrol for now. One year training under your belt? Not close enough to even consider using androgens. Work hard, eat big... remember food is the best anabolic there is. Listen to trainer number 2. You DO need SERMS and Superdrol is notorious for gyno (yes bitch tit's) well after a cycle is over. The only supplements you should be using is a good multi-vitamin, whey protein powder and maybe creatine. Get your ass back home safe, and then we can talk androgens .


Posted by: gotda2handplus

im very greatful for all the information you guys have been giving me, but here is my situation, i am going home on leave in july, and i have from now until then to look good, i realize i may be a lil impatient but i wondering if taking the superdrol is going to hinder my gains in the future, or if one cycle would be ok? also i would like to know if i do a cycle of superdrol, what are the necessary supplements i am going to need to take during the cycle and right afterwards, i realize i have sort of been given this information already but are all of those absolutely necessary at the same time, what would be an example of what i need during the cycle and afterwards and the dosages of them? i jus want to make sure that if i am going to cycle i do it the right way and listen from guys that have a bit of experience. im sure that i am one of the many that say this but i am trying to get the fastest results possible but i dont want it to affect my gains in the future since i plan on making this a life. also i was kind of confused to the answer i got when i asked if SD would show up on a piss test and whats absolutely necessary for a pct, in other words what supplements would make up a sufficient pct?


Posted by: Pirate!

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whats absolutely necessary for a pct, in other words what supplements would make up a sufficient pct?
Tamoxifen Citrate (aka nolva)


Posted by: jchappj

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Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
The superdrol checklist :



PCT:
SERM :Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
AI :R-Xt or 6oxo
Prostrate:Saw Palmetto 325mg
Do you guys find AI: R-Xt to be a needed addition to the pct? If so, would you use the dose prescribed on the bottle? Also, for the Nolva do you split the initial doses or take them all at once. Tx.


Posted by: louiscrowley

ok I did superdrol but mest up pct didn't take my xt rebound and didn't buy a serm until now, tamoxifen.I know not the smartest guy' It's been three weeks after a 3 week cycle feel fine but nipples are a llitle puffy the next time around is tamoxifen ok to take as an E-blocker while on my cycle of super and how would I take it through my cycle? please help the newbee thanks'


Posted by: jchappj

For my pct I used Nolva as described above, did not use Rebound XT. You might want to start the Nolva now but maybe one of our more knowledgeable members could chime in on that idea...


Posted by: louiscrowley

Thank's for the feed back jchappj,I just like to know were to go from here.


Posted by: rocket3971

Nolvadex is important to take after the superdrol cycle to keep the estrogen levels from going sky high with low testosterone levels since the superdrol will shutdown natural test production completely. Most people dont have to worry about gyno during the cycle because superdrol does not aromatize. Its afterwards that you have to worry. But should you start getting gyno during the cycle, start the nolva at 20mg till the gyno subsides . The military does do steroid testing but its about 2000 piss tests every year. So most piss tests do not include steroid testing. I would know since im in the military myself and while I was on test e, I was tested and everything was fine.



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