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Where can I get some good over the counter speed.

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Posted by: KelJu

I am suffering from having overworked myself, and I am just tired as shit when I get to the gym. I need some powerful over the counter speed, as my caffeine pills and coffee just aint cutt'en it anymore.

Suggestions anyone?



Posted by: tucker01

I dunno... Rail some Adderal



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
I dunno... Rail some Adderal
I save adderal for all night cramming sessions for exams. I'm looking more for some good ephedrine caffeine stack type product.



Posted by: KelJu

bump



Posted by: bio-chem

maybe just cut back on the caffeine for a while so when you do need it, it works.



Posted by: Triple Threat

I've been using Redline pre-workout.



Posted by: NeilPearson

Try sleep and a couple days off....



Posted by: KelJu

Jesus christ guys, I know I need to take a few days off. I know that I am too dependent on caffiene. But, life isn't that simple, so I need to push myself a little bit longer until fall semester.

My question wasn't can you guys tell me shit I already know. My question is do you guys know of a really powerful OTC energy booster.



Posted by: JasnoE

BSN's no-xplode works good for me and it doesn't taste too bad either



Posted by: zombul

4 caps of lipo 6 {liquid caps}.That should do it.



Posted by: Plateau_Max

Have you stacked with ephedrine? I thought it wouldn't do anything and I would just get a buzz because of the caffiene but I took one pill along with my usual two caffiene pills and I swear I was on FIRE!

I want to buy some more but I'm on the rocks with money and can't bring myself to spend $20 on stims haha.

Take multivitamins and a B complex in the morning, then maybe an hour or so before you get off work take a couple more B complex and stay well hydrated. Then try the ephidrine caffiene stack 15 minutes before you work out.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by Plateau_Max View Post
Have you stacked with ephedrine? I thought it wouldn't do anything and I would just get a buzz because of the caffiene but I took one pill along with my usual two caffiene pills and I swear I was on FIRE!

I want to buy some more but I'm on the rocks with money and can't bring myself to spend $20 on stims haha.

Take multivitamins and a B complex in the morning, then maybe an hour or so before you get off work take a couple more B complex and stay well hydrated. Then try the ephidrine caffiene stack 15 minutes before you work out.
I take twice as much B vitamins as I should already. What sort of stack did yo utake? What were the brands?



Posted by: TaylorsNutrition

Vasopro Ephedrine



Posted by: beschutzer29579

Stimulant X is the best I have found for all day energy since the pre ephedra ban a few years back.



Posted by: FishOrCutBait

Quote Originally Posted by TaylorsNutrition View Post

I liked it. Did a good job for me.



Posted by: fufu

I would just be careful using the stuff and try not to use it for too long a time period. I assume you will only need it through heavy work times, but just be aware of the usage. I don't want you to burn out your sympathetic nervous system and in turn screw with good hormone balance.

That being said. Have you tried anything like green tea? Or rhodoila rosea? Give them a google.



Posted by: Plateau_Max

You know... "Google" is in the dictionary now defined as using the Google search engine to look something up.

Fufu do you drink your Grean Tea from a saucer?



Posted by: fufu

^ funny you say that, I just thinking how the word has become a verb, after I wrote that.

No, I don't drink any green tea. Saucer sounds nice though.



Posted by: soxmuscle

VPX Red Line works well for me, but it does get expensive. I'm with Iain. There is nothing better, well I'm sure coke is better, but... back to my point. I hit a PR on my deadlifts after getting 3 hours of sleep, from an all night binge on adderal. Don't take it, snort it.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Quote Originally Posted by TaylorsNutrition View Post
Why would you need to take somebody's drivers license on file?



Posted by: tucker01

Quote Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
Why would you need to take somebody's drivers license on file?
Cause ephedrine is used to make Meth I believe.



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
Why would you need to take somebody's drivers license on file?
Agreed. I didnt like the sound of it nor did I care enough about ephedra to enter it.

I knwo someone that has some Stimulant X still for sale, so I will buy some from him in a matter of days.

Redline is pretty good, but Endorush is fucking crazy. I think BSN makes it. Kelju, if you can guzzle that shit and be fine afterwards, id say youre tapped out.



