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Posted by: dnich

Is the smith machine ok for shrugs or are dumbbell and barbells better?

Posted by: Samo

Dumbells and Barbells all the way, 'keep away from the Smith machine!'

Free weights are always better than any machine, IMO.........Peace.

Posted by: dnich

Ok thanks i appreciate it alot. Have a good day

Posted by: Gazhole

I wouldnt over-do any type of shrugs, but the only thing the Smith is good for is as a coat rack or Supine Rows, lol.

Stick with the free-weights, Samo = 100% correct.

Posted by: Gordo

Shrug Science

Posted by: MeatZatk

I use a hammerstrength shrug machine at my gym. I think it works great, but if it's being used I do DB shrugs.

Posted by: DontStop

I don't like using the smith machine because it is guided. It's ok as far as proper form goes...but I'd rather use a barbell or dumbell. There's none I really prefer. I switch it up between barbell and dumbell

Posted by: Prince

I don't do shrugs anymore but when I did do them I preferred to use a barbell.

Posted by: soxmuscle

I prefer barbell shrugs, even over dumbells. I'll change it up every now and then but nothing beats barbell shrugs for my traps.

Posted by: AKIRA

Honestly, doing shrugs on the smith machine isnt that bad. The movement is up and down, plus its a small movement at that.

Posted by: KelJu

I do barbell shrugs on the squat rack. My traps exploded when I stopped doing dumbbell shrugs, and switched to barbell. I also use straps for shrugs so I can focus on working my traps rather than my grip. For many people, their traps are just going to be stronger than their hands, so it is stupid to not to, in my opinion.

Posted by: AKIRA

Last time I did DB shrugs, I couldnt go heavy cuz of the fatigue I had already gotten from my workout, but I also didnt use straps to give myself a lil bit of grip strength work.

Id like to use straps so I can shrug heavier weight, but with the all the other lifts I do, I wonder if its going to make that much of a difference.

I guess the only sure way around it is to cycle intensity. One week 10-12 reps. Another week, 8-10 reps.

Posted by: ben16v

when doing barbell shrugs do you think bar behind or bar in front is best??

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by ben16v

when doing barbell shrugs do you think bar behind or bar in front is best??

Bar in front. I can't think of a reason to hold the par behind your back other than to prevent the bar from bumping into your balls when you come down with the bar.

Posted by: Witchblade

I've never done traditional shrugs before but I like overhead shrugs and lying shrugs.

Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by KelJu

Bar in front. I can't think of a reason to hold the par behind your back other than to prevent the bar from bumping into your balls when you come down with the bar.

Thats a good enough reason for me!

Plus, traps are a back muscle...so why not put the weight in the back?

Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Plus, traps are a back muscle...so why not put the weight in the back?

Because it's not safe? Similar to Behind The Neck Presses.

Posted by: AKIRA

Never heard of a behind the neck shrug being not safe. The movement is so small. Id register the reason to be too much weight before the position.

Posted by: BoneCrusher

The hazards of the smith are well known. Why not just stick to what works? DB's give more options for how to do a shrug anyway imho.

Posted by: JonnyStead

Personally I shrug with a bar, in front. Its worked for me.

Posted by: Double D

I use a smith machine for mine from time to time. Its not like the machine can mess with form. Like A said its straight up and down.

Posted by: AKIRA

Theres just not enough movement in the shrug itself to put Smith in the shitty category on this one. Kinda sad to only give credit to the Smith on an exercise like this, but...

My eternal suggestion would be to do DB shrugs, BB shrugs, Hise Shrugs...and if theyre all taken up, the Smith Machine.

Hammer Strength makes a machine for them...but I always hated it. I see assholes using the Ground Based Squat Machine for shrugs all the time instead of for legs. Eh..

Posted by: Double D

I normally dont do shrugs unless my traps seem like they are lagging and as of late they are lagging big time! So yeah I have been doing them on the smith.

Posted by: AKIRA

hah! I did them for 2-3 sets of only 10 reps (120lb DBs) and they are actually sore today!

Posted by: Double D

Yep....I did em yesterday and I am sore as shit today.....but I also did heavy ass hypers as well.

Posted by: Samo

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

I've never done traditional shrugs before but I like overhead shrugs and lying shrugs.

Never thought of 'overhead' shrugs before.......Are they any good?

Posted by: DICE

A nice little combo is shrugs behind the back on a smith , followed immediatly with seated rows , but instead of pulling to your stomach, pull to your upper chest and squeeze your .ur upper back/traps super hard.

Posted by: Andy_Massaro

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Originally Posted by 19inchpump

A nice little combo is shrugs behind the back on a smith , followed immediatly with seated rows , but instead of pulling to your stomach, pull to your upper chest and squeeze your .ur upper back/traps super hard.

I've tried this before and used a rope pulley and it was a really good workout

Posted by: Witchblade

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Originally Posted by Samo

Never thought of 'overhead' shrugs before.......Are they any good?

They're infinitely better shoulder health and you work a lot of stabilizing muscles (core included), making it a far more functional exercise. The downside is that they're quite a bitch to properly execute and I think they're a bit less optimal for building mass, but it's an isolation exercise anyway.

Posted by: tallcall

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Originally Posted by Samo

Dumbells and Barbells all the way, 'keep away from the Smith machine!'

Free weights are always better than any machine, IMO.........Peace.

I agree, but if the only thing available is the Smith, then it isn't exactly a bad alternative. Not that my gym is short on equipment, just that the people using the equipment are sometimes in the shallow end of the gene pool. Granted that this is not true in most cases, but there certainly have been days (I'm the new one and I can already say that some of them scare me with the way they lift - injury is knocking).

Posted by: gopro

I like the barbell, dumbbells, the smith, hammer, and even standing calf machine shrugs! They all give a somewhat different feel and do a good job of stimulating the muscle, as the shrugging motion is rather simple.

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