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Chest after triceps . sucked!!!!!


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Posted by: nomass

Ok i worked out triceps hard this morning. I went to do a short chest workout due to time. Figured out I would start a few pounds lighter on the dumbells than I usually do. Come to find out it should have been a FEW MORE pounds lighter. I got the press up about half way and then my tris gave out and down come the DB on to my chest. So I really didnt even get a good chest workout in. Never again will I do a workout that way!!!!!!!


Posted by: MWpro

Too bad you weren't using a barbell, because this is the dumbest thread I've ever read.


Posted by: kinkery

no shit


Posted by: DontStop

I can never train chest and tris together for the same reason though hah
Mind you I've never had a weight fall on me


Posted by: DbLPLatinum89

A lot of people train chest and triceps together, I don't recommend it, but never the less it is done. However, chest first then tri's bro...day 1 stuff.


Posted by: DOMS

Yes, you can train chest and triceps together, but (unless your triceps are really lagging and are your prime focus) the triceps exercises should come after the large compound exercises that the chest takes.


Posted by: nomass

Ever since day one it has been chest first then tris. but today we just focused on tris but felt guilty on not getting in a chest workout. and thought I would do a few sets.


Posted by: Witchblade

Chest first then triceps? No way. What if I want to do dips and military presses before bench pressing?

Train movements, not bodyparts.


Posted by: Uthinkso

I have to agree with Witchblade I purposely have moved into planned movements per day rather than muscle groups. I'm not a body builder so why train like one??? Instead I want to get the most out of each gym session and I have 15 or so excercises that are must do's, so I put them all together and plan my week that way. Its un-orthodox but hell it works for me.

When I did train body parts, I used the rule of thumb to always train the larger body part first.


Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
Chest first then triceps? No way. What if I want to do dips and military presses before bench pressing?

Train movements, not bodyparts.
Triceps play a major role in Benching. Why fatigue them beforehand?


Posted by: Witchblade

If you always do horizontal pressing before vertical pressing you'll get a very unbalanced shoulder girdle.

Anyway, triceps play a major role in overhead pressing. Why fatigue them beforehand?


Posted by: Mista

I been doing bench and tri's. I could lift more if I split them up, but because bench hits tri's, I dont want to use another day on them.


Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
If you always do horizontal pressing before vertical pressing you'll get a very unbalanced shoulder girdle.

Anyway, triceps play a major role in overhead pressing. Why fatigue them beforehand?
You wouldn't. You'd do stuff like benching and pressing before stuff like dips or extensions. Or so I've read on IM (and others places/books) countless times.

Obviously there are exceptions depending on a persons goals, but that's the general rule.


Posted by: Witchblade

First you said you shouldn't do overhead pressing or dips before bench pressing.
Now you say you wouldn't necessarily bench before military pressing, because they are equal but still superior to dips.
I think I lost you.

And still dips don't necessarily go after bench presses. You should mix it up. They're both compound movements and they work the same muscle groups, albeit with a different emphasis.


Posted by: vortrit

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
First you said you shouldn't do overhead pressing or dips before bench pressing.
Now you say you wouldn't necessarily bench before military pressing, because they are equal but still superior to dips.
I think I lost you.

And still dips don't necessarily go after bench presses. You should mix it up. They're both compound movements and they work the same muscle groups, albeit with a different emphasis.
To be honest my best gains have come from mixing up my sets against a lot of peoples advice. I still keep the isolation work for last, of course. Right now my main focus is my tries so if I want to do dips before bench big deal. I will just bench a little less and my chest is already at a good size.


Posted by: P-funk

who the fuck cares if you do dips before you bench? They are both compound exercises....it is not a big deal.


Posted by: Conan

Random: But for some reason dips put alot of strain my elbows, not pleasant.


Posted by: P-funk

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Random: But for some reason dips put alot of strain my elbows, not pleasant.
dips also put a lot of strain on the shoulder. I am not a fan and do not use them.


Posted by: mboylan86

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Originally Posted by MWpro View Post
Too bad you weren't using a barbell, because this is the dumbest thread I've ever read.



Posted by: nomass

Quote:
Originally Posted by MWpro View Post
Too bad you weren't using a barbell, because this is the dumbest thread I've ever read.
Wow MW pro, for being the stupidest thread ever there is alot of discussion on the subject of tris before chest


Posted by: JonnyStead

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Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
who the fuck cares if you do dips before you bench? They are both compound exercises....it is not a big deal.
Presumably its also not a problem if you usually bench horizontally then do verticle presses?


Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by JonnyStead View Post
Presumably its also not a problem if you usually bench horizontally then do verticle presses?
nope. except for the fact that your vertical press may be hindered a little bit from expending energy on your horizontal press. But that goes for any lift that comes second or third or anywhere except first in your workout. That is why it is good to change it up from time to time.


Posted by: JonnyStead

Cool - as I thought - thanks Pfunk



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