Posted by: rmcfar

why are you dragging so much ass?
pull up your panties and get it done, i dont want to try and sound like a hero but i get up at 530 and work 12 hours landscaping then i go to the gym for an hour and a half every night. this is all minus the energy garbage.

man up, son



Posted by: TaylorsNutrition

Quote Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
Why would you need to take somebody's drivers license on file?
Because the sell of all ephedrine is regulated by the DEA now and they require us to have peoples ID's on file that we sell to. And yes, I hate having to do it also because we now have to keep up with around 300 ID's.



Posted by: Hialeahchico

Originally Posted by rmcfar
why are you dragging so much ass?
pull up your panties and get it done, i dont want to try and sound like a hero but i get up at 530 and work 12 hours landscaping then i go to the gym for an hour and a half every night. this is all minus the energy garbage.
man up, son
I also work out at that time and work those kind of hours and must say its possible.........redbull and coffe are my best friends at that time.



Posted by: juggernaut

Quote Originally Posted by TaylorsNutrition View Post
Because the sell of all ephedrine is regulated by the DEA now and they require us to have peoples ID's on file that we sell to. And yes, I hate having to do it also because we now have to keep up with around 300 ID's.
but whats the purpose behind it? The matter of being able to produce meth with it?



Posted by: TaylorsNutrition

Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
but whats the purpose behind it? The matter of being able to produce meth with it?
Yes, one of the key ingredients in it is used to make meth. Once they started regulating the sell of it, "found" meth labs were reduced by up to 75%. Now they just smuggle it in through mexico.



Posted by: juggernaut

Quote Originally Posted by TaylorsNutrition View Post
Yes, one of the key ingredients in it is used to make meth. Once they started regulating the sell of it, "found" meth labs were reduced by up to 75%. Now they just smuggle it in through mexico.
but I can also find it in bronkaid asthma (OTC) medicine. Or is it not the same thing?



Posted by: TaylorsNutrition

Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
but I can also find it in bronkaid asthma (OTC) medicine. Or is it not the same thing?
same stuff



Posted by: juggernaut

so really, all I have to do is claim that I used it for asthma control and continue to just use that? My federation tests for the stuff. Doesn't make sense.



Posted by: beschutzer29579

Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
so really, all I have to do is claim that I used it for asthma control and continue to just use that? My federation tests for the stuff. Doesn't make sense.
You would never get approved for that amount. You can legally buy it in the US you just are not suppose to buy more than I think 48 tabs at a time or more than a few hundred in a year. Even with a valid script, no way a meth cooker will get anyone to believe that he needs 1000 tabs a month for asthma.

The regulations the govt put on ephedrine sucks, but for those of us that use it for personal "reasonable" consumption, will never hit that max allowed.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Cause ephedrine is used to make Meth I believe.
Bingo!

Ephedrine and many cold medicines require a driver's license, and you are limited on the amount you can buy because people are using them to cook meth.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post

That being said. Have you tried anything like green tea? Or rhodoila rosea? Give them a google.

Yeah, I use to eat the packets of green tea. Just bust the bag open, and swallow the tea leaves chasing it with water.

Unfortunately, green tea doesn't have enough kick.



Posted by: juggernaut

holy shit thats nasty. why not use tabs??



Posted by: KentDog

When I need a slight kick before a workout, I take a caffiene pill right after eating my pre-workout meal, but it sounds like you are looking for something stronger. I have heard Redline is good, but as said, it can probably get expensive real fast. Are your eating and sleeping habits ok?



Posted by: juggernaut

REdline is the stuff that makes you shiver right?



Posted by: soxmuscle

RedLine didn't make me shiver, but then again I'm 150 pounds and can drink 30 beers over a 8-10 hour period and still be in remembrance.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote Originally Posted by KentDog View Post
When I need a slight kick before a workout, I take a caffiene pill right after eating my pre-workout meal, but it sounds like you are looking for something stronger. I have heard Redline is good, but as said, it can probably get expensive real fast. Are your eating and sleeping habits ok?
I bought something like redline that is suppose to be just as good, and it works nicely. It cost me $50.00 for a bottle of 60 tabs which I can handle. My eating and sleeping are almost flawless. I take medicine to sleep, so I have been getting in 8-10 hours every night.



Posted by: soxmuscle

What did you buy?



Posted by: emf

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