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Kidney problems on M1T?


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Posted by: Mags

Hey there guys, I'm into my 4th week of my M1T cycle at 20mg ED.

Last Wednesday, I trained back and when doing T-bar rows (freeweight barbell ones), and on my last heaviest set, I think I picked it up the bar whilst my lower back was a little bowed. I felt a little twinge, not enough to stop me training, but enough to make me have to go lighter on my dumbell rows.

Now my lower back seems to be aching a lot since. However, it doesn't just feel like the usual muscular fatigue I get with deads/squats etc, but rather a slight constant winded feeling like I've been jabbed in the kidneys.

I know it sounds absurd, but is it possible that the lift has twinged them at all, or could it be down to the M1T? I'm recently upped my protein by 30g ED too, but I've never had problems with my protein consumption before.

What do you guys think?

Cheers



Posted by: Pirate!

M1T is notorious for lower back pumps/cramps. I seriously doubt your kidneys are hurt, although I believe M1T does affect hydration. I got blood work soon after an M1T cycle and my BUN was only slightly elevated. It's possible I didn't drink enough water, though. The protein is not a factor.



Posted by: Mags

Cool, I'd read someone else's account of M1T, and they mentioned back cramp. I'm guessing it's the M1T and dehydration, as my mouth and lips don't half dry out at times. I'll do my bit to drink more then.

Secondly, I've got tribulus and Novla as my PCT. Do I start taking them the day I come off the M1T or wait a while? Is it even worht taking the tribulus towards the end of my cycle or will it not have any real affect if my systems already shutdown with M1T still being administrated etc?

Cheers



Posted by: Pirate!

hcg, test, 4-ad, DHEA are the only things I can think of that will raise your test level on cycle. Trib won't help. Save it for pct.



Posted by: Prince

is it a constant pain, and what type of pain is it, sharp, dull, constant?



Posted by: Mags

Cheers Pirate. Do I switch to trib and nolva the day I finish the M1T then or a little after?

As for the pain (well it's not so much pain, rather a constant discomfort), my lower back feels bloated, but it doesn't seem muscular (although it does resemble the extreme fatigue sensation I get from heavy deads etc).

It feels like a I'm constantly winded. Not as in on the floor, as it's more of a subtle feeling. And it's only come about since I trained my back and lifted the T-bar rather carelessly.

I thought it might be a kind've permanent semi-pump if that makes any sense. Every part of me tends to get pumps just from moving at the moment - I've definitely got more overall hardness, (no cock gags) even when resting. I only have to curl up my arm and my biceps are like rocks. Much more so than usual, and this is without even lifting etc.

I didn't know if it was just something similar, but in my lower back.




